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MK-677

L-arginine is a potent somatostatin inhibitor and is more diversely beneficial than hupe-A. The inhibition of somatistatin with moderate doses of l-arginine has been long understood whereas I've seen very little in regards to huperzine A. If someone could provide a study link id appreciate it.

Yes i totally agree! The strongest legal(also non grey area) somatistatin inhibitor would be a product like High Volume with some added ornithine(also a proven somatistatin inhibitor).

For an all out GH boosting stack would be mk and cjc combo with natural sleep aid (my recommendation is sleephoria), High Volume [really you could use just Agmatine and l-citrulline(as its well known that cit increases arginine levels higher then just arginine)], ornithine, hup a, choline(any form works) and DSIP(Delta-Sleep-Inducing-Peptide). Yes it is safe to stack all these together, expensive as hell, but safe. As a matter of fact i have even see someone from another forum log this exact combo and he loved it. He said it felt very close to 8uis of real Hgh
 
Yes i totally agree! The strongest legal(also non grey area) somatistatin inhibitor would be a product like High Volume with some added ornithine(also a proven somatistatin inhibitor).

For an all out GH boosting stack would be mk and cjc combo with natural sleep aid (my recommendation is sleephoria), High Volume [really you could use just Agmatine and l-citrulline(as its well known that cit increases arginine levels higher then just arginine)], ornithine, hup a, choline(any form works) and DSIP(Delta-Sleep-Inducing-Peptide). Yes it is safe to stack all these together, expensive as hell, but safe. As a matter of fact i have even see someone from another forum log this exact combo and he loved it. He said it felt very close to 8uis of real Hgh

Hmmm this is very interesting. Will look more into now.
 
Nutriverse is out of OL UK products, sounds like everyone is running low or out now :worried:
Gonna see some silly prices on ebay in the months to come.
 
Nutriverse is out of OL UK products, sounds like everyone is running low or out now :worried:
Gonna see some silly prices on ebay in the months to come.

I wouldn't see why, you can get anything from the various RC's. The OL Fire sale was great, but I think at original retail, the gap wasn't that big. I have some RC LGD - 300mg was $58. Legend was 360mg for $45. Better, but not insane. Now that sale!!!!! That was nice :)
 
I wouldn't see why, you can get anything from the various RC's. The OL Fire sale was great, but I think at original retail, the gap wasn't that big. I have some RC LGD - 300mg was $58. Legend was 360mg for $45. Better, but not insane. Now that sale!!!!! That was nice :)

Accessibility vs availability. Not everyone knows where to look for RC product, or even that it exists. People know what they have bought, not all are like our sharp AM brethren ( & sisters) who will research the compounds, not just the product name. Plus, buying OTC from some of our fave supp stores is easy, especially with pretty packaging, encapsulated product & freight labelling (international) that may just be a wee bit vague on the description :27:

Now, try & bring a packet of white powder into Oz...
 
And yes, yes it was a nice sale. Let's see what goodies fall into our willing hands next year. That champion fellow yates84 has already intimated at further anabolic products in development. Who knows what sweet new natty products & as yet unreleased SARMs (etc) will hit the shelves. :fingersx:

Until then, I hope everyone has stocked up cos as soon as the supp stores run out the ebay sellers will command a premium.
It already happened with MK Ultra here in Oz...Ghar1ne is semi reasonable for the moment...but still way over the OL sale prices we grabbed from NV etc.
 
Ghar1ne can still be found in UK but for about $80 plus shipping (about $90), when my bottle is over, i think it will be the first and last.
 
I´m not in UK but in Europe. But theres not many places selling it in Europe. UK is one of the "easiest" places to find it. But at least the stores i had a look were selling it for about £55 plus shipping :\


Yeah we get the **** end of the stick lol. If you go the RX route you will find lotts, Normaly better value too.
 
Yeah doesn't the EU have way more lax steroid laws lol

BTW will prolonged mk677 use have similar effects to pinned gh like thickening of hands/fingers, bones, etc
 
Can MK677 cause dry mouth?

Two days ago i upped my dosage from 10 to 20mg and since then i have a constant sensation of dry mouth and the palate with a "burned" sensation like when i eat something very hot. A sore cames out in the tongue too.

I´m only curious if can be related to MK677 because it can be from my diet too. In the last few days it has been far from perfect.
 
Can MK677 cause dry mouth?

