act quick when they drop and don't forget to use one of the many rep codes like the one in my signature!~ people are watching this and product will move fast!!Are they out of everything? Because I don’t see any of these products on their site
act quick when they drop and don't forget to use one of the many rep codes like the one in my signature!~ people are watching this and product will move fast!!Are they out of everything? Because I don’t see any of these products on their site
Mithras and Triump is Iron Legion bud.VL is g2g. Have their msten, dmz, alpha 1, trest, mithras, triumph, osta, lgd, etc. All have treated me well. I would consider them trust worthy when it comes to the quality of their products in which they put out. From ingredients down to design. Top notch all the way. They truly are the last of the last.
ZOO sold them too... I think he bought out the remaining stock of ILs triumph in the beginning..Mithras and Triump is Iron Legion bud.
I used his "Mithras" a couple of times.ZOO sold them too... I think he bought out the remaining stock of ILs triumph in the beginning..
Good lord...sell me some Triumph lol. I know you've got some stockpiled heheZOO sold them too... I think he bought out the remaining stock of ILs triumph in the beginning..
I could use some too. We really need to come up with a good four or five letter nickname for Methyldiazirinol. M-Zol? I just hate typing.Good lord...sell me some Triumph lol. I know you've got some stockpiled hehe
I put 40 pounds on my bench with s23I seen a few post of substantially elevated liver enzymes from s23. Also m sten will outshine s23. Yk 11 is very good bulker too more than s 23. I suspect there is alot of bunk yk 11 around. Some say dismal size and strength gainz. Others say strength shot up alot on yk11
started with 20, then 30, then ended at 40. Strength gains were gradual and consistent week to week.What dose of s23 daily did you run?
Zoo posted on the VL forum that the manufacturer was delayed. He's waiting to hear from them.Any idea what time they’re going up today?
I only did 15mg in my stack for 40 days. I suspected I needed 25 at least but didn’t get enough product.started with 20, then 30, then ended at 40. Strength gains were gradual and consistent week to week.
Some people definitely run it at 45, so that’s worth a try.Been running cadaver candy dmz at 2 caps per day for 3 weeks now. I can’t say I’ve seen big time results so wondering if I should up the dose? Basically some moderate strength gain but not as much as I was expecting based on the great reviews, thoughts?
I'll honest, I ate like ish. Diet wise I wasn't mentally there. Still did cardio tho and put on muscle even tho body fat was prob at 18%. Composition wise it stayed the same just bigger. Got up to 245. Overall put on 20 pounds and 40 pounds on my bench. Can't squat or deadlift from a lower back injury from a car accident.I only did 15mg in my stack for 40 days. I suspected I needed 25 at least but didn’t get enough product.
What did your bodyweight and composition do over your run?
Dang yeah gaining 20lbs will definitely drive your press! I was in a deficit too so not like I could expect a lot of power.I'll honest, I ate like ish. Diet wise I wasn't mentally there. Still did cardio tho and put on muscle even tho body fat was prob at 18%. Composition wise it stayed the same just bigger. Got up to 245. Overall put on 20 pounds and 40 pounds on my bench. Can't squat or deadlift from a lower back injury from a car accident.
45 mgs per day at least for the good gainsBeen running cadaver candy dmz at 2 caps per day for 3 weeks now. I can’t say I’ve seen big time results so wondering if I should up the dose? Basically some moderate strength gain but not as much as I was expecting based on the great reviews, thoughts?
This is the first time I’ve ever heard bad feedback on Vicious tbh. Do you have experience with ph/ds prior?Been running cadaver candy dmz at 2 caps per day for 3 weeks now. I can’t say I’ve seen big time results so wondering if I should up the dose? Basically some moderate strength gain but not as much as I was expecting based on the great reviews, thoughts?
IMO 30 is a low dose of DMZ.. almost too little for anyone with prior androgen use.. 45 is the OG sweet spot for most but I have seen it run higher than that.. sometimes it depends on the dosing on the brand.This is the first time I’ve ever heard bad feedback on Vicious tbh. Do you have experience with ph/ds prior?
