Could run the rad up to 12 is about the only thing I see that could be changed. Either 12/12/12/12 or 8/8/12/12
Sure I use it from the start or. Only if sides pop up?
Once you notice sides
^^Agreed. Trest below 100 should not present major estrogen issues but you're prepared just in case.
That's what I been seeing. Anything below 100 should pose minimal sides Might bump to 75 after user how 50 is going ( not if 50 is treating me well)
Glad to see this, brother. You gonna log it?
Yes I am going to log it
This is going to be a sweet cycle
I did lgd and osta in June. And did not need to use it either. But I would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have itThis is going to be a sweet cycle
Good to have the AI on hand, as the guys say just in case. I have some too, thankfully haven't had to crack it yet.
PM'ed.
I know this is totally anecdotal but mine went down since I lowered carbs (same daily cals).
You mean it's hard to WANT to eat clean? :wink1:
Have you noticed how much size & strength you can maintain even with reduced carbs &/or calorie intake on MK? It seems to assist with making crazy good use of whatever you put in, nutrient wise.
As I said I didn't lower calories, just carbs (added a bit of protein and fats to fill the gap). I have to say I'm still just as full but the unbearable hunger has significantly gone down. It certainly seem to work as a good partitioner, yeah.
Didn't puccah8808 do a log on them? I'm sure she seemed to think they were alright. A quick search shows heaps of HGH patch threads, here's Puccah & KilaCail's: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/269249-whuuuuuh-kilacali-puccahs.html
Yeah I've seen a lot of the sponsored logs but I don't know how I feel about them. I followed a few and it seemed like a lot of placebo just because they were sponsored and probably looking for effects to report in the log.
Yes! It's hard to WANT to clean, and since I struggle with that anyway, this is not a recipe for success lulz.
Good to know. I know Puccah was happy with sleep & recovery while using them, but that did seem to be a little inconsistent from memory. There can be many mitigating factors too.
Pizza?! Carb looooaaaaddd
I have not been taking anything hormonal for 2 weeks now, when I ended my PCT of Clomid from my last steroid cycle. So the patches have been solo.
mod edit: stop the rep company bashing
Have you used any other MK product, such as Ghar1ne or MK Ultra? Be handy to find someone who has been able to compare both first hand.
Interesting, thanks for that bit of info kboxer, handy to know.
Yeah I have used Ghar1ne as well as Primeval Labs Epi-GH which contained MK 677 and epiandro.
Wow, ok. You going to go the full course with the patches? I wonder if you'll reach some sort of saturation point at which time it will become noticeable...
I might as well, I have the "product" and I'd just throw it away if I don't use it.
Based on the logs, ALL users have run the patches for AT LEAST four weeks to notice the results. And some members felt the results a lot sooner than the four weeks. Some may be non responders, and that happens. But, two weeks is in no way enough to obtain the best results. Again, the logs all show positive reviews with the HGH MAXIMIZE patch after a months use.
What explanation do you have for the lack of effects from 40mg of MK 677, when on 10 and 20mg of MK 677 of other products the effects were noticeable within 24 hours of the first dosing?
My explanation would be to look at the logs from the respected members here on the forum. And there are many more positive reviews on the AGEFORCE website. There are many research papers on the website that show the efficacy of the patch.
Okay, I've looked at the logs already as has been stated and will take a look at these research papers.
Gotcha bro. My only advice is to stay the course for the whole month and see if you have noticed any effects after that. Thanks for trying out the patch by the way!
Yeah I'll be running through everything I have. I'll get back to you on what I observe.
For sure bro. And even if you don't feel anything, thanks again for trying it out and leaving your honest feedback.
20mg before bed made me very lethargic the next day & heavily stim reliant, but gave awesome recovery & pain relief/minor niggles disappeared.Has anyone noticed more pronounced effects from running 10, 20, 30mg?
Mate ran OL, and basically ran 10mg for 3 months.
He didn't notice much hunger, no water retention either. He mentioned minor fat loss, good strength, and decent sleep.
He did a few times take 20mg, and noticed being froggy the following day.
I personally saw no difference between 10mg and 40mgHas anyone noticed more pronounced effects from running 10, 20, 30mg?
Mate ran OL, and basically ran 10mg for 3 months.
He didn't notice much hunger, no water retention either. He mentioned minor fat loss, good strength, and decent sleep.
He did a few times take 20mg, and noticed being froggy the following day.
MK gum...
Seriously... With a half life that allows for OED dosing, why bother with the transdermal when you can just pop a couple caps whenever it's convenient. I get the desirability to replace injections with a transdermal, or using a time release patch for a product that needs to be dosed several times throughout the day, but I just don't see the point in this... Especially if it's not effective.
Have you read the MULTIPLE logs with the positive reviews? I respect your opinions, but the respected members of this forum have logged the patches with very positive results.
Sorry cleared, try again!
yes happened to me too, side effect seems to dissipate after about a week or so. Well at least it did for me.