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reps4jesus said:
It seems like every time the sns reps get in these threads sh!t heats up quick. Lmao I for one would love to see the blood work between the two products. Loser has to put their product on sale? :D
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All products are already available for sale at retailers my friend
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Is cool with hundred LB deadlift increases and genetically altered myostatin animals being used to advertise an unknown prop blend product. But questions a whey protein product. #irony
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Way to misrepresent my stance in this thread. I already said that I don't believe Brundel is saying "you WILL experience a 100lb deadlift increase," but rather he reported ONE user's experience. You seem to have failed to pick up on that in both cases. Questioning a USP Labs release based on past experiences and what later came to be known about issues that came from some of their other recent releases was neither prescient nor merely inquisitive?
 
reps4jesus said:
It seems like every time the sns reps get in these threads sh!t heats up quick. Lmao I for one would love to see the blood work between the two products. Loser has to put their product on sale? :D
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Funny how that is, huh?

My $hit heated up REAL quick thanks to the intestine-bending effects of their flagship product.
 
reps4jesus said:
It seems like every time the sns reps get in these threads sh!t heats up quick. Lmao I for one would love to see the blood work between the two products. Loser has to put their product on sale? :D
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Like I said I am up for it . The guys at Baylor University or College of Charleston could conduct it
 
Piston Honda said:
Way to misrepresent my stance in this thread. I already said that I don't believe Brundel is saying "you WILL experience a 100lb deadlift increase," but rather he reported ONE user's experience. You seem to have failed to pick up on that in both cases. Questioning a USP Labs release based on past experiences and what later came to be known about issues that came from some of their other recent releases was neither prescient not merely inquisitive?
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Unnamed testers report that taking X-gels made them gain 10 lbs of lean muscle in 4 days, and gain 200 lbs on their deadlift in a week.Therefore X-gels is great.You should buy X-gels.--You don't see a problem with that sort of marketing?
 
Piston Honda said:
I have used Brundel's products before. They always do what they claim to do. He has earned my benefit of doubt on this one due to his track record.

SNS' flagship product, Focus XT, was thrown out twice by me due to it being marketed as a nootropic blend, when in actuality it should have been marketed as a laxative.
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You have been around long enough to know that some ingreds effect users differently. For the VAST majority fxt is a great nootropic
 
De__eB said:
Unnamed testers report that taking X-gels made them gain 10 lbs of lean muscle in 4 days, and gain 200 lbs on their deadlift in a week.Therefore X-gels is great.You should buy X-gels.--You don't see a problem with that sort of marketing?
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Maybe that's because they had your original misleading and mislabeled x-gel bottles. Quality control: if you can't label a bottle correctly, do you expect me to trust what's IN the bottle?
 
Piston Honda said:
Funny how that is, huh?

My $hit heated up REAL quick thanks to the intestine-bending effects of their flagship product.
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And you state as much in every thread possible.

You blame us for stirring, yet you stir in every thread possible. Look at your forum history. You thrive off this so dont act like us SNS reps have it in for everyone when your history shows you do the same thing thing you are accusing us of.

Skepticism on the boards should be welcomed. The product can then speak for itself.
 
If only I still repped MAN, that might sting. But at least your dogpile on Brundel's product has been diverted for a bit.



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Piston Honda said:
Maybe that's because they had your original misleading and mislabeled x-gel bottles. Quality control: if you can't label a bottle correctly, do you expect me to trust what's IN the bottle?
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The product was made according to X first label. The label has been changed 3 times by them(wrote 3 different ways);)
 
Piston Honda said:
If only I still repped MAN, that might sting. But at least your dogpile on Brundel's product has been diverted for a bit.
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So then, you're admitting that you were basically shilling hardcore for products that don't work as long as they were willing to give you free product?

Interesting credibility you've got going for you.
 
I dont dount Brundels test subjects experienced what they claimed, but it all being due to this product?

Theres a thread on BB.com where one guy saw a 45lb increase on his seated row after using a pre workout.

There are many others of people using buffered creatine and experiencing roid like gains.

Do.we actually think the Creatine is what made them strong and huge? Did a pre workout actually increase someones strength by 45lbs?

Im not knocking Brundels product here, so lets make that clear, im just skeptical of these claims being solely due to the product.
 
I'm saying I don't care about whatever insults you hurl toward MAN Sports. I really don't even care what insults you hurl my way. If it makes you happy, please continue.
 
De__eB said:
Unnamed testers report that taking X-gels made them gain 10 lbs of lean muscle in 4 days, and gain 200 lbs on their deadlift in a week.Therefore X-gels is great.You should buy X-gels.--You don't see a problem with that sort of marketing?
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Sold, I'll take xgels
 
De__eB said:
Unnamed testers report that taking X-gels made them gain 10 lbs of lean muscle in 4 days, and gain 200 lbs on their deadlift in a week.Therefore X-gels is great.You should buy X-gels.--You don't see a problem with that sort of marketing?
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Good thing I already bought 4 bottles :D
 
Already using Xgels, one of the best products I've ever used.

