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the secret to big chest is lowerchest

ironhands said:
Ronnie's chest was literally TWICE as big as Dorian's chest was, I can't believe some of the stupidity I see here, smh
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Have you ever thought about putting effort into actually being correct instead of trying so hard to make yourself correct?
 
ironhands said:
Ronnie's chest was literally TWICE as big as Dorian's chest was, I can't believe some of the stupidity I see here, smh
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Before anyone takes anything this guy says seriously, I invite you to check out his thread on ”natural” bodybuilding. 100 plus pages of stupidity.
 
stock28 said:
Before anyone takes anything this guy says seriously, I invite you to check out his thread on ”natural” bodybuilding. 100 plus pages of stupidity.
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I think lots of the people weighing in here have been active in that thread. Honestly, I think ironhands threads are pretty fun just to see all the crap he pulls out of his ass.
 
ironhands said:
I will ignore the silly comments. The pictures speak for themselves, the difference between a bodybuilder with a huge chest and a bodybuilder with a mediocre or small/lagging chest is the lower chest
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How does you admiring pictures translate to actual balances training protocols?
You’ve got guys with 10 times more training knowledge than you explaining physically why lower chest rarely needs to be emphasized to that degree, and me, who’s not afraid to show a picture of myself at 40 years old, all I have is experience with this, wouldn’t even try to explain in the way that Old Witch did, but I’m happy to show you a chest that is bigger than 80% of the guys here, AND balanced, and I haven’t done a flat press in freaking years. Nor decline movements. Just 3 sets of dips per workout, and maaaaaybe 3 sets decline flyes twice a month.
Go ahead, rip on my physique, I’m a full time student, full time dad and I work 50 hours a week, and I have a pretty decent chest for an old dude. If anything I need to do MORE upper/inner emphasized training as you can see. And on top of that I think it looks unbalanced big on the Lower chest in pic 2 I was thinking of skipping dips every other, pretty much eliminating flat and lower work entirely.
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Matthersby said:
How does you admiring pictures translate to actual balances training protocols?
You’ve got guys with 10 times more training knowledge than you explaining physically why lower chest rarely needs to be emphasized to that degree, and me, who’s not afraid to show a picture of myself at 40 years old, all I have is experience with this, wouldn’t even try to explain in the way that Old Witch did, but I’m happy to show you a chest that is bigger than 80% of the guys here, AND balanced, and I haven’t done a flat press in freaking years. Nor decline movements. Just 3 sets of dips per workout, and maaaaaybe 3 sets decline flyes twice a month.
Go ahead, rip on my physique, I’m a full time student, full time dad and I work 50 hours a week, and I have a pretty decent chest for an old dude. If anything I need to do MORE upper/inner emphasized training as you can see. And on top of that I think it looks unbalanced big on the Lower chest in pic 2 I was thinking of skipping dips every other, pretty much eliminating flat and lower work entirely.
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But damn those abs.
 
Matthersby said:
How does you admiring pictures translate to actual balances training protocols?
You’ve got guys with 10 times more training knowledge than you explaining physically why lower chest rarely needs to be emphasized to that degree, and me, who’s not afraid to show a picture of myself at 40 years old, all I have is experience with this, wouldn’t even try to explain in the way that Old Witch did, but I’m happy to show you a chest that is bigger than 80% of the guys here, AND balanced, and I haven’t done a flat press in freaking years. Nor decline movements. Just 3 sets of dips per workout, and maaaaaybe 3 sets decline flyes twice a month.
Go ahead, rip on my physique, I’m a full time student, full time dad and I work 50 hours a week, and I have a pretty decent chest for an old dude. If anything I need to do MORE upper/inner emphasized training as you can see. And on top of that I think it looks unbalanced big on the Lower chest in pic 2 I was thinking of skipping dips every other, pretty much eliminating flat and lower work entirely.
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You need to get bigger bro, no homo. Your upper chest is good though, I'll give you that, but you need more lower chest to match the chest mass of Arnold
 
ironhands said:
You need to get bigger bro, no homo. Your upper chest is good though, I'll give you that, but you need more lower chest to match the chest mass of Arnold
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I might. But life is more than just being “big”
for me. So much more. I’ve got a lot of responsibilities that I value far more than muscles. But I intend to get bigger either way, I just will continue to grow lower chest without needing to specifically target it.
 
