Thank you.
Not being a dick, i am obviously thankfull for this answer and was actually the answer i was hoping for. Though from a sales representative point, i understand this would be your answer..
Could you tell me why, to your knowledge, i dont need to take a time off and why this would be a good supplementation next to nolva? Since nolva blocks the estrogen receptors and stimulates the increase of natural testosterone, doesn't Formeron do the same but from a different approach? Or would there be a significant benifit from Formeron's act as a 5-alpha reductase inhibito and increase of IGF-1?
It would actually be my answer either way. I would never recommend you do something I thought was not the right thing to do regardless of which or whos supps they are. Its not how I roll. I understand your position though.
There are several goals with regards to a proper PCT.
1. increase your natural testosterone production. The faster the better.
SERMS and AI's will both elevate test levels.
2. Manage estrogen levels. After PCT you want estrogen to be in the low normal range. This is very important.
A SERM will do nothing to manage estrogen. In fact it will almost certainly rise.
3. Ensure that after PCT your test levels remain high. If it rises during PCT but drops steeply after you stop the PCT supps/drugs the PCT fails.
So how do we do these things.
A SERM in...sort of ultra simple terms tricks the body/brain into thinking estrogen is low. It binds to estrogen receptors but has little or no action there.
So the brain senses low estrogen and sends the leutinizing hormone signal to the testicles so test production will increase.
The reason this happens is a negative feedback loop. In males estrogen is made primarily from testosterone. So....to make more estrogen you need more test. For this reason when estro is low test levels generally rise.
Ok. Great so you use a serm and test levels rise. Again though, estrogen is made from test. As test rises estrogen does concurrently and at a similar rate.
SERMS do NOT lower estrogen levels.
So after you stop the SERM your test levels may be elevated but so will estrogen. Perhaps alarmingly high. (think delayed gyno) Sometimes both test and estrogen can be elevated out of normal ranges. Unfortunately the body responds to elevated estrogen by stopping test production to prevent more estrogen from being made.
So
General rule=
high estro=dropping test.
Low estro= rising test.
For this reason you need an AI during PCT.
The SERM will raise test levels and the AI will prevent estrogen from also rising or at least from getting out of control.
If you have used an AI and a SERM your post PCT levels should be-
Test high normal or above
Estrogen low normal or below.
This way as the body seeks homeostasis estro will slightly rise and test will slightly drop and youll wind up with both in the proper range.
SERM only....often is unsuccessful. Keeping in mind that it doesnt matter if after 4 weeks your test levels are high if 4 weeks later they are low.
Also common is post PCT gyno symptoms as estrogen levels are super high from not being managed during PCT.
SERM and AI- perfect.
As for the bridge.
If you run it at a low level it will help to keep test levels up and estrogen down. There is no suppression at the doses we are talking about so there is no reason not to if you choose. To be fair the whole point of coming off is to let endocrine levels return to normal so generally speaking a "bridge" is a poor idea. In this case, however, Formeron is non suppressive and will only serve to further solidify your PCT and gains.
I dont see any reason to start the AI any other time than the beginning of PCT or during the cycle and continued through PCT.
In my opinion there is no reason to wait to start. No scientific reason at least.