I remember you arguing with Cooper and I on another forum that CEE was superior to creatine monohydrate (or effective at all), so perhaps your physique is in spite of your supplement choices, not because of them.Im taking King, not sure about you
I remember you arguing with Cooper and I on another forum that CEE was superior to creatine monohydrate (or effective at all), so perhaps your physique is in spite of your supplement choices, not because of them.Im taking King, not sure about you
Bro, we get it, you are taking King and you like to post picture of whatever the heck the dudes are.Im taking King, not sure about you
Speak of the devil; as soon as I mention CEE, he's talking about it again in another thread.I remember you arguing with Cooper and I on another forum that CEE was superior to creatine monohydrate (or effective at all), so perhaps your physique is in spite of your supplement choices, not because of them.
If I dose it pre workout (with a meal because it appears people are complaining its tough to eat normal) should I do it with a fattier meal? I usually make some proats about an hour-1.5hrs before I lift I could just add a couple table spoons into that since I throw PB in there (20-25g fat)2 tbsp is 15g serving which contains 1200mg PA (fearns lecithin granules).
Dose pre-workout (30-180 minutes) and on off days dose with a fatty meal.
Have you tried it on its own? Ive maybe had trouble once and thats might not have been from sl. a few tubs later no issues. I normally try to stay 30-45 mins from hitting the gym.If I dose it pre workout (with a meal because it appears people are complaining its tough to eat normal) should I do it with a fattier meal? I usually make some proats about an hour-1.5hrs before I lift I could just add a couple table spoons into that since I throw PB in there (20-25g fat)
After reading this thread im actually surprised I havent heard the "OMG dont take this soy is gonna raise your Estrogen levels like crazy"
Out of all the granule products Ive tried Fearn is easily the best tasting. Some have complained, but many find no issue with it at all (and actually enjoy it).nope im brand new to PA actually going to be buying 2-3 tubs of the Fearn brand soon and run it along side my ARA
CEE is worse than regular mono. And im not bias as SNS sold CEESpeak of the devil; as soon as I mention CEE, he's talking about it again in another thread.
This is popping up a lot all the sudden. Are there that many companies still producing CEE?CEE is worse than regular mono. And im not bias as SNS sold CEE
I didn't think so, but I remember some troll bringing it up on another forum, and TheFugitive argued for CEE over mono because it dissolves better in water (which is the same reason he prefers King over lecithin apparently). I feel like I'm beating a dead horse arguing about it though; I thought CEE died off a while ago.This is popping up a lot all the sudden. Are there that many companies still producing CEE?
Agreed, and it should have.I didn't think so, but I remember some troll bringing it up on another forum, and TheFugitive argued for CEE over mono because it dissolves better in water (which is the same reason he prefers King over lecithin apparently). I feel like I'm beating a dead horse arguing about it though; I thought CEE died off a while ago.
Yep. Sometimes I wonder why we even bother to respond to TheFug's comments about PA. It's pretty obvious that he isn't interested in the science behind PA, or apparently creatine.Agreed, and it should have.
Misinformation management; no-one wants to see noobs, lurkers, or anyone else misinformed.Sometimes I wonder why we even bother to respond to TheFug's comments about PA.
Count me inYep. Sometimes I wonder why we even bother to respond to TheFug's comments about PA. It's pretty obvious that he isn't interested in the science behind PA, or apparently creatine.
Anyway, I'm interested in getting that lecithin powder sample. If it's good, which it should be, I just need to find a few people to split the order with.
So it mixes better in a cup? but considering none of it gets used, you just end up drinking ****ty tasting water.I didn't think so, but I remember some troll bringing it up on another forum, and TheFugitive argued for CEE over mono because it dissolves better in water (which is the same reason he prefers King over lecithin apparently). I feel like I'm beating a dead horse arguing about it though; I thought CEE died off a while ago.
Look man, there's noting you can teach me about the science of PA or Creatine. I do this for a living. Your so focused on my posts you don't even read into them. You continue to say I don't understand the science behind PA because I won't release the amount of PA in King. I told you on numerous occasions, it's not up to me it's up to Activator. I believe Chris told you the same thing.Yep. Sometimes I wonder why we even bother to respond to TheFug's comments about PA. It's pretty obvious that he isn't interested in the science behind PA, or apparently creatine.
