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Unanswered CEL Anabolic Effect - Natural Anabolic

I don't want to take the fun away by removing any of the guessing processes, the product is tentatively slated to launch not this coming week but the next; and I don't want to run out of ingredient reveals before then. Although, a couple of the remaining ones I think are going to be harder to guess.

Everyone can keep guessing for one or two more is fine.

I was thinking about teasing a new product to keep the fun going but we have so many things coming out, its hard to know where to start ;)
 
sns8778 said:
Due to the number of consecutive correct guesses, we may have to slow down the guessing for a couple days haha. We don’t want to divulge it all quite yet bc of some retailer promotions that are in the works. We’ll keep it going for at least one more though. If we do slow it down, think I should let everyone in on some info about an unteased very exciting different type of product?
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TEASE THEM ALLLLL!
 
Resolve10 said:
I was just going to let it go. 🤷‍♂️

The mighty Syn got any cool ingredient guesses you’d like to see?
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Haha I think I’ll just sit this one out and let SNS do their thing. I have a few ideas though.

ValiantThor08 said:
Depends on what it is being compared against. If there is 2g of a 50:1 extract, it could potentially be the same thing as 1g at 100:1 extract.
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That is a marketing gimmick in the industry that actually means nothing. They don’t specify an extraction and this method could be literally anything (and not anything useful). What people don’t realize is that plant material isn’t important: it’s what it’s extracted for, and where in the plant it comes from (think root, leaf, fruit/ flower, etc). A crude powder of just whole plant material at 100:1 literally means nothing lol. 100:1 of what?
 
Also, I don’t work for SNS anymore, but we did look at the ingredients people are stating other products are using now back in 2014. I still have the research for it lol (besides KME).
 
Synapsin said:
Haha I think I’ll just sit this one out and let SNS do their thing. I have a few ideas though.



That is a marketing gimmick in the industry that actually means nothing. They don’t specify an extraction and this method could be literally anything (and not anything useful). What people don’t realize is that plant material isn’t important: it’s what it’s extracted for, and where in the plant it comes from (think root, leaf, fruit/ flower, etc). A crude powder of just whole plant material at 100:1 literally means nothing lol. 100:1 of what?
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I agree with you there. Extract of whole plant matter means nothing typically.
 
Didn’t mean any disrespect by naming another company’s product here if all this is directed at me lol I was just glad to see the same ingredients being used in addition to knowing there’ll be more on top of it. Plz don’t yell at me.
 
bubbabignuts said:
Didn’t mean any disrespect by naming another company’s product here if all this is directed at me lol I was just glad to see the same ingredients being used in addition to knowing there’ll be more on top of it. Plz don’t yell at me.
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You're good.
 
bubbabignuts said:
Didn’t mean any disrespect by naming another company’s product here if all this is directed at me lol I was just glad to see the same ingredients being used in addition to knowing there’ll be more on top of it. Plz don’t yell at me.
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Nah not yelling homie, it’s all good
 
bubbabignuts said:
Didn’t mean any disrespect by naming another company’s product here if all this is directed at me lol I was just glad to see the same ingredients being used in addition to knowing there’ll be more on top of it. Plz don’t yell at me.
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Nah not yelling homie, it’s all good
 
Resolve10 said:
I was secretly just trying to get you to reveal anything you liked for future products anyways...

Back to CEL though I’m feeling overwhelmed trying to guess haha
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Haha you sneaky trickster. I have a big list of things for future product concepts / ingredients and some of them will be out eventually this year.
 
Resolve10 said:
I was secretly just trying to get you to reveal anything you liked for future products anyways...

Back to CEL though I’m feeling overwhelmed trying to guess haha
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Lucky for you our Stress & Anxiety Support product will be coming out middle of next week haha ;):ROFLMAO:
 
soxbsbll05 said:
They never ruled out laxo, did they? Laxosterone is a branded version...
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We did rule out Laxogenin. And no disrespect to Laxosterone, but if my understanding is correct, that's just like putting a trademark name on an extract, kind of like if you wanted to nickname something soxbsbllsterone - basically, making a cool branded name but it doesn't mean there is any specific extract/data to back it up. Nothing wrong with that at all from a branding perspective. When I said branded versions for this product, I meant ingredients that are branded and have clinical studies backing them :)
 
bubbabignuts said:
Didn’t mean any disrespect by naming another company’s product here if all this is directed at me lol I was just glad to see the same ingredients being used in addition to knowing there’ll be more on top of it. Plz don’t yell at me.
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I don't think any of it had to do with you. My posts didn't. You seemed excited that we were using the ingredients. My reply was meant to be in general with a little emphasis on the post I quoted and replied to.
 
