I think that might already be in their Growth Factor XT product (which I'm thinking about ordering since I sleep like crap...which definitely affects libido).Safed Musli aka Chlorophytum Borivilianum 50% saponins is amazing for libido
I think that might already be in their Growth Factor XT product (which I'm thinking about ordering since I sleep like crap...which definitely affects libido).Safed Musli aka Chlorophytum Borivilianum 50% saponins is amazing for libido
Growth Factor XT is great for improving sleep quality and many people do notice improved libido with it. I think GFXT is one of the most underrated products in our lineup. Another cool thing about it that many people report is very vivid dreams.I think that might already be in their Growth Factor XT product (which I'm thinking about ordering since I sleep like crap...which definitely affects libido).
Maca, ginseng, and mucuna are ones that came to mind for me, specifically to avoid overlap with a lot of test boosters. Something to take on the side to boost your booster, or something.Thank you for the suggestion. We use a great dose of that in our Growth Factor XT product. Would be open to including it in something like that.
A few ingredients that come to mind:
Fadogia (libido)
VASO6 (erection quality)
Cnidium (w/ high osthole content) (Libido/Erection quality)
Tribulus (libido)
Maca (libido)
Horny Goat weed (libido)
Panax Ginseng (libido)
Eurycoma Longifolia (libido)
DHEA (Libido)
Enostim (Erection quality)
Just waiting for the stress and anxiety support product to drop so I can order both at the same time.Growth Factor XT is great for improving sleep quality and many people do notice improved libido with it. I think GFXT is one of the most underrated products in our lineup. Another cool thing about it that many people report is very vivid dreams.
ArjunaI had never heard of that one. I looked it up and no disrespect to the company intended, but I don't see how that product does anything.
In efforts of trying to get a conversation going on this, I'll throw out some ingredients that seem to be popular or well researched for blood pressure control:
Mega Natural BP
Amealpeptide
Hawthorn
Celery Seed
Magnesium
^^^ are just a few that I can think of right off the bat.
Great product but wish it didn't have b6 in it. I have read pyridoxine (b6)Growth Factor XT is great for improving sleep quality and many people do notice improved libido with it. I think GFXT is one of the most underrated products in our lineup. Another cool thing about it that many people report is very vivid dreams.
I would have to look into that if you mean for BP support. If you have any links or data, feel free to share or pm me if you'd rather.Arjuna
Vitamin B6 is necessary for dozens of different chemical reactions and functions in the body. Growth Factor XT is designed to help improve improve sleep quality and recovery and also helps with sex drive, vivid dreams, prolactin control, and more. B6 has been clinically shown to help with the great majority of things that GFXT is designed to do.Great product but wish it didn't have b6 in it. I have read pyridoxine (b6)
will reduce the effectiveness of ldopa in the brain and possible interactions.
Levodopa and pyridoxine Interactions - Drugs.com
A Moderate Drug Interaction exists between levodopa and pyridoxine. View detailed information regarding this drug interaction.www.drugs.com
I haven’t read his links yet, but I believe the primary issue is supposed to be that vitamin B6 will increase the conversion of L-Dopa into dopamine. If you dose B6 alongside, you could potentially increase conversion peripherally instead of specifically in the brain. I have no clue how big of an issue this is or if it even is an issue. Is dopamine problematic when outside of the brain? No idea. I wouldn’t think so.Vitamin B6 is necessary for dozens of different chemical reactions and functions in the body. Growth Factor XT is designed to help improve improve sleep quality and recovery and also helps with sex drive, vivid dreams, prolactin control, and more. B6 has been clinically shown to help with the great majority of things that GFXT is designed to do.
A quick look at the link you posted appears that it isn't so much referring to your body's natural L-Dopa or even supplemental L-Dopa; the way I'm reading that is saying that it may interfere with prescription medication and prescription levodopa is most commonly prescribed for Parkinson's. Replying at almost 1am my time so can look into this more later as well.
Cooper discussed this issue at length back in the day. I’ll try and find the threadsI haven’t read his links yet, but I believe the primary issue is supposed to be that vitamin B6 will increase the conversion of L-Dopa into dopamine. If you dose B6 alongside, you could potentially increase conversion peripherally instead of specifically in the brain. I have no clue how big of an issue this is or if it even is an issue. Is dopamine problematic when outside of the brain? No idea. I wouldn’t think so.