Anyway, I'm interested in getting that lecithin powder sample. If it's good, which it should be, I just need to find a few people to split the order with.
You guys are really reaching nowSo it mixes better in a cup? but considering none of it gets used, you just end up drinking ****ty tasting water.
You guys are basing my knowledge on PA because I won't disclose the amount of it in King, bloody brilliant!I'm pretty sure it's clear myscleupcrohn gives this log more then enough proof that he understands the science behind PA much more then you by your lack of information and excessive picture posting . Clearly you don't know the PA contents in King. Simple. This whole log has basically dismissed you and turned to looking at the best possible way in taking SL , which brands contain what, and so forth. We don't care about overpriced suppliments with less benefit then a product we can but at a grocery store that has much more to offer for extremely cheap . Why is this so hard to understand ? If you want to be a rep make a new post about king or is it really that much work for you to promo somewhere else?
I need to disagree on this TOTALY.Look man, there's noting you can teach me about the science of PA or Creatine
This is incorrect too!!You guys are basing my knowledge on PA because I won't disclose the amount of it in King, bloody brilliant!
I'm not saying you don't understand the science behind PA because you won't release the amount of PA in King/Activator; that is another issue entirely. You are either not aware of the science behind PA, or, more likely, intentionally ignoring it to push product, not when you don't tell how much PA is in King/Activator, but when you tell me that 750mg PA from Activator (assuming it's 750mg) is more effective than 750mg (or even much more PA) from lecithin granules, that concentrated PA is somehow inherently more effective than non-concentrated PA (even with equal or greater doses of PA from a non-concentrated source) because it mixes better/clearer in water (the same thing you told me when we were talking about CEE, by the way), etc... The list goes on and on, but I think it's clear enough to anyone reading this. Frankly, the fact that you "do this for a living" is entirely irrelevant here. If I'm being entirely honest, I'd say that you are aware of the science behind PA, but you chose to ignore and/or argue against it in an attempt to sell more King, since THAT, selling product, is truly what your job is all about at the end of the day.Look man, there's noting you can teach me about the science of PA or Creatine. I do this for a living. Your so focused on my posts you don't even read into them. You continue to say I don't understand the science behind PA because I won't release the amount of PA in King. I told you on numerous occasions, it's not up to me it's up to Activator. I believe Chris told you the same thing.
Thank you very much.I'm pretty sure it's clear myscleupcrohn gives this log more then enough proof that he understands the science behind PA much more then you by your lack of information and excessive picture posting . Clearly you don't know the PA contents in King. Simple. This whole log has basically dismissed you and turned to looking at the best possible way in taking SL , which brands contain what, and so forth. We don't care about overpriced suppliments with less benefit then a product we can but at a grocery store that has much more to offer for extremely cheap . Why is this so hard to understand ? If you want to be a rep make a new post about king or is it really that much work for you to promo somewhere else?
This. Hell, Chris hasn't tried to disregard/ignore/contradict science to push King, and even the MT reps are conceding that the lecithin granules work, instead pushing their PA product based on ease/convenience, less chance of stomach upset, exact doses, and research-supported Mediator. While the last two are largely irrelevant, at least MT is playing up the benefits of their product, and not making things up and posting stock photos and clip art...This is incorrect too!!
On all PA threads you were disagreed on the effect from Soy Lecithin and was pimping KING v2. You said it must be the placebo. You are giving a damn sh.. in the science. Stop pimping a product where BPI customers dont know how much PA they are getting.
From the beginning you were bashing Soy L. and you have shown the side where me and other really dont like/liked at all.
You are the ONLY rep who tried to come with incorrect information about PA/Soy lecithin. And that is telling me and other pretty much.
I have nothing personal against you.You guys are basing my knowledge on PA because I won't disclose the amount of it in King, bloody brilliant!
I never bashed PA caps either.This. Hell, Chris hasn't tried to disregard/ignore/contradict science to push King, and even the MT reps are conceding that the lecithin granules work, instead pushing their PA product based on ease/convenience, less chance of stomach upset, exact doses, and research-supported Mediator. While the last two are largely irrelevant, at least MT is playing up the benefits of their product, and not making things up and posting stock photos and clip art...