BTW... I used 30 mgs per day on a recent stack, it was quite underwhelming until the last two weeks of the stack where I pushed up 50mgs every day.. then all the sudden I could tell I was using it. again I would go up until the sides get to be too bad, and then dial it back when you find your sweet spot.Been running cadaver candy dmz at 2 caps per day for 3 weeks now. I can’t say I’ve seen big time results so wondering if I should up the dose? Basically some moderate strength gain but not as much as I was expecting based on the great reviews, thoughts?
30-45 is the sweetspot from what I’ve heard. I’d honestly expect some decent results on 30mg unless this guy is the size of an ifbb pro or just doesn’t eat enough lol.IMO 30 is a low dose of DMZ.. almost too little for anyone with prior androgen use.. 45 is the OG sweet spot for most but I have seen it run higher than that.. sometimes it depends on the dosing on the brand.
see I think people confuse SD dosing with DMZ as its 2 SD molecules attached by an azine bond. 30mgs of SD was a good dose but not so much with DMZ.. its just not that kind of strong.. But I do agree with your statement.. and I mentioned the same thing about prior androgen use, making 30mgs underwhelming.30-45 is the sweetspot from what I’ve heard. I’d honestly expect some decent results on 30mg unless this guy is the size of an ifbb pro or just doesn’t eat enough lol.
See my log here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-logs/304805-first-cycle-dmz.htmlBeen running cadaver candy dmz at 2 caps per day for 3 weeks now. I can’t say I’ve seen big time results so wondering if I should up the dose? Basically some moderate strength gain but not as much as I was expecting based on the great reviews, thoughts?
I say go for it, just watch for sides. I did 30mg for a week before switching to 45mg, and 45mg has treated me just fine with continued minimal to no sides.Ya ran super dmz 2.0 and hdrol a few times
Wasn’t giving it a bad review just wondering if should adjust my dose as was expecting more
3 weeks in and haven’t run dmz solo
Thanks
I support this statement 100%IMO 30 is a low dose of DMZ.. almost too little for anyone with prior androgen use.. 45 is the OG sweet spot for most but I have seen it run higher than that.. sometimes it depends on the dosing on the brand.
This is old news, but everybody always watch out for fake Blackstone Labs Super DMZ 2.0.Ya ran super dmz 2.0 and hdrol a few times
Wasn’t giving it a bad review just wondering if should adjust my dose as was expecting more
3 weeks in and haven’t run dmz solo
Thanks
Watch out for anything from Blackstone lolThis is old news, but everybody always watch out for fake Blackstone Labs Super DMZ 2.0.
Was it your cousin's best friend's neighbor's daughter's friend?Somebody said Zoo said his supplier was delayed but haven’t got an official update yet
Olive leaf and Arjuna are what I use and they have worked really well for me.I had good results at 30mg of VL DMZ for the first 3 weeks then bumped up to 45mg for 2 weeks. Also ran it with his epiandro at 900mg preworkout and 600 on of days. I would say it was definitely great for recomp. Gained a few lbs of lean mass and lost some fat. Some strength gains but I also wasnt to high of a calorie surplus. About 400 or 500 calories over maintenance if that.
It was exacly what I was looking for. Looking forward to a full cycle at 45mg and possible msten. Blood pressure went up some at 45mg of dmz but not bad. Will look for some extra blood pressure supps before next cycle. Anybody have suggestion for that?
Hope so!The site says the new products will be out next Monday, the 27th now.
Celery seed extract is almost like a pharmaceutical for me. Does wonders for high bp.Celery seed extract and hawthorn berry should clear up a lot of bp issues
Where are you seeing that?The site says the new products will be out next Monday, the 27th now.
On the homepage, there's a ribbon across the top. When the "Elements, Coming Soon" appears, you can click on the "Designer Supplements". That'll take you to the three products and when you click on one, it says 8/27.Where are you seeing that?
on the forum or the store? link?On the homepage, there's a ribbon across the top. When the "Elements, Coming Soon" appears, you can click on the "Designer Supplements". That'll take you to the three products and when you click on one, it says 8/27.
Quite a few dudes lining up! Hope production meets demand!
https://www.viciouslabs.net/collections/elementson the forum or the store? link?
Good stuff.I am going to start my Necrobombs cycle in June. Excited!