MK-677
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regdabyenoh
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Is there negatives to Hup-A guys?
Love that this thread is still going, Such an interesting product and good to hear everyones expierience. Only worry for myself is lethargy, Not something I need but hopefuly if I do it will pass
Love that this thread is still going, Such an interesting product and good to hear everyones expierience. Only worry for myself is lethargy, Not something I need but hopefuly if I do it will pass
sanmarino
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Is there negatives to Hup-A guys?
Love that this thread is still going, Such an interesting product and good to hear everyones expierience. Only worry for myself is lethargy, Not something I need but hopefuly if I do it will pass
It's possible to receive high toxicity at high dosages. Up to 500mcg are therapeutically used. For MK-677 cycles 100-300mcg/ed are more than enough.
Plants shouldn't be undervalued
regdabyenoh
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It's possible to receive high toxicity at high dosages. Up to 500mcg are therapeutically used. For MK-677 cycles 100-300mcg/ed are more than enough.
Plants shouldn't be undervalued
Thanks sanmarino
BamBam0319
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regdabyenoh
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Yeah I would love to know you sanmarinos take on them too, posted a thread earlier too about it = Invalid Link Removed
sanmarino
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First of all, I found a lot of misinformation out there linked with this product like this one
20? Nice one. Until 25 the human body produces high amounts of HGH. 35years later - with 60 years - you will produce about 40% of the amount you produced with 25y (=100%)
[5000 times more hgh[/quote] 5000x of endogene HGH? Impossible. That would be an equivalent of 10'000 I.U. of pharma HGH.
Whatever. It should be known how these companies try to influence the potential customer with false informations (e.g. side effect free, absolutely safe,...)
Nevertheless, the product could work. Despite of the mid-term studies of two years, the bioavailability of transdermal uptake of MK-677 is not evaluated. With DMSO as a transport substance you will be able to increase the potency.
Further fun stuff is, I can't nearly find a seller and the ingredients. Just red something about Ipamorelin, MK-677 (25mg and not 40mg?) and some amino acids and supps like GABA.
So, you can try this product but why not using evaluated stuff (never change a running system)? MK-677 only is potent as hell.
An transdermal way should be possible but I cannit guarantee how high the bioavailability is.
It would be probably cheaper go get stuff from companies like OL (this HGH PowerPatch stuff costs 239.95 USD for 60 days). And 900mg of MK-677 (90 days) are 82 USD at OL.
From my point of view: in most cases such hyped products are not worthy (I'm not hating). Especially with stacked-products is's not easy to evaluate which compound is actually working now.
Better buy the substances at its own. Trust me, MK-677 only very potent and blends like GABA or amino acids which you are taking anyway with your supplements are only fillers. The only sensful compounds beside MK-677 are Ipamorelin and CJC-1295 without DAC.
Rocket3015
Legend
Is there negatives to Hup-A guys?
Love that this thread is still going, Such an interesting product and good to hear everyones expierience. Only worry for myself is lethargy, Not something I need but hopefuly if I do it will pass
I have had ZERO Lethargy !!
regdabyenoh
Member
Great post sanmarino, What I was wanting to hear
Realy interested in MK-677 and have 2 OL bottles on the way. My first option was Ipamorelin and CJC-1295 w/o Dac (mod GRF) but The injection frequency is an issue and Possibly won't get a ED dosing.
Realy interested in MK-677 and have 2 OL bottles on the way. My first option was Ipamorelin and CJC-1295 w/o Dac (mod GRF) but The injection frequency is an issue and Possibly won't get a ED dosing.
regdabyenoh
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Rocket do I remember reading you are on Test or TRT? Just wondering if the guys running Test get decreased Lethargy or any at all as I was reading posts on UK forums and the only negative was bloating from most users (not something that bothers me). Good reviews on UK forums and believe me there the first to say a product is **** lol.
sanmarino
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Great post sanmarino, What I was wanting to hear
Realy interested in MK-677 and have 2 OL bottles on the way. My first option was Ipamorelin and CJC-1295 w/o Dac (mod GRF) but The injection frequency is an issue and Possibly won't get a ED dosing.
MK-677 is in fact an orally availabr GHRP (like Ipamorelin). GHRP + GHRH (in this case CHC-1295 w/o DAC) would have a synergetic effect. To add Ipamorelin won't bring you better results because MK-677 has a stronger effect than Ipamorelin: effect like GHRP-2, but side effects of Ipamorelin.
The injection frequency of 3x per day is usual and must be followed at least 2x for good results. Otherwise it's a waste of money
When having a 24h-half life GHRP like MK-677, you only have to inject a GHRH 2-3x per day - at least one substance less
Try MK-677 as standalone first, if you want to abuse it. Everyone is like stacking everything in the first cycle, geeez
The results of one GHRP like MK-677 is strong enough.
