SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

[CJNator]

Hopefully it stays in stock for a while.

I agree/ I'd like to try a bottle or 2(whatever is needed for a cycle), hopefully for a week or 2 at least.

 

[T-Bone]

I agree/ I'd like to try a bottle or 2(whatever is needed for a cycle), hopefully for a week or 2 at least.

A week or two?. Come on. Think months.

 

[CJNator]

A week or two?. Come on. Think months.

Lol ok I'll be optimistic, like a month or 2!

 

[YouBet33]

I'm down for 3 months haha

 

[1kerry]

whats the price for TREST? BTW, how is trest impact on hairline? Have done hdrol cycles wihtout issues...thanks!

 

[Volvo140G]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-deals/272176-nutriverse-ol-uk.html

Hello old friend....

 

[zman86]

Just brought a bottle of tr3st, pretty good deal. What is a good bulking cycle with it?

 

[kboxer7]

Just brought a bottle of tr3st, pretty good deal. What is a good bulking cycle with it?

I'm sure others will chime in but Tr3st best shines as a test base for virtually any PH.

Though as you'll see in this thread, others have ran it solo with great success. If this is your plan, just be ready for Estro sides above 75mg with an AI on hand.

 

[CJNator]

I'm sure others will chime in but Tr3st best shines as a test base for virtually any PH.

Though as you'll see in this thread, others have ran it solo with great success. If this is your plan, just be ready for Estro sides above 75mg with an AI on hand.

Regular dosage if used as a test base I assume? Would 50mg be good if above 75mgs needs a AI? I would use this as a test base for my LGD run.

 

[kboxer7]

Regular dosage if used as a test base I assume? Would 50mg be good if above 75mgs needs a AI? I would use this as a test base for my LGD run.

I'm not a Tr3st expert, but I do know an AI should be ran alongside of LGD.

For LGD alone, El1minate (arimistane) would work just fine at anywhere from 50 - 100mg (depending on LGD dose) and with el1minate doses split twice daily due to half life.

Adding in Tr3st would add in an extra probability of Estro sides, so you might need something stronger if stacking the two....not sure, like I said, not a Tr3st expert and I'd rather have one of our other guys set you straight on that tbh.

 

[CJNator]

I'm not a Tr3st expert, but I do know an AI should be ran alongside of LGD.

For LGD alone, El1minate (arimistane) would work just fine at anywhere from 50 - 100mg (depending on LGD dose) and with el1minate doses split twice daily due to half life.

Adding in Tr3st would add in an extra probability of Estro sides, so you might need something stronger if stacking the two....not sure, like I said, not a Tr3st expert and I'd rather have one of our other guys set you straight on that tbh.

I've never has estro issues or lethargy from LGD, the his best I've ran it was 10mgs. If I do get tr3st I will look into AIs to use along side.

 

[Joedoubledose]

Talked to Yates today about tr3st , it aromatize a pretty good so use exemestane at 12.5 mg eod starting 10 days in

 

[zman86]

I've read people running it as a T-base with SDMZ 2.0 or 3.0 but I'm not looking to run that many methyl compounds.

I was thinking maybe epi-tren or straight up t-var.

 

[CJNator]

Re: SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

Talked to Yates today about tr3st , it aromatize a pretty good so use exemestane at 12.5 mg eod starting 10 days in

Ok I can get that, how about the dosage if im using it as a test base; would it be the same as of I was going to run it solo?

 

[Joedoubledose]

That was in reference to running it at I believe 50 mg

 

[yates84]

Ok I can get that, how about the dosage if im using it as a test base; would it be the same as of I was going to run it solo?

50mg to 75mg is a great test base. 75mg and up is gain city on trest. If I was running trest solo it would be at 100mg and I would have exemestane ready to dose

 

[uubiduu]

Will you send the TD trest to your UK retailers too?

 

[yates84]

Will you send the TD trest to your UK retailers too?

You uk guys are going to be straight here in the next few weeks, if you only knew what we are about to hit you guys with...

 

[Weathermark]

Nutraverse is $80. Is that with the 20% off?

 

[yates84]

Nutraverse is $80. Is that with the 20% off?

Nope. 20% comes off the 80$.

 

[Weathermark]

What's the coupon code for that?

 

[yates84]

What's the coupon code for that?