Two days ago i upped my dosage from 10 to 20mg and since then i have a constant sensation of dry mouth and the palate with a "burned" sensation like when i eat something very hot. A sore cames out in the tongue too.

I´m only curious if can be related to MK677 because it can be from my diet too. In the last few days it has been far from perfect.

Can honestly say I've yet to experience of, or hear about a side effect like that!
 
I've switched my daily 10mg Ghar1ne intake to lunch time in an attempt to offset the lethargy during waking hours. It does appear to be helping, or i'm naturally quickly overcoming the tiredness, though still with some evident. Recovery & size is still good, even at 10mg.

Taking it in the a.m. was a bad idea - that had me nodding off late afternoon.
Taking it at night had me nodding off at lunch time.

Food for thought.
 
I've switched my daily 10mg Ghar1ne intake to lunch time in an attempt to offset the lethargy during waking hours. It does appear to be helping, or i'm naturally quickly overcoming the tiredness, though still with some evident. Recovery & size is still good, even at 10mg.

Taking it in the a.m. was a bad idea - that had me nodding off late afternoon.
Taking it at night had me nodding off at lunch time.

Food for thought.
Are you running it solo?
 
I've switched my daily 10mg Ghar1ne intake to lunch time in an attempt to offset the lethargy during waking hours. It does appear to be helping, or i'm naturally quickly overcoming the tiredness, though still with some evident. Recovery & size is still good, even at 10mg.

Taking it in the a.m. was a bad idea - that had me nodding off late afternoon.
Taking it at night had me nodding off at lunch time.

Food for thought.

I wonder if this is what's causing me brain fog until noon every day. Maybe I'll back my dosing up until early afternoon instead of before bed.
 
Are you running it solo?

I re-started it solo during a simple pct so I could gauge the effect. I've dropped the Hup-A to cycle off for a break, but it didn't alleviate the lethargy anyway.
I'm also running a natty test booster.
I've since added osta at 20mg in the morn, but that has no (ill) effect on my energy levels.
I'm keeping my stim intake to Mesomorph (or similar) every 2nd day, as my stim habit got out of control last time!

I'd like to add Dermacrine but want to finish pct first, then might go to Epiandro as a primer to a Dtrest + nano-tren run...with MK the whole way through.
 
I wonder if this is what's causing me brain fog until noon every day. Maybe I'll back my dosing up until early afternoon instead of before bed.

I ran nearly 3 bottles of Rainbow Light Omega Brain Performance recently and can honestly say I've never had a neuro boosting product like it. I've used many of the ingredients before, but in this product with the Hup-A the difference was just amazing. Brain fog begone! I'll be back on it shortly :approve:
 
Will prolonged mk677 use have similar effects to pinned gh like thickening of hands/fingers, bones, etc

or is it not enough gh like pinning to have that kind of effect?
 
Getting Ready to up my dose to 30mg a day
 
Will prolonged mk677 use have similar effects to pinned gh like thickening of hands/fingers, bones, etc

or is it not enough gh like pinning to have that kind of effect?

I don't think so that sounds like gh abuse side effect mk677 is not like exogenous gh,but how long u r talking about?
 
Definitely won't happen in that short of time frame. Probably won't happen even at a year.
You are right. It depends on dosage and on the timeframe.

Even with enormous dosages of HGH you will need a longer time period to get side effects like acromegaly.

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Therefore we are trying to not get a GH bleed. This is the easierst way to stay as safe as possible. Secondly, with MK-677 only the peaks of the first diagramm increase, not the overall 24/7 production (called bleed).

I would recommend to stay under 75mg/ed for a longer time period to be safe. 25mg/ed are even potent enough.
 
You are right. It depends on dosage and on the timeframe.

Even with enormous dosages of HGH you will need a longer time period to get side effects like acromegaly.

Watch this: Invalid Link Removed

Therefore we are trying to not get a GH bleed. This is the easierst way to stay as safe as possible. Secondly, with MK-677 only the peaks of the first diagramm increase, not the overall 24/7 production (called bleed).

I would recommend to stay under 75mg/ed for a longer time period to be safe. 25mg/ed are even potent enough.
Thanks for that.

know any good articles on mk677 that you know of personally?
 
