hairygrandpa
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7 Days fasting. Zero calories for 168 hours. HGP's short log
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hairygrandpa
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Well, you would have to deliver it with a cruise missile, I'm 6000 miles away.
thebigt
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I even have a bottle I could send you but shipping would be expensive....and no telling how long it would take by mail?
Spurfy
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This advice is beyond worthless, it's actually counter-productive.
Yes, you will speed up the process of muscle loss.
Q: Where do the amino acids to repair the leg muscle damage from HIIT come from?
A: The catabolism of other muscles.
Cortisol elevates on a fast *specifically* to speed the catabolism of fat. Without adequate cortisol, there is fatigue, brain fog, and greatly diminished fat burning. You are not smarter than his DNA.
Yes, you will speed up the process of muscle loss.
Q: Where do the amino acids to repair the leg muscle damage from HIIT come from?
A: The catabolism of other muscles.
Cortisol elevates on a fast *specifically* to speed the catabolism of fat. Without adequate cortisol, there is fatigue, brain fog, and greatly diminished fat burning. You are not smarter than his DNA.
hairygrandpa
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I have a freight forwarder in Miami -but it takes between 2-3 weeks to arrive, having to go through customs and whatnot. It would be late to the party.
Thank you anyway for the offer.
hairygrandpa
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I have T3 laying around... Good -or bad idea?
ValiantThor08
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Ashwagandha is not going to tank cortisol, or hinder fat loss. Too much cortisol and you retain belly fat. Just right amount, you lose belly fat, and you can fall asleep.
hairygrandpa
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Thinking about it, the cruise missile delivery is a good idea. This sh1thole country could need some, as long as it doesn't hit my farm.
thebigt
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I hope they at least have drumsticks there[the icecream kind]...:twisted:
forgive me, like another guy said I have low blood sugar and 3 hours without eating is about my max--I actually have great respect for your giving this a legit shot...props!!!
muscleupcrohn
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Ashwagandha shouldn’t tank cortisol; it’s an adaptogen that improves how your body handles stress. It may help in this time that is stressful on the body, so long as it doesn’t make him too tired, which some people find some ashwagandha may do.
Spurfy
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Even worse idea than trying to lower your cortisol -- you will be burning muscle like it's a bonfire.
Spurfy
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Agree on the KSM, and during a fast it's probably beneficial since it's more likely to raise cortisol on a fast than lower it (since that's what's needed), my point was about cortisol, but I could have worded it better. Except that it also increases fT3, which is undesirable, but I'm betting that during fasting it would not have this effect.
Also was a bit harsh...
hairygrandpa
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Thought so. Thank you.
Spurfy
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1. How do you figure he's going to retain belly fat on zero calories?
2. Cortisol is a *catabolic* hormone, it does not directly cause one to gain fat.
3. Excess cortisol increases appetite -- this is the cause of weight gain.
4. Cortisol prevents the excretion of sodium. This is the cause of abdominal bloating.
5. Cortisol is an incredibly potent fat-burning hormone.
6. Elevated GH levels during fasting prevent excess cortisol levels.
And sorry if my first reply was a bit harsh.
hairygrandpa
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Even though the natives here are called "Indians", no Ashwagandha available. Will write a complain to the Paraguayan authorities. Indians need their Ashwagandha, because cutting all the forests down causes them stress. 
Rocket3015
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Even though the natives here are called "Indians", no Ashwagandha available. Will write a complain to the Paraguayan authorities. Indians need their Ashwagandha, because cutting all the forests down causes them stress.
I'll get Trump on this right away !!
TheSuppGuy
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Just a quick question to you guys, what can one take to lower prolactin levels? Let's say I get higher levels from MK-677, what can I take to hinder it? I am maybe not getting higher levels, but I want to be on the safe side
hairygrandpa
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"Inhibit-P" at the label recommended dosage should work fine for MK-677.
Vit B-6 alone works too. Max daily dosage is 600mg, as I remember, anything more has health risks.
Spurfy
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B6 300 mg, three times daily.
OR
Macuna, standardized extract, total l-dopa per day of 300-500 mg.
OR
Selegiline, 10 mg/day.
Direct dopamine agonists (pramipexole, cabergoline, bromocriptine, etc) are a dirty way to lower PRL and many are cardiotoxic, not to mention that downregulation of DA receptors is a very real possibility. Additionally, both macuna and selegiline are protective of the HPG-axis.
TheSuppGuy
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Haha. Thank you. I did not understand much, and I have not heard about alot of these things. So vitamin b6 at 300mg per day will get me on the safe side? When should I be worried
Spurfy
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300 mg three times per day, for no more than 6 weeks.
When should you be worried? When the IRS decides to audit you.
hairygrandpa
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I would not go over 600mg/d to be safe.