TREST20

 

[Weathermark]

One more thing.... Do you know or anybody know if trest will show up on my DOC blood work as steroids? I know sarms don't. They would have e to specifically test for that, correct?

 

[yates84]

One more thing.... Do you know or anybody know if trest will show up on my DOC blood work as steroids? I know sarms don't. They would have e to specifically test for that, correct?

Correct. You taking a standard 5 panel drug screen? No worries unless they are specifically testing for aas

 

[Weathermark]

You're the best Yates! Always have an answer

 

[DonnieM]

You uk guys are going to be straight here in the next few weeks, if you only knew what we are about to hit you guys with...

H-to-the-alo?

 

[yates84]

H-to-the-alo?

You will have to wait and find out

 

[Weathermark]

Is purity solutions legit? I ordered days ago and can't seem to get ahold of anyone to check my status.

 

[vujade]

Is purity solutions legit? I ordered days ago and can't seem to get ahold of anyone to check my status.

They are, but their customer service is slow as dirt. And they've had to shut down before to try to fix their internal issues.
But the lab rats do enjoy their research items....

 

[Shin Sprints]

Just order two bottles...and didn't use the 20% discount code...oh well my bad.

Currently stocking up on products, never ran anything like these products but looking to run something for 6-8 weeks starting in October...would be nice to have a few stack options

 

[Hastur]

I'm not a Tr3st expert, but I do know an AI should be ran alongside of LGD.

For LGD alone, El1minate (arimistane) would work just fine at anywhere from 50 - 100mg (depending on LGD dose) and with el1minate doses split twice daily due to half life.

Adding in Tr3st would add in an extra probability of Estro sides, so you might need something stronger if stacking the two....not sure, like I said, not a Tr3st expert and I'd rather have one of our other guys set you straight on that tbh.

Who said LGD had estrogenic side effects requiring an AI of any degree? I mean, I always recommend having an AI on hnad, but LGD has never been associated with bloat, water retention, or estrogenic side effects to the best of my knowledge.

 

[yates84]

Who said LGD had estrogenic side effects requiring an AI of any degree? I mean, I always recommend having an AI on hnad, but LGD has never been associated with bloat, water retention, or estrogenic side effects to the best of my knowledge.

Never heard of estro sides from lgd, just lethargy

 

[AndrewMcD]

Never heard of estro sides from lgd, just lethargy

Yo Yates. Just wondering why do you recommend 2 pills of Eliminate a day in your LGD protocol you posted?

LGD example cycle:
Beginner
LGD 4/4/4/8/8/8
OL Eliminate 2/2/2/2/2/2
PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25
OL Super PCT as indicated on label
AI of choice on hand

 

[yates84]

Yo Yates. Just wondering why do you recommend 2 pills of Eliminate a day in your LGD protocol you posted?

LGD example cycle:
Beginner
LGD 4/4/4/8/8/8
OL Eliminate 2/2/2/2/2/2
PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25
OL Super PCT as indicated on label
AI of choice on hand

Eliminate is good for more than just estrogen control. It also controls cortisol and I like the lean dry look that is associated with it. Eliminate is a cheap way to get a little extra out of your cycle. It's nice to have estrogen a little low when you transition into pct as well since low estrogen helps trigger testosterone production

 

[mixedup]

yates84. For Ghar1ne how much do recommend for someone who's run peptides or actual hgh before

 

[yates84]

yates84. For Ghar1ne how much do recommend for someone who's run peptides or actual hgh before

I would still tell you to start at 1 cap and go up 1 cap at a time to assess tolerance. I thought I was used to mk677 and dosed 20mg of gharine when I first got my bottle and it put me on my ass. Go up slow imo

 

[AndrewMcD]

Eliminate is good for more than just estrogen control. It also controls cortisol and I like the lean dry look that is associated with it. Eliminate is a cheap way to get a little extra out of your cycle. It's nice to have estrogen a little low when you transition into pct as well since low estrogen helps trigger testosterone production

Thanks bro!

 

[kboxer7]

Never heard of estro sides from lgd, just lethargy

Yates my man...

This is a quote directly from your SARMS guide. You're the boss when it comes to SARMS so I was just going off of your advice. Possibly I'm misunderstanding something here?