I'm not sure if this has been asked but have their been any trials/tests done with the product yet? Any numbers in terms of average strength or size gains?
 
sns8778 said:
We did rule out Laxogenin. And no disrespect to Laxosterone, but if my understanding is correct, that's just like putting a trademark name on an extract, kind of like if you wanted to nickname something soxbsbllsterone - basically, making a cool branded name but it doesn't mean there is any specific extract/data to back it up. Nothing wrong with that at all from a branding perspective. When I said branded versions for this product, I meant ingredients that are branded and have clinical studies backing them :)
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Fair enough! I’m not a fan of laxogenin so I’m glad it’s ruled out TBH haha
 
sns8778 said:
I do not do the company vs company thing. I worry about what we do, not what other companies do. I've gone out of my way to interact and ask people what ingredients and products that they want to see from us and already addressed very nicely in this thread - are we supposed to not use ingredients just because other companies do, even if they are ingredients that we were considering years before someone else used them?

In 2015, there was a product draft that that we were working on that had Eriobotrya Japonica and Rehmannaie Raddix in it. I had discussed it with several people at the time and a couple of contract manufacturers knew about it as well. We didn't move forward with the project at that time because a couple of the other ingredients that we wanted to use in it we couldn't source an extract that we were happy with at a reasonable price at that time. This was long before anyone was even thinking about KME. When we didn't move forward with it, did any of the people that knew about it say anything to BLR about them? No idea. Do I care? No, not at all. Why? Because they are great ingredients and I was glad that they offered them to people to use. Does that mean that we were never going to use them just because they did? Of course not. The industry would never evolve if that were the case; plus we put a lot of time back then into these ingredients; we were just looking for the perfect formulas to use them in. Note: I seriously doubt that anyone did tell BLR that we were looking into these back then, I think he just realized like we did that they are great ingredients. BUT even if they did, he was well within his rights to use them and I never said a word. (And I told one of the people that was upset about it that I had collaborated with on it to never publicly mention it bc it didn't matter, they were well within their rights to use them).
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sns8778 said:
The reason that the naming part got the reaction from me was for several reasons. One, I go out of my way to never make direct comparisons to other companies products and to avoid conflict. Our goal is to make top quality products at cost effective prices; and my personal interest is in really truly helping people. (I've many times had people tell me that 'I'm too nice for this industry' but that's my real personality). Arguing with or having conflicts with other companies takes time away from what really matters - making great products and helping people. Two, I have pages of ingredient notes on particular ingredient combination years before BLR used them so it sucks to even have it poked at or implied copying something that had been looked at as far back as 2015. (And again, I seriously doubt BLR knew we looked at that; and even if they somehow did, business is business and its fair game bc they were readily available ingredients on supplier lists even that many years ago). Keep in mind when I say that things are on supplier lists, that doesn't mean that as companies that companies can't or don't request different or specialized standardizations, just that the original ingredient(s) are listed. Three, the name for this product was actually derived from the name of the original 2015 draft so that made the comparison even more ironic because the 2015 name for the product that contained those ingredients was Anabolic ___ (I'm leaving the blank because we may still use that name under SNS).
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Quoted my above posts because they are relevant to Synapsin's and emphasized in bold and italics in the one because they are specifically relevant.

Synapsin said:
Also, I don’t work for SNS anymore, but we did look at the ingredients people are stating other products are using now back in 2014. I still have the research for it lol (besides KME).
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I'm so glad you posted this. I mentioned this in earlier posts but didn't want to name you by name because I wasn't sure that it would be alright with you, but now that you have - I'll go on to explain. And you are correct, in my above post, I said 2015 but the idea actually went back to 2014.

Let's go ahead and get this out of the way in that the product will indeed include Rehmannaie Raddix in the formula as well and the credit for that idea does go back to Synapsin many years ago.

Synapsin and I had discussed using Eriobotrya Japonica and Rehmannaie Raddix in a product with other ingredients back in 2014. This project moved forward to the point where it had an actual name; the name was Anabolic ____ (leaving the blank in there because we may still use the name for something else later). The reason the project didn't move forward was because for a couple of the other ingredients in there, we couldn't find the extracts that we wanted and because Synapsin and I are both perfectionists, we both agreed to shelve the project rather than move forward with it being anything less than perfect. Korean Mistletoe wasn't even a thought for anyone back then yet. BLR went on to use Eriobotrya Japonica and Rehmannaie Raddix in Vector which I believe came out in 2018; neither Synapsin nor I said a word because we had shelved the idea but even if we hadn't, they would've still been well within their rights to use whatever combination they saw fit. I actually remember complimenting them at the time that it was a great combination of ingredients because it is. Putting this in context I hope makes sense to why it's kind of ridiculous to say we copied something though that we had in a formulation idea 4 years prior haha.

The idea for Anabolic Effect came around when we kept getting asked for a KME product and the 2 gram dosage seemed like the logical choice based on the majority of the literature. When researching KME, there were several other ingredients that seemed like they would go great with it and the idea became to make the formula into the perfect natural anabolic formula. Then looking back at old notes from the formula years ago that we shelved, it was like hey, those two would go great in this idea - not just because of the KME but because they should turn out to have a very interesting potential synergistic effect with other ingredients in this formula and hence, their inclusion. No one else's product was really thought about or considered during the formulation of the product. Yes, there is an ingredient overlap of a couple of things but our KME dosage is double + there are 4 additional high end ingredients being included so the ideas really don't/didn't seem directly comparable.
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
I'm not sure if this has been asked but have their been any trials/tests done with the product yet? Any numbers in terms of average strength or size gains?
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Post # 123 in the thread; I tried to quote it but it was a reply so the grammar may not have made sense if I did lol.
 