This one?Cooper discussed this issue at length back in the day. I’ll try and find the threads
Here's a post by @Jiigzz (on another forum) more than 5 years ago:I haven’t read his links yet, but I believe the primary issue is supposed to be that vitamin B6 will increase the conversion of L-Dopa into dopamine. If you dose B6 alongside, you could potentially increase conversion peripherally instead of specifically in the brain. I have no clue how big of an issue this is or if it even is an issue. Is dopamine problematic when outside of the brain? No idea. I wouldn’t think so.
Good findHere's a post by @Jiigzz (on another forum) more than 5 years ago:
WRT P5P and L-Dopa
Dissociation of growth hormone and prolactin response to levodopa during pyridoxine administration.
AuthorsDelitala G, et al. Show all Journal
Biomedicine. 1977 Jul;27(6):219-22.
Affiliation
Abstract
500 mg of levodopa was administered orally to 8 normal subjects and induced an increase of growth hormone (GH) and a decrease of prolactin (PRL) secretion. The levodopa-induced GH release was inhibited by an intravenous infusion of pyridoxine; on the contrary, the PRL response to levodopa was enhanced by pyridoxine infusion. This dissociation of GH and PRL responses to levodopa during pyridoxine infusion appears to be mediated by peripheral acceleration of the conversion of levodopa to dopamine. Since dopamine does not penetrate the blood-brain barrier, the enhanced PRL decrease observed during pyridoxine infusion might be explained only on the basis of a mechanism of action exerted by dopamine on extra blood-brain barrier sites.
L-Dopa + B6 = Less GH increase
L-Dopa + B6 = Greater Prolactin decrease.
L-Citrulline + Pine Wood extract[QUOTE="sns8778, post: 6244555, I'm thinking more of something that could be used daily to help with libido and erection quality.
Thanks so much for this!Here's a post by @Jiigzz (on another forum) more than 5 years ago:
WRT P5P and L-Dopa
Dissociation of growth hormone and prolactin response to levodopa during pyridoxine administration.
AuthorsDelitala G, et al. Show all Journal
Biomedicine. 1977 Jul;27(6):219-22.
Affiliation
Abstract
500 mg of levodopa was administered orally to 8 normal subjects and induced an increase of growth hormone (GH) and a decrease of prolactin (PRL) secretion. The levodopa-induced GH release was inhibited by an intravenous infusion of pyridoxine; on the contrary, the PRL response to levodopa was enhanced by pyridoxine infusion. This dissociation of GH and PRL responses to levodopa during pyridoxine infusion appears to be mediated by peripheral acceleration of the conversion of levodopa to dopamine. Since dopamine does not penetrate the blood-brain barrier, the enhanced PRL decrease observed during pyridoxine infusion might be explained only on the basis of a mechanism of action exerted by dopamine on extra blood-brain barrier sites.
L-Dopa + B6 = Less GH increase
L-Dopa + B6 = Greater Prolactin decrease.
As in an acute effect product or more of a daily dose type?On top of asking for Prostate Health and Blood Pressure support product suggestions, another idea I'd like to throw out - would anyone be interested in a product for libido and improved performance? (non-spiked of course). I'm not talking about something like the spiked sex pills, I'm thinking more of something that could be used daily to help with libido and erection quality.
Thinking both ways. Definitely like the idea of of a daily use product to help with libido and erection quality - kind of a be more ready anytime, any place type thing - plus, what difference does it make if you can get it hard better but aren't in the mood to do anything with it?As in an acute effect product or more of a daily dose type?
going to be hard to come up with effective ingredients that aren't already saturated in products...but let me be the 1st to say that if you put out this kind of product I will definitely buy one to try!!!On top of asking for Prostate Health and Blood Pressure support product suggestions, another idea I'd like to throw out - would anyone be interested in a product for libido and improved performance? (non-spiked of course). I'm not talking about something like the spiked sex pills, I'm thinking more of something that could be used daily to help with libido and erection quality.
You and me both lolJust waiting for the stress and anxiety support product to drop so I can order both at the same time.
It expired on the 23rd but since you asked nicely, I just had it updated to extend thru the 30th@sns8778 a bit off topic but the 25% coupon expires tonight correct?
L-Citrulline dosage wise is hard to put in capsule form because it requires such a high dosage. And some of the proposed ingredients taste like a mix between dirt and asphalt so this product would definitely be better for capsule form haha.L-Citrulline + Pine Wood extract
L-Citrulline dosage wise is hard to put in capsule form because it requires such a high dosage. And some of the proposed ingredients taste like a mix between dirt and asphalt so this product would definitely be better for capsule form haha.