YOUR QUOTE:

LGD 4033 - a SARM like Ostarine, but 12 times as powerful at only 1/3 the dose! Consequently, this makes it more suppressive to the HPTA. So, a SERM post cycle therapy is recommended. LGD has proven itself as a good bulking agent, where Ostarine is better used in a cutting cycle. LGD has a half life ranging between 24 and 36 hours. So, once daily dosing is optimal. A study performed at Boston University showed that healthy men who were given 1mg of LGD daily gained, on average, about 3 pounds in 3 weeks. No clinically significant changes in liver function tests, PSA (prostate issue/functions test), hematocrit, or ECG were seen or noted. Due to the possibility of high estrogen sides while using LGD, it is recommended that you have an AI, like Exemestane, on hand.

 

[yates84]

Yates my man...

This is a quote directly from your SARMS guide. You're the boss when it comes to SARMS so I was just going off of your advice. Possibly I'm misunderstanding something here?

YOUR QUOTE:

LGD 4033 - a SARM like Ostarine, but 12 times as powerful at only 1/3 the dose! Consequently, this makes it more suppressive to the HPTA. So, a SERM post cycle therapy is recommended. LGD has proven itself as a good bulking agent, where Ostarine is better used in a cutting cycle. LGD has a half life ranging between 24 and 36 hours. So, once daily dosing is optimal. A study performed at Boston University showed that healthy men who were given 1mg of LGD daily gained, on average, about 3 pounds in 3 weeks. No clinically significant changes in liver function tests, PSA (prostate issue/functions test), hematocrit, or ECG were seen or noted. Due to the possibility of high estrogen sides while using LGD, it is recommended that you have an AI, like Exemestane, on hand.

Anything that attaches to the androgen receptor has the possibility of in turn raising estrogen. I have never heard of anyone getting gyno from lgd but I would still have an ai like exemestane on hand no matter what. Sorry for any confusion but my guides and dosing are going to always be on the cautious side.

 

[kboxer7]

Anything that attaches to the androgen receptor has the possibility of in turn raising estrogen. I have never heard of anyone getting gyno from lgd but I would still have an ai like exemestane on hand no matter what. Sorry for any confusion but my guides and dosing are going to always be on the cautious side.

No problem man, just following your lead. That explanation clears up any confusion. Thanks.

 

[Joedoubledose]

Eliminate is also gonna raise LH , there's allot of benefit besides just estrogen control as Yates said

 

[CJNator]

That was in reference to running it at I believe 50 mg

Ok thanks, I feel letrone would be strong enough to combat those sides since it had been used to combat estro sides in other people's gear runs.

 

[Toren]

Ok thanks, I feel letrone would be strong enough to combat those sides since it had been used to combat estro sides in other people's gear runs.

It might be but I would hope you would have some Aromasin on hand just in case. Some people need letro for Trest while others can probably get away without much of an AI at all, when the Trest dose is low. I've never had to deal with Estro sides but suprisingly there are people here who sniff a bottle of Ostarine and get itchy nips etc. Unfortunately most of those people probably didn't do their due diligence and therefore didn't know they had a pre-existing condition that was not at all favorable to messing with their hormones to begin with.

Never had Estro sides but I always have a bottle of Aromasin in the cupboard.

Excited to try Tr3st in the winter!

 

[T-Bone]

Toren you're making me want Pizza again, and I just finished eating a 16oz rib eye!

 

[Toren]

You should have seen the XL thin crust with ex. cheese. pepperoni and green peppers that I ate Wednesday night. Trying to put this GW to the test in PCT.

And that reminds me, I have a 12oz NY Strip steak hiding in the back of the freezer.

 

[mixedup]

Ok thanks, I feel letrone would be strong enough to combat those sides since it had been used to combat estro sides in other people's gear runs.

It could be but than again do you want to find out its not enough???

 

[CJNator]

It could be but than again do you want to find out its not enough???

That is true, but a good amount of people have used it on very wet compounds and it proved to be effective.

 

[yates84]

That is true, but a good amount of people have used it on very wet compounds and it proved to be effective.

Better have exemestane on hand

 

[NewAgeMayan]

That is true, but a good amount of people have used it on very wet compounds and it proved to be effective.

You gonna jump straight in at 2cap?

 

[mixedup]

That is true, but a good amount of people have used it on very wet compounds and it proved to be effective.

You know me I run a ton of wet compounds more than most I know jd tested it for brundel and I know what he was running. But trest just hits me extremely hard maybe because it converts to methyl estrogen