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Anavar for the first time

hairygrandpa how is it going with extra creatine and var?

Gave me bad cramps for the first 5 days. Look, I believe my var to be good quality -but honestly, I don't noticed it to be "The super sh1t", with -or without creatine and caffeine.
Now one could say: It's because:
-your var is still bunk
-cycle too long = receptor down regulation
-testosterone too high = competing for receptors
-your diet sucks
-your training sucks
-your cat sucks
-your dog sucks

After 10 weeks on var, I noted a bit more vascularity and hardening. Maybe a bit of strength gain too. I estimate to have gained 2-3 lbs of muscle.That's all.
It should have been a cut -but my discipline sucked azz and I decided to make it a recomp. Ate clean (but at maintenance) and trained 3-4 times x week.
When I drop the creatine I will know if I lost fat.
 
Gave me bad cramps for the first 5 days. Look, I believe my var to be good quality -but honestly, I don't noticed it to be "The super sh1t", with -or without creatine and caffeine.
Now one could say: It's because:
-your var is still bunk
-cycle too long = receptor down regulation
-testosterone too high = competing for receptors
-your diet sucks
-your training sucks
-your cat sucks
-your dog sucks

After 10 weeks on var, I noted a bit more vascularity and hardening. Maybe a bit of strength gain too. I estimate to have gained 2-3 lbs of muscle.That's all.
It should have been a cut -but my discipline sucked azz and I decided to make it a recomp. Ate clean (but at maintenance) and trained 3-4 times x week.
When I drop the creatine I will know if I lost fat.

The only reasonable explanation is your cat sucks... thanks for the info!
 
Once my job gets a bit more stable and I can focus on it, I think I will run a "Super Var" log lol. Pre and post cycle bloods to see if this whole no pct required thing holds up. Pics, dexa scan... the works. Could be a nice little 6 week experiment, plus I have the whole 30g creatine bolus dose ****s to look forward to :lew:
 
Once my job gets a bit more stable and I can focus on it, I think I will run a "Super Var" log lol. Pre and post cycle bloods to see if this whole no pct required thing holds up. Pics, dexa scan... the works. Could be a nice little 6 week experiment, plus I have the whole 30g creatine bolus dose ****s to look forward to :lew:

Sorry bro your var is probably bunk.
 
Haha damn... I had already forgotten I can' t get real var. Back to the drawing board.

Lmao!

I heard that mars is made of pure oxandrolone dust. Only it's the only source of raw var in the universe. That's why we are trying to colonize it...So the human race can finally have the mystical 1:10billion androgenic to anabolic profile and live forever.
 
Second day without creatine and I can see a huge difference. Anavar works! My arms are huge!
Wait...they always were huge.... never mind.
 
ok too much going on here, lol so what's true and what's trolling ????

-Mars is made from Anavar = false (made with peanuts = true)
-my cat messing with my stash = false (dog did it = true)
-all Anavar is bunk = true
-unobtainable "real" Anavar is awesome = true (but you can't get it)
-did I mention my arms are huge = true? (true!)
 
ok too much going on here, lol so what's true and what's trolling ????

Here's some facts stated by a guy.

Most anavar is bunk, Walgreens is your best bet.
Take it with 30g of creatine because no reason.
Take with 300mg caffeine. (actually true)
Take it once a day, even though it has a max 9 hour half life.
70-80mg actually equals 40-50mg of legit stuff (wut)
Don't take caff past 2pm. The position of the sun makes it detrimental to gains (duh)
More is not better.
Don't take with test but torem (NEVER NOLVA)
That about sums it up! Or you could just do what 99% of other people do and make a stack that works for you!
 
Here's some facts stated by a guy.

Most anavar is bunk, Walgreens is your best bet.
Take it with 30g of creatine because no reason.
Take with 300mg caffeine. (actually true)
Take it once a day, even though it has a max 9 hour half life.
70-80mg actually equals 40-50mg of legit stuff (wut)
Don't take caff past 2pm. The position of the sun makes it detrimental to gains (duh)
More is not better.
Don't take with test but torem (NEVER NOLVA)
That about sums it up! Or you could just do what 99% of other people do and make a stack that works for you!
thanks
well wtf lol hairygrandpa u crazy lol
 