The best thing I've ever used that I've noticed a big different in terms of erection quality is using VASO6 on a daily basis.Treatment of erectile dysfunction with pycnogenol and L-arginine - PubMed
Penile erection requires the relaxation of the cavernous smooth muscle, which is triggered by nitric oxide (NO). We investigated the possibility of overcoming erectile dysfunction (ED) by increasing the amounts of endogenous NO. For this purpose, we orally administered Pycnogenol, because it is...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I'd assume anything that effects NO would work in place of, and likely better than L-Arganine.
I'm not worried about if they are or aren't in other products. I want to come up with an effective one that works and isn't spiked.going to be hard to come up with effective ingredients that aren't already saturated in products...but let me be the 1st to say that if you put out this kind of product I will definitely buy one to try!!!
I've never had stomach issues with Cnidium at high osthole content but I've never used it solo. I just wanted to try it solo to see if the effects that people attribute to it really are from that or something else.lg science had psarm...it was high osthole but with a problem-the majority of people who used at recommended dose got bad stomach issues. I liked it myself, but they couldn't sell it because of those issues.....but you are a smart guy-maybe find a way to buffer it?
yeah, I agree I never had issues either....it probably was a different ingredient, just wanted to give you a headsup about psarm.I've never had stomach issues with Cnidium at high osthole content but I've never used it solo. I just wanted to try it solo to see if the effects that people attribute to it really are from that or something else.
Hell yeah appreciate it! Don’t know why I was thinking the 26th but about to order some focus xt. So tempted to get lean edge but doubt I’ll be cutting again any time soon, wish it was out a few months ago hahaIt expired on the 23rd but since you asked nicely, I just had it updated to extend thru the 30th
Hopefully everyone will let others know.
Hell yeah appreciate it! Don’t know why I was thinking the 26th but about to order some focus xt. So tempted to get lean edge but doubt I’ll be cutting again any time soon, wish it was out a few months ago hahaIt expired on the 23rd but since you asked nicely, I just had it updated to extend thru the 30th
Hopefully everyone will let others know.
I would love to see a Daily Testosterone Support formula made by SNS that would not particularly have to be cycled as M-Test does.Thank you for the suggestion. We use a great dose of that in our Growth Factor XT product. Would be open to including it in something like that.
A few ingredients that come to mind:
Fadogia (libido)
VASO6 (erection quality)
Cnidium (w/ high osthole content) (Libido/Erection quality)
Tribulus (libido)
Maca (libido)
Horny Goat weed (libido)
Panax Ginseng (libido)
Eurycoma Longifolia (libido)
DHEA (Libido)
Enostim (Erection quality)
Looks like BigT could use a scoop of FocusXT LOLsorry, I thought I posted this in a different thread. my apologies!!!
Don’t want to derail (and this is a good suggestion), but I see tons of companies with this, some with quality reps so PM me if you do need help finding.On the above note, I would love a good d3+k2 (mk7) stand-alone product as well. Have yet to see one from a company I trust and buying them separate is costly
I’m not sure this is true. I see mk4 in quite a few products and it doesn’t seem super expensive...Not convinced on mk7. Mk4 is we’re the real benefits are but hard to get and expensive to dose.
How did I miss this? Your about to have some money coming your way.It expired on the 23rd but since you asked nicely, I just had it updated to extend thru the 30th
Hopefully everyone will let others know.
Realistically its even useful in a bulk or maintenance just to help with staying lean... and with it being non stim its not like you have to worry about overdoing it in that regard or interactionsHell yeah appreciate it! Don’t know why I was thinking the 26th but about to order some focus xt. So tempted to get lean edge but doubt I’ll be cutting again any time soon, wish it was out a few months ago haha
I would love to see a Daily Testosterone Support formula made by SNS that would not particularly have to be cycled as M-Test does.
Curious as to why you can't use it?Personally id love if horny goat weed was to be left out of the libido product. I cant try/use 90% of the libido products out there because of its inclusion. It must be popular for a reason though, or maybe its just one of those things that is just kind of thought to work since its in every product?
anabolicminds25How did I miss this? Your about to have some money coming your way.
What is the promo code?
Always down for more Primavie.Deleting some of the quoted message for space constraints but wanted to reply to all of your points.
We are looking at doing a test booster under SNS. They key will be making it different enough from M-Test but still being effective. I strongly believe that M-Test is the best natural test booster on the market by far.