Matthersby said:
I might. But life is more than just being “big”
for me. So much more. I’ve got a lot of responsibilities that I value far more than muscles. But I intend to get bigger either way, I just will continue to grow lower chest without needing to specifically target it.
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You can do it bro, if Arnold can do it, and Lou Ferrigno can do it, you can do it too
 
ironhands said:
You need to get bigger bro, no homo. Your upper chest is good though, I'll give you that, but you need more lower chest to match the chest mass of Arnold
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Are you serious? He looks phenomenal. And you think he “needs” to get bigger? So what if he isn’t as big as Arnold? You’re absurd.
 
ironhands said:
You need to get bigger bro, no homo. Your upper chest is good though, I'll give you that, but you need more lower chest to match the chest mass of Arnold
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You sure are good at handing out advice. Yet, you have shown nothing to back it up other than a crappy quality cell phone picture from 2001. Post up something current and let’s see this huge chest you’ve developed.
 
stock28 said:
You sure are good at handing out advice. Yet, you have shown nothing to back it up other than a crappy quality cell phone picture from 2001. Post up something current and let’s see this huge chest you’ve developed.
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Ain’t gonna happen. There’s just so much more to all this that he doesn’t understand. Genetics, Experience, response to aas, muscle type, body type. He’s about where I was at in 1998. Hard work and decline bench is all one needs to look like a pro. Which of course after decades of learning and trial and error I discovered was ridiculous thinking. Through thousands and thousands of workouts taking note of what worked and what didn’t. Only a ignorant newb would come on here like they made the world’s biggest training discovery and state it as fact across the board. When guys with 4 phds in kinesiology and exercise science aren’t even saying that. So HE’s the guru? No. He’s just a silly 16 year old in a 35 year olds body.

That’s why I’m willing to post pictures of myself in this thread. Not to show off bc we all know we never appreciate how far we’ve come physically, we just want more. But a 40 year old with a lanky 6’3 frame with a pretty well developed chest after gaining 35lbs in 4 months, yet hasn’t done even 1 decline or flat movement???? He can tell me I need to get bigger or work harder all he wants. The proof is in the pictures.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
Are you serious? He looks phenomenal. And you think he “needs” to get bigger? So what if he isn’t as big as Arnold? You’re absurd.
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We all want to be as big as Arnold or Lou Ferrigno or Dorian Yates, it's our nature as bodybuilders, relax
 
ironhands said:
We all want to be as big as Arnold or Lou Ferrigno or Dorian Yates, it's our nature as bodybuilders, relax
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Wow, so you now decide how everyone feels as well? Must be stressful having to make all the rules and decisions for every bodybuilder alive.
 
ironhands said:
I will ignore stupid silly comments, the pictures speak for themselves, pictures can NOT be denied.
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That’s true. And every guy with a nicer looking chest than the other guys in every picture you’ve posted has a larger UPPER CHEST.
 
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Who has the biggest chest? The biggest guy! Look at Paul on the right, flat upper chest, good lower chest. Look at Lou, full upper chest, good lower chest. Looks bigger than Paul’s Chest even if it’s is absolutely dwarfed by his massive latissimus.

Paul Dillet of course being quite famous for not lifting heavy, at all...
 
I actually did some flat barbell bench last night.
Meh.
I love inclining more than 90% of the gym can flat. It’s way coolers
 
Ironhands is about to expose his secrets to developing huge biceps in another thread. Not sure how to post the link to the thread but it’s something about Jesus and arm growth. Pretty amusing thread in itself.
 
Time and time again, I see it, a lack of lower chest development, if you don't have a spotter for the bench press, you can do flat dumbell presses, push yourself to the limit then throw the dumbells to the floor
 
ironhands said:
Time and time again, I see it, a lack of lower chest development, if you don't have a spotter for the bench press, you can do flat dumbell presses, push yourself to the limit then throw the dumbells to the floor
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No! You don’t throw the weights!
I can already picture you, lats flared, mean mugging every guy bigger than you, making earthquakes with your deadlift negative, clapping your hands super-loud with chalk, with a T-shirt scissored up into a man-thong....
🤮
 
Matthersby said:
No! You don’t throw the weights!
I can already picture you, lats flared, mean mugging every guy bigger than you, making earthquakes with your deadlift negative, clapping your hands super-loud with chalk, with a T-shirt scissored up into a man-thong....
🤮
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Don't forget grunting and shouting even when lifting dumbells off the weight rack.
 
ironhands said:
Time and time again, I see it, a lack of lower chest development, if you don't have a spotter for the bench press, you can do flat dumbell presses, push yourself to the limit then throw the dumbells to the floor
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Way to revive a month old thread to say the same thing over again. Good tip.
 
Matthersby said:
No! You don’t throw the weights!
I can already picture you, lats flared, mean mugging every guy bigger than you, making earthquakes with your deadlift negative, clapping your hands super-loud with chalk, with a T-shirt scissored up into a man-thong....
🤮
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Nah, I don't do any of that, i don't try to draw attention to myself in the gym
 
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