By the way: if there is CJC-1295 and Ipa in this AgeForce product, you should logically use it 2-3x daily, too. Only because of the dernal application the half life won't change to 24
BamBam0319
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5000x of endogene HGH? Impossible. That would be an equivalent of 10'000 I.U. of pharma HGH.
Whatever. It should be known how these companies try to influence the potential customer with false informations (e.g. side effect free, absolutely safe,...)
Nevertheless, the product could work. Despite of the mid-term studies of two years, the bioavailability of transdermal uptake of MK-677 is not evaluated. With DMSO as a transport substance you will be able to increase the potency.
Further fun stuff is, I can't nearly find a seller and the ingredients. Just red something about Ipamorelin, MK-677 (25mg and not 40mg?) and some amino acids and supps like GABA.
So, you can try this product but why not using evaluated stuff (never change a running system)? MK-677 only is potent as hell.
An transdermal way should be possible but I cannit guarantee how high the bioavailability is.
It would be probably cheaper go get stuff from companies like OL (this HGH PowerPatch stuff costs 239.95 USD for 60 days). And 900mg of MK-677 (90 days) are 82 USD at OL.
From my point of view: in most cases such hyped products are not worthy (I'm not hating). Especially with stacked-products is's not easy to evaluate which compound is actually working now.
Better buy the substances at its own. Trust me, MK-677 only very potent and blends like GABA or amino acids which you are taking anyway with your supplements are only fillers. The only sensful compounds beside MK-677 are Ipamorelin and CJC-1295 without DAC.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, I was skeptical myself. I have a couple bottles of OL Ghar1ne as well.
Rocket3015
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I am on TRT 200mg per week, you might be on to something here. I have had very little bloat with this, I did use an RC and the bloat was unbearable!!
regdabyenoh
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Just wondering because the guys on the uk forums are on allot of gear. If the RC effected you though maybe not. Cheers Rocket
regdabyenoh
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MK-677 is in fact an orally availabr GHRP (like Ipamorelin). GHRP + GHRH (in this case CHC-1295 w/o DAC) would have a synergetic effect. To add Ipamorelin won't bring you better results because MK-677 has a stronger effect than Ipamorelin: effect like GHRP-2, but side effects of Ipamorelin.
The injection frequency of 3x per day is usual and must be followed at least 2x for good results. Otherwise it's a waste of money
When having a 24h-half life GHRP like MK-677, you only have to inject a GHRH 2-3x per day - at least one substance less
Try MK-677 as standalone first, if you want to abuse it. Everyone is like stacking everything in the first cycle, geeez
The results of one GHRP like MK-677 is strong enough.
By the way: if there is CJC-1295 and Ipa in this AgeForce product, you should logically use it 2-3x daily, too. Only because of the dernal application the half life won't change to 24
Fountain of knowledge Sanmarino
Even more excited about trying MK-677 now, Yeah I will try solo as its all I may need.
Last thing though, What are your thoughts on CJC with dac or are you not a fan?
cheeky1
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I think so...
Makes me want to whack in 1 ml of test a week with MK just to see if the lethargy subsides :tired:
LiftWithDonuts
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So with the OL gharnine I haven't had the hand numbness or gh pulses that everyone seems to talk about. Or the bloat. I've been doing at 50mg a night as well.
Burnfire
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cheeky1
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50mg?! Holy cow, that's a lot of Ghar1ne! Did you work up to that & if so what degree of effectiveness over lower dosages would you say you received?
I didn't get any tingling, numbness, bloat or pulses either, not even at 30mg. Just that steenkin tirednessss....
cheeky1
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Dem gainz :head:
How long will you be running trest & lgd for? DMZ for 4 weeks?
I just received some dermatrest, i'm keen to play with that next cycle...might add to nano-tren or radarine. Hoping dermatrest keeps me going with the MK re-introduced.
Dma378
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Dude we're running same cycle. Bloat is too much for me at 20mg mk, 125 of Trest. Also 8 mg of LGD and 8mg of RAD. Rad ends tomorrow and DMZ starts right after.
But can't stand the bloat from the 2. Dropping the mass GH (LGD and mk) because of it. Wish I had LGD solo to carry on.
But DMZ will pick up the slack and fill the void. Possibly Halo along with.
So I've got an uncracked bottle of ghar1ne and half a bottle of MASS GH, and I sure could use some TUDCA. Hint hint...
goodvibes
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It's a damn good stack. I'd take your gharine in a few months I still have 7 bottles in my arsenal so I'm not on desperate mode yet.