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Look up Inhibit-P, its well priced and has Mucuna and Vit-B6.
Fasted
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Do people know that you can just let your body adapt and that's part of the benefit of fasting? It helps get your metabolism and hormones together and all that stuff that helps you maintain a good physique. I wont continue down this road as I know im in the minority, but I just feel like I have to say that. Putting the pedestal away now...
hairygrandpa
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Wouldn't say you are in the minority. It depends why someone is fasting, I guess. For me its all about lose some stubborn fat (after failing to do so, due to laziness -and/or slow metabolism) -while also upping insulin sensitivity. Others may do it to get rid of the wrinkles on their ballsack.
hairygrandpa
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LOL! True that!
Spurfy
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Toxicity is only seen at long-term high doses. Anything less than 8 weeks will not produce toxicity except with extraordinarily high doses of more than 2-3 grams/day.
All B-vitamins are water soluble and excess is excreted. The problem with long term very high dose B6 is that it can cause *reversible* sensory nerve damage in the periphery.
Spurfy
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The benefits from fasting will occur no matter what you do.
I understand being a fasting purist, I used to be one, but for the overwhelming majority of athletes and others I've coached/trained, anything that makes fasting easier is going to have markedly better adherence. This is especially true for people who maybe aren't as dedicated to the idea of very rapid physique transformation.
hairygrandpa
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Spurfy
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You will also notice by day 4 that your stubborn fat areas are no longer cold to the touch. You'll also probably get hot flushes sporadically from GH surges.
BennyMagoo79
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Awesome willpower HGP!
Rocket3015
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You are a better man than me. Respect !!
hairygrandpa
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Thank you a million, guys!
Nah, not better but more hairy.
hairygrandpa
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Day 3
Before bed, I popped a couple of R-ALA, hoping it will get me into ketosis while sleeping.
Had crazy dreams at night and woke up frequently. My guess is, its due to elevated GH output, felt like on MK-677.
Feeling full of energy. Did in a few minutes a lot of stuff I was reluctant to do in the past, stuff that involves problems/problem solving, that one don't want to be bothered with.
Phone calls to a lazy lawyer, reminding him he owes me something. A call to my dentist, making appointment -and other.
At the moment feeling great -but I'm suspicious. That may change in an instant.
Before bed, I popped a couple of R-ALA, hoping it will get me into ketosis while sleeping.
Had crazy dreams at night and woke up frequently. My guess is, its due to elevated GH output, felt like on MK-677.
Feeling full of energy. Did in a few minutes a lot of stuff I was reluctant to do in the past, stuff that involves problems/problem solving, that one don't want to be bothered with.
Phone calls to a lazy lawyer, reminding him he owes me something. A call to my dentist, making appointment -and other.
At the moment feeling great -but I'm suspicious. That may change in an instant.
Rocket3015
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Nice, You are getting that "To Do List" Done !!
hairygrandpa
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We all can relate to that. For me its hard to follow up on people who still have to pay me -or do something I paid for. I hate this.
People here lack responsibility and discipline, you have to constantly kick their azzes, not funny.
hairygrandpa
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hairygrandpa
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I'm still not depleted of glycogen....
Arms look still thick, should be less swollen...or I'm simply just huge.
Arms look still thick, should be less swollen...or I'm simply just huge.
hairygrandpa
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Belly is noticeable smaller, also boob fat seems to be dwindling and the face got a bit slimmer. Everything else, like the "hip tire" is still there (that little fugger).
Fasted
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No feeling of an electric buzz through your body or extreme relaxation? Hyper focus? Warm fat per spurfy? You gotta be getting close, keep at it! Musta had hella glycogen stores.I'm still not depleted of glycogen....
Arms look still thick, should be less swollen...or I'm simply just huge.
hairygrandpa
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More energy and focus, everything else normal. Feeling a bit cold. My social life is suffering. Can't socialize as it involves either training, food -or booze -or a combination of that.
Rocket3015
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HGP, I appreciate you helping me out with all my questions !!
Codybenz
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You should go to Church. Lots of opportunity for socializing there....
Sorry I couldn’t help myself. Keep up the good work HGP, I’m interested in how this turns out for you.
Codybenz
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hairygrandpa
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Will walk around a church, as low intensity cardio.
Besides, the "body of Christ" in form of a cracker has calories, wine too.You are welcome to follow and see me suffer .
I do it for your sins.... (could not hold it in)Fasted
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You are golden my friend!! Cold hands and a warm belly is where its at! As you fat adapt your body will be able to burn more fat for energy and it should get easier, but its never easier than eating
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hairygrandpa
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Injury sucks azz. If you have to lose a few pounds AND like to accelerate healing, give it a try. Not sure if fasting is good for injuries -as I imagine the body would need nutrients for healing. It may be good for chronic problems -or auto immune disorders, I guess.