I agree. I've also been saying that caps can be very beneficial, and that I also plan on having a supply of them for when taking the granules wouldn't be practical.I never bashed PA caps either.
Allways said Caps have an important place in the supplement industry due to stomach issues some are getting with SL, less calories, traveling with caps is easier etc.etc.
I personaly Use caps AND Soy Lecithin right now for even higher PA doses and its working GREAT. My pics dont lie either.
But I really find it funny when some reps are bashing other things for no resson and then pushing their stuff.
Well said. I don't want this thread getting de-railed by Fugi and us arguing with him, that's probably exactly what he wants, as it will take the focus off of legitimate, valuable PA discussion, which, at this point, is focusing basically exclusively on soy lecithin products.Ultimately hes a rep tryna move product. But this is AM and we dont subscribe to the bs. Links to studies, product testing, etc is all regular protocol on here.
I have no prob with king, never tried it, but i would and prob will and compare it to sl, but in absolutely no way is sl subpar by any means as far as PA goes. And ultimately the arguments and stupid memes really just take away from the overal pourpose of this thread: PA, not the brand names etc. Just PA and how to use it.
Totaly agree.Well said. I don't want this thread getting de-railed by Fugi and us arguing with him, that's probably exactly what he wants, as it will take the focus off of legitimate, valuable PA discussion, which, at this point, is focusing basically exclusively on soy lecithin products.
I suggest that we all just ignore Fugi's posts ITT and continue business as usual with our PA discussion.
this:biggthumpup:This is incorrect too!!
On all PA threads you were disagreed on the effect from Soy Lecithin and was pimping KING v2. You said it must be the placebo. You are giving a damn sh.. in the science. Stop pimping a product where BPI customers dont know how much PA they are getting.
From the beginning you were bashing Soy L. and you have shown the side where me and other really dont like/liked at all.
You are the ONLY rep who tried to come with incorrect information about PA/Soy lecithin. And that is telling me and other pretty much.
This!To me, it is the long term benefits of supping with PA which are the most, well, beneficial. The beauty here of soyl granule supplementation is that we can be relatively confident that long term continual use is not only safe, but actually preferrable if we are to maximally reap its benefits
I think if soyl had a tagline it would be something like "For the price? Why the fukc not!"just bought some soy lecithin!!!!
you guys need to sell cars, lol!!!
You are not taking everyday?I'm curious to see when I start to notice anything out of a 2 tbsp per day dose. Does everyone here take it every day?
Congratsjust bought some soy lecithin!!!!
you guys need to sell cars, lol!!!
Just started today . Do you recommend it every day?You are not taking everyday?
Sweet!I'm curious to see when I start to notice anything out of a 2 tbsp per day dose. Does everyone here take it every day?
No stomach discomfort so far
If I can find cars to sell for a quarter a day, I'm sure I can sell the hell out of them.just bought some soy lecithin!!!!
you guys need to sell cars, lol!!!
i can't see there being much of a profit margin, lol!!!If I can find cars to sell for a quarter a day, I'm sure I can sell the hell out of them.
Or this:I think if soyl had a tagline it would be something like "For the price? Why the fukc not!"
I would recommend EVERYONE to take it everyday.Just started today . Do you recommend it every day?
I concur. Even without a physical stressor, oral PA supplementation is able to increase PA and LPA levels (1.5g PA was used, which is certainly a realistic, easily achievable amount using soy lecithin). Unlike concentrated PA supplements, which seem to be at least $2 per day (the ones that list 750mg), lecithin is so cheap that there's no real reason not to take it every day. I don't think about 100 calories and <10g fat a day is going to deter too many people either.I would recommend EVERYONE to take it everyday.
Even if it works even better with physical stressor such as training , It is "active" without physical stessor/s and there is a study showing that.
Take it everyday
I love my 4g of PA .and EVERYDAY!I concur. Even without a physical stressor, oral PA supplementation is able to increase PA and LPA levels (1.5g PA was used, which is certainly a realistic, easily achievable amount using soy lecithin). Unlike concentrated PA supplements, which seem to be at least $2 per day (the ones that list 750mg), lecithin is so cheap that there's no real reason not to take it every day. I don't think about 100 calories and <10g fat a day is going to deter too many people either.
Thats my boy3g PA PreWO ALLLL DAAYYYYY