Resolve10 said:
My training ocd likes to start new things at the beginning of the month so this not being available this week stresses me out. 🤷‍♂️
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I totally tried messing with you and was going to post one of the Stress & Anxiety Support banners but it had the ingredients on it - almost messed up there lol :ROFLMAO:
 
aaronuconn said:
Have you posted what the price point will be yet?
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I think the average price you’ll see this will be 49.99 or so. Hopefully everyone will be very pleased with that considering that many products at that price point only have a fraction of the ingredients that Anabolic Effect will contain.

There may be some intro or pre-sales from certain retailers; I’ll post more info as it’s confirmed.

I also like the idea of possibly doing some stack deals w this and M-Test. As soon as it arrives my personal stack will be Anabolic Effect, M-Test, Lean Edge, & Epi-Plex.
 
sns8778 said:
I think the average price you’ll see this will be 49.99 or so. Hopefully everyone will be very pleased with that considering that many products at that price point only have a fraction of the ingredients that Anabolic Effect will contain.

There may be some intro or pre-sales from certain retailers; I’ll post more info as it’s confirmed.

I also like the idea of possibly doing some stack deals w this and M-Test. As soon as it arrives my personal stack will be Anabolic Effect, M-Test, Lean Edge, & Epi-Plex.
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Wouldn’t you rather run it solo the first time to see what it offers alone?
Also can we have a recap of the ingredients that have been confirmed to save me going through 37 pages? Cheers
 
My guesses;

Paederia Foetida
Cistanche Deserticola
Gentiana Lutea


And yes these are ingredients that are in another product that became a cult favourite before dropping off and coming back without the effects from the first run.
 
DEVANS89 said:
My guesses;

Paederia Foetida
Cistanche Deserticola
Gentiana Lutea


And yes these are ingredients that are in another product that became a cult favourite before dropping off and coming back without the effects from the first run.
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Yes I agree - Magnitropin - did not do it for me..

Not read all postings

- Peak APT - one of the ingredients?
 
DEVANS89 said:
My guesses;

Paederia Foetida
Cistanche Deserticola
Gentiana Lutea


And yes these are ingredients that are in another product that became a cult favourite before dropping off and coming back without the effects from the first run.
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I think it was confirmed no Cistanche.

I guessed Gentian and he said no
 
so is it coming this week? wanna order Mtest and Lean Edge , would be nice to get all of it at once .
 
malin said:
so is it coming this week? wanna order Mtest and Lean Edge , would be nice to get all of it at once .
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Date not confirmed. Probably won’t be until it’s fully ready. They don’t like not living up to promises, and with the number of things which could cause delay, they won’t give an official release day.
 
Not sure if it has been mentioned? Is this something you recommend running indefinitely? Or recommended Cycle lengths?
 
Not sure if it has been mentioned? Is this something you recommend running indefinitely? Or recommended Cycle lengths?
 
Resolve10 said:
I was just going to suggest Robuvit in the other thread...

Does Astragin help improve absorption of these types? I was thinking more of Bioperine, since it’s branded, but would rather guess more exciting ingredients haha
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Not sure on the astragin. Good question

Bioperine makes sense
 
solidsnake said:
Wouldn’t you rather run it solo the first time to see what it offers alone?
Also can we have a recap of the ingredients that have been confirmed to save me going through 37 pages? Cheers
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I use M-Test pretty much consistently (long story; medical condition, bloodwork greatly improved on it; dr instructs to not come off bc of bloodwork being better) and I’ve already been running Lean Edge. So it’s not really starting it all; it was adding it to my existing stack.
 
malin said:
so is it coming this week? wanna order Mtest and Lean Edge , would be nice to get all of it at once .
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Jeremyk1 said:
Date not confirmed. Probably won’t be until it’s fully ready. They don’t like not living up to promises, and with the number of things which could cause delay, they won’t give an official release day.
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That’s exactly correct. We don’t like giving dates ultimately we are 100% sure bc of the # if possible delays that can happen. Tentatively, we are hoping for the beginning of not this week but the next.
 
Resolve10 said:
I was just going to suggest Robuvit in the other thread...

Does Astragin help improve absorption of these types? I was thinking more of Bioperine, since it’s branded, but would rather guess more exciting ingredients haha
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Astragin is also branded !
 
DEVANS89 said:
My guesses;

Paederia Foetida
Cistanche Deserticola
Gentiana Lutea


And yes these are ingredients that are in another product that became a cult favourite before dropping off and coming back without the effects from the first run.
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Unfortunately with this industry, when things work great, drop off, and come back without the effects of the first run, that sometimes unfortunately tells you a little bit about the first run lol.
 
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