Once my job gets a bit more stable and I can focus on it, I think I will run a "Super Var" log lol. Pre and post cycle bloods to see if this whole no pct required thing holds up. Pics, dexa scan... the works. Could be a nice little 6 week experiment, plus I have the whole 30g creatine bolus dose ****s to look forward to :lew:
Tag me if you do
 
One last word:

My belief is, that there is a limit of how much muscles one can grow in a certain time frame -no matter what you take and how hard you train.
If a 6 week Anavar cycle can give you the maximum amount of muscles possible -with the right diet and training, it would be much less than you would think.
Results from wet AAS like D-bol are not true muscle gains, after the bloat is gone -whats left is gained muscle -and I bet, it would compare to the "dry" gains of Anavar.
So no, no quick magical gains from Anavar or ANY steroid.
 
One last word:

My belief is, that there is a limit of how much muscles one can grow in a certain time frame -no matter what you take and how hard you train.
If a 6 week Anavar cycle can give you the maximum amount of muscles possible -with the right diet and training, it would be much less than you would think.
Results from wet AAS like D-bol are not true muscle gains, after the bloat is gone -whats left is gained muscle -and I bet, it would compare to the "dry" gains of Anavar.
So no, no quick magical gains from Anavar or ANY steroid.
only time I saw stupid gainz is when i use compounds for the first time , when I used epistane first time first cycle I blew the f up.
then tren same thing
 
only time I saw stupid gainz is when i use compounds for the first time , when I used epistane first time first cycle I blew the f up.
then tren same thing

Sure, a few pounds can make you look different, especially in the beginning. Most people -if not all, have trouble to hold on to said "gains". It's because no muscle mass was gained -only more glycogen was stored, giving the appearance of gains. Anavar is "dry". IF you visibly gain something on it, it's probably muscle.
 
Sure, a few pounds can make you look different, especially in the beginning. Most people -if not all, have trouble to hold on to said "gains". It's because no muscle mass was gained -only more glycogen was stored, giving the appearance of gains. Anavar is "dry". IF you visibly gain something on it, it's probably muscle.
I lost alot of my gainz after my first cycle because I simply couldn't eat enough to maintain the added muscles.
the 2nd cycle tho I kept 22 lbs out of 27 lbs
 
I lost alot of my gainz after my first cycle because I simply couldn't eat enough to maintain the added muscles.
the 2nd cycle tho I kept 22 lbs out of 27 lbs

The second was Tren, right? How long was the cycle, did you PCT or are you "always on"?
 
The second was Tren, right? How long was the cycle, did you PCT or are you "always on"?
yeah it was 55 days of ph convert to dienlone and it was the best cycle strength gainz phenomenal and size was increasing rapidly that my joints had hard time handling the extra weight .
now this is why I think I kept alot of my gainz is because I actually was on a diet and lost alot of weight before that cycle.
and yes I pct, also I mainly run 2 cycles a year
 
yeah it was 55 days of ph convert to dienlone and it was the best cycle strength gainz phenomenal and size was increasing rapidly that my joints had hard time handling the extra weight .
now this is why I think I kept alot of my gainz is because I actually was on a diet and lost alot of weight before that cycle.
and yes I pct, also I mainly run 2 cycles a year

That is why nothing compares to tren. My bet is, you touched the limit what's possible in 55 days with 22lbs gained.
 
Wait...what? You're saying tren but then saying the PH to dienolone. Did you use tren or dienolone or the prohormone to dienolone?
Am confuse. Pls clarify.
 
the bottle said tren but it's pro dienlone I thought it was trenavar but it wasn't

Okay so you DIDN'T take tren. Those are unusually large gains for a prohormone cycle. Well done.
 
It was impressive gainz and the fact I kept 22 lbs was awesome. hairygrandpa i think the fact that I started the cycle after a cut it was successful because of that too

Definitely plays a role in how much you gain. Your insulin sensitivity is up, and probably eating more food than usual along with the enhanced protein synthesis that comes with PH/AAS. Recipe for great gainz
 
Definitely plays a role in how much you gain. Your insulin sensitivity is up, and probably eating more food than usual along with the enhanced protein synthesis that comes with PH/AAS. Recipe for great gainz
didn't thank of the reasons but this make big sense
 
Hi spurfy what about dermacrine could that be used along side serm and anavar? thanks

No. Dermacrine is way too potent. It would make your anus prolapse.

-kidding, its actually a good idea, dermacrine is almost always a good choice
 
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