The formula I was referencing about Libido was meant to be more for Libido/Erection Quality so just to clarify - we are looking at doing a daily use test booster and would be also open to doing a libido product.
Few notes:
DHEA - great for libido product; wouldn't put it in test booster bc I think people can always use separately and adjust dosage as needed.
VASO6 - great for erection quality in my opinion but it is expensive.
D3 & K2 - I was considering those as a separate supplement.
FruiteX-B - I'm not a fan of this like most people honestly. I'd consider it.
KSM-66 - good for test booster formula; don't think it would fit in the libido one.
Phosphatidylserine - I think it would add a lot to cost without adding benefit to a product like this. It's a good ingredient but I've never seen an effect on libido when taking it and don't think it would do much in the way of increasing test imo.
Bio-Curcumin - we are looking at doing a Curcumin product (but it will not have Bio-Curcumin in it bc I think there are better types out there)
Schizandra - I like at high doses but that creates capsule space issues.
Thank you for your input. Some of the other ingredients I'll look more into. For a daily use test booster, I think that PrimaVie is one of the best and most underrated ingredients out there. It's the tried and true ingredient that people forget about because its not new and fancy, but for me, I'll take results over hype or intrigue.
In the states maybe but not here. The dosage used should be in mg for real benefits. Studies showing 15mg+ per day. Most products would work out expensive at that dose. I believe transdermal k2 and d3 are better than oral too. The improvement to my teeth using mk4 at 15mg a day has been incredible.I’m not sure this is true. I see mk4 in quite a few products and it doesn’t seem super expensive...
You could always just play it safe and get both as plenty of products combine both forms.
Noted! I had seen anecdotally people seemed to like it better for teeth. Didn’t realize the dose though.In the states maybe but not here. The dosage used should be in mg for real benefits. Studies showing 15mg+ per day. Most products would work out expensive at that dose. I believe transdermal k2 and d3 are better than oral too. The improvement to my teeth using mk4 at 15mg a day has been incredible.
There have been multiple discussions going in different threads about the types of products that people would like to see from us as well as things that people would like to see us offer as single ingredients so I wanted to create a thread because we're very open to and interested in hearing peoples ideas.
Please feel free to share any idea for formulas, types of formulas, or single ingredient items that you'd like to see from us.
We look forward to hearing your ideas.
Simple - I break out in hives. Haven't tried in years so maybe ill try a different brand again, but i tried two different brands years ago with the same result.Curious as to why you can't use it?
If the Icariin content is high, it works really well. But it can be pricey for a good extract so many companies just throw it in for name value.
Yep I agree it’s a damn good formula. With my diet though I’d be concerned with having the opposite issue so I’d rather wait and spend the money on Anabolic Effect. Does seem like lean edge will be solid for a recomp though!Realistically its even useful in a bulk or maintenance just to help with staying lean... and with it being non stim its not like you have to worry about overdoing it in that regard or interactions
FADOGIA....it is my favorite libido ingredient, and trust me I've tried plenty.Deleting some of the quoted message for space constraints but wanted to reply to all of your points.
We are looking at doing a test booster under SNS. They key will be making it different enough from M-Test but still being effective. I strongly believe that M-Test is the best natural test booster on the market by far.
The formula I was referencing about Libido was meant to be more for Libido/Erection Quality so just to clarify - we are looking at doing a daily use test booster and would be also open to doing a libido product.
Few notes:
DHEA - great for libido product; wouldn't put it in test booster bc I think people can always use separately and adjust dosage as needed.
VASO6 - great for erection quality in my opinion but it is expensive.
D3 & K2 - I was considering those as a separate supplement.
FruiteX-B - I'm not a fan of this like most people honestly. I'd consider it.
KSM-66 - good for test booster formula; don't think it would fit in the libido one.
Phosphatidylserine - I think it would add a lot to cost without adding benefit to a product like this. It's a good ingredient but I've never seen an effect on libido when taking it and don't think it would do much in the way of increasing test imo.
Bio-Curcumin - we are looking at doing a Curcumin product (but it will not have Bio-Curcumin in it bc I think there are better types out there)
Schizandra - I like at high doses but that creates capsule space issues.
Thank you for your input. Some of the other ingredients I'll look more into. For a daily use test booster, I think that PrimaVie is one of the best and most underrated ingredients out there. It's the tried and true ingredient that people forget about because its not new and fancy, but for me, I'll take results over hype or intrigue.