Trest never really bloats me as much, only food does that to me. On the other hand MK677 is a major bloater... I ran eca stack for 4 weeks prior to this cycle so I felt like that helped me big time. I'm also on TD formestane about 150mg (3mLs/day two split doses) as my main AI, I'm saving adex when I don't feel like applying TDs.
goodvibes
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Trest/LGD for 8 weeks, I'm overlapping dmz for 6 weeks or 5 depending on how my bp/liver handles this run. I know what to look out for so I'll be cautious. Trest/LGD is a breeze.
cheeky1
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Nice.
Dma378
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It's a damn good stack. I'd take your gharine in a few months I still have 7 bottles in my arsenal so I'm not on desperate mode yet.
Trest never really bloats me as much, only food does that to me. On the other hand MK677 is a major bloater... I ran eca stack for 4 weeks prior to this cycle so I felt like that helped me big time. I'm also on TD formestane about 150mg (3mLs/day two split doses) as my main AI, I'm saving adex when I don't feel like applying TDs.
Yeah that's why I'm dropping the mk and not the Trest. Diet's pretty good. Tightened it up even more to try and mitigate it and it seemed to only get worse last few days.
And this is why I have always not been an fan of combined products. And the first time I use one, I have to drop it all together to get rid of 1.
LiftWithDonuts
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Maybe It's just me that's not getting the mk677 bloat with gharnine *yay
goodvibes
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That's why I had to know how MK was going to treat me first. LGD was basically side free besides the shut down. The stacked savings is huge and when I found out I liked MK, getting Mass GH was a no brainer.
The_Old_Guy
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But getting the "right" components is the trick if you aren't using that Swedish brand.
regdabyenoh
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I could deal with the bloat but I dont want to feel groggy, Heres hoping.
Burnfire
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Throw in some dermacrine
BamBam0319
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Also consider cocaine, works wonders
regdabyenoh
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I'm using Test so not sure it would help, Maybe though. I might not even get groggy though.
Burnfire
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Oh yeah didn't know you were running test. I'm a little groggy in the morning then like half way through my day
regdabyenoh
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Yeah hoping the test will help with the grog.
rtmilburn
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Even through you are using test dermacrine can help with energy levels. Both dhea and especially preg are very beneficial especially when added on top of test. You got to remember they are nureo active hormones. They also convert to pretty much any other reproductive hormone, some of which you wont produces while on test because your hpta is suppressed/shutdown.
regdabyenoh
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I did think of adding in dermacrine a while ago due to some posts about dhea and preg by Kisaj. Forgot about it until now, You know I might just give it a shot anyway. Thanks for the info
pizzadrol
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L-arginine is a potent somatostatin inhibitor and is more diversely beneficial than hupe-A. The inhibition of somatostatin with moderate doses of l-arginine has been long understood whereas I've seen very little in regards to huperzine A. If someone could provide a study link id appreciate it.
DoubleM101
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I´m taking Ghar1ne for about 5 weeks but i miss the hungry boost i felt in the first two weeks. It was amazing since the first day but after two weeks it returned to normal.
I´m only taking 10mg. I was taking it in the morning and now i´m taking in the night, but i feel no difference.
Theres any way to have the increased hungry back? Maybe increasing the dosage to 20mg? Taking it for 5 days and stop for 2? I would prefer to not increase the dosage (less side effects and cheaper run) so the second or another option is preferable but if it´s the only way, i can try.
I´m only taking 10mg. I was taking it in the morning and now i´m taking in the night, but i feel no difference.
Theres any way to have the increased hungry back? Maybe increasing the dosage to 20mg? Taking it for 5 days and stop for 2? I would prefer to not increase the dosage (less side effects and cheaper run) so the second or another option is preferable but if it´s the only way, i can try.
GreenMachineX
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Increase to 20mg and the hunger will come back. I stayed on 20mg for several weeks and the hunger never went away. I just increased to 30mg for shiggles this past week though.
DoubleM101
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How are 20mg usually taken? All at once or splitted in 10mg dosages?
regdabyenoh
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At Once.
The_Old_Guy
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I now have 13 months (@ 10mg) of OL 677 thanks to a 2x MassGH purchase yesterday. I'm going to start it with an Osta cut in Feb, through PCT and Off Cycle, then through an LGD gain/PCT/ Off Cycle. I may jump up, but a straight 10mg will do something, right? I'm always fine with "a little better than normal".
GreenMachineX
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I take it all at once before bed.
Rocket3015
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I split My 4am Preworkout and 3pm in the afternoon
Burnfire
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How is that working for you? I'm at 10mg now dosing at night before bed. I was going to add 10mg upon waking.
Rocket3015
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No Sides, No Problems I will be adding a third dose before bed next week.
You can check out my log if you like
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regdabyenoh
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Are you Enjoying the Cardarine Rocket? I will have a good look at your log later after work though.
Rocket3015
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I have leaned out a bit with out losing any body weight, so I would say the combination is working well !