Sadly I was only able to get one bottle of Ghar1ne Am I better off running it only in pct or along with my next cycle, starting in about a week or so (rad first 4 weeks then osta for 8/10 )
 
Sadly I was only able to get one bottle of Ghar1ne Am I better off running it only in pct or along with my next cycle, starting in about a week or so (rad first 4 weeks then osta for 8/10 )

Seems like it's more effective when run concurrently with your cycle. If you take 10mg a day though, one bottle should last you almost 13 weeks. You could start the MK 677 on week 2 of your cycle and run it all the way through your cycle and PCT.
Also, are you running the osta along with the rad or not starting it till after the rad?
 
Seems like it's more effective when run concurrently with your cycle. If you take 10mg a day though, one bottle should last you almost 13 weeks. You could start the MK 677 on week 2 of your cycle and run it all the way through your cycle and PCT.
Also, are you running the osta along with the rad or not starting it till after the rad?

Was going to do 4 weeks rad alone then osta. I also have trest. Forgot that in the first post
 
Was going to do 4 weeks rad alone then osta. I also have trest. Forgot that in the first post

I'd start the osta with the rad. That way it starts working for you by the time you end the rad.
Trest would be another good addition, could run it as a base at 25mg dose, or see more benefits at 50-75.
 
I'd start the osta with the rad. That way it starts working for you by the time you end the rad.
Trest would be another good addition, could run it as a base at 25mg dose, or see more benefits at 50-75.

I was going to use it at 50mg Ed Along with support supps. You think I need. Eliminate also?
 
I was going to use it at 50mg Ed Along with support supps. You think I need. Eliminate also?

I don't really bother with arimistane anymore. Doesn't do a whole lot for estrogen. I'd definitely recommend getting some exemestane if you're gonna run trest.
 
I don't really bother with arimistane anymore. Doesn't do a whole lot for estrogen. I'd definitely recommend getting some exemestane if you're gonna run trest.

Dude, given the cycles you run i'm not surprised you need stiffer anti-estro products. It'd be like trying to plug a dam wall with chewing gum! :09:
 
Was going to do 4 weeks rad alone then osta. I also have trest. Forgot that in the first post

I'd start the osta with the rad. That way it starts working for you by the time you end the rad.
Trest would be another good addition, could run it as a base at 25mg dose, or see more benefits at 50-75.

What about Dermacrine as the base & just use trest pre-workout? Keep the AI handy just in case? Or even Erase Pro last 4 weeks of cycle.
 
Dude, given the cycles you run i'm not surprised you need stiffer anti-estro products. It'd be like trying to plug a dam wall with chewing gum! :09:
Hahaha yeah I had to grab a couple bottles of letro on my last run, deca and test had me looking like a second moon was on top of my neck. Swollen as f. Puffy/lumpy nips too but all good now. Will have more quality AI for this next cycle. I've learned from my mistakes.
What about Dermacrine as the base & just use trest pre-workout? Keep the AI handy just in case? Or even Erase Pro last 4 weeks of cycle.

You could do that I suppose, although you really want to keep the compound levels in your blood fairly stable for best results, and oral trest is not going to stay in your body for long. I'm doing oral trest only PWO but I'm also using test enanthate as my base. Little stronger than dermacrine. Also might add in 25mg TD if I think I can handle the sides of the test/trest combo. I have adex, exemestane, letro, and caber all on hand in anticipation of growing b1tch tits or something.
Edit: just remembered you said you just had some left over from last cycle. Taking oral only preworkout would probably be fine, you just probably won't see nearly good of results from it compared to if you combined it with transdermal trest. I'm not for certain and will be finding out myself soon, but if you do oral only, your only benefit might be that awesome preworkout boost of pump strength and aggression everyone talks about.
Also, bro I strongly recommend just at least having a legitimate AI on hand in case you need it. None of these OTC "AIs" are going to save you if you develop issues from the trest. It's strong shiit and personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry.
 
Why not use the trest as the base as well?

What BamBam0319 says. You've already got SARMs & rad140 is a good gainer, so it's a case of how hard do you want to play? If you bang in oral trest round the clock you're going to need some serious support, whereas using it preworkout you'll get the mad gym alpha pumps & can possibly get away with dermacrine & maybe something like Ar1macare pro. You know your body, where it's at hormone wise, so only you know the level of support you'll need. Dermatrest would have been a good base for this cycle.

I have noticed that guys who go onto pharma AI's & SERMs tend to need to stick with them from that point on, be it because they run increasingly stronger cycles or because their body simply doesn't respond to natty & less potent estro controlling compounds & products as well anymore.
 
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