Great read in this thread btw (=
 
Does anyone here follow BBC's comp. ITV's series Mr. Selfridge?
 
Piston Honda said:
Funny how that is, huh? My $hit heated up REAL quick thanks to the intestine-bending effects of their flagship product.
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Probably because we are some of the few members that actually question products rather than jumping directly on company's dicks when a new product comes out.
 
warbird01 said:
Probably because we are some of the few members that actually question products rather than jumping directly on company's dicks when a new product comes out.
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Yet when I questioned a USP claim, Royd found that odd. Go figure.
 
I'm cool with trying a product from a formulator who's been actively answering questions about this product. I'm also cool with trying a product from a guy who makes products that have always done what they claimed.

I enjoy your DHEA products also
 
mw1 said:
Like raise test 700%???.....right
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Maybe SNS should release an estrogen modulator...or something for menstrual cramps. Very bitchy in this thread; hope it's not a company problem...although a couple of the SNS guys I keep in contact with don't exhibit those symptoms.
 
Piston Honda said:
I'm cool with trying a product from a formulator who's been actively answering questions about this product. I'm also cool with trying a product from a guy who makes products that have always done what they claimed.

I enjoy your DHEA products also
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Is this your official application to rep for brundel's company?
 
Boom goes the dynamite in the company promotions thread. I was enjoying the debate until I seen that the in house testers were on AAS. I have nothing against the company here, but that is a horrible way to test a "natural anabolic." At the same time I'm shocked to the admittance.
 
rob112 said:
Boom goes the dynamite in the company promotions thread. I was enjoying the debate until I seen that the in house testers were on AAS. I have nothing against the company here, but that is a horrible way to test a "natural anabolic." At the same time I'm shocked to the admittance.
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Wait, users noticed gains, while on AAS? Lol
 
rob112 said:
Boom goes the dynamite in the company promotions thread. I was enjoying the debate until I seen that the in house testers were on AAS. I have nothing against the company here, but that is a horrible way to test a "natural anabolic." At the same time I'm shocked to the admittance.
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So if a guy is on test and he adds tren and his bench press goes up it cant be the tren right.
 
Im on test currently. Why isnt my Bench press or dead lift significantly improving?
Because Im ALWAYS on test.
Just like the testers.
So if I add something new and things change its not magical gear increase its the new compound.

But you guys dont know this because you guys run ARA and creatine cycles.
 
brundel said:
Im on test currently. Why isnt my Bench press or dead lift significantly improving?
Because Im ALWAYS on test.
Just like the testers.
So if I add something new and things change its not magical gear increase its the new compound.

But you guys dont know this because you guys run ARA and creatine cycles.
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No I don't run gear, personally prefer to be natty. Any testers not on gear? (Serious question, interested in the compound)
 
brundel said:
So if a guy is on test and he adds tren and his bench press goes up it cant be the tren right.
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That sounds like a great argument to you, and other people using test. I have nothing against test as every one of the people I look up to in my sport are on something or other. That all said, saying this natural anabolic is great, ask the guys on AAS we tested it on has around the same merit as BPI putting up a poster of Jay Cutler saying "this is the creatine I use" to demonstrate the creatines value.

Maybe Jay does use it, and maybe your testers did notice these things, but my point stands 100%; that is a horrible way to run an in house test, especially being proclaimed a NATURAL anabolic.
 
brundel said:
This is an easy solve.

Again, Ill put Prolactrone up against inhibit p.
We can run a test with bloodwork to test prolactin levels.

If my product doesnt perform better Ill take it off the market.
If inhibit P doesnt perform better SNS removes inhibit P.

Bloodwork beats bull**** all day long.
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mw1 said:
Sure I would be up for the challenge if it was a controlled trial with a 3rd party administering it
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mw1 said:
Like I said I am up for it . The guys at Baylor University or College of Charleston could conduct it
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brundel said:
I actually posted bloodwork for this but with SNS only bullS and parroting is real.
You guys need to get jobs aside from being jackasses.
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'Lets get this going then
 
brundel said:
It would be fine now if they "SNS reps" would 1. stay the f out of our company forums and 2. refrain from insulting our integrity.
So, it can stop here.

Or we can continue. I took the whole weekend off.
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1)We have stayed out of your subsection..this is the supplement section
2)insulting your integrity???? now that's funny
 
BPjohn123 said:
No I don't run gear, personally prefer to be natty. Any testers not on gear? (Serious question, interested in the compound)
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Of 10, 6 are on full time HRT. So...some steroid base.

2 were full swing mid cycles. multiple compounds. 1 bulk 1 prepping for a show.

4 were currently clean.

1 has never used anything but protein and creatine. This is the guy who gained 10lbs.

The big numbers were varied between the group with the least response seen in the heavy users, not entirely sure why. These numbers I didnt even post anywhere so its sort of a moot point.
If there wasnt significant response from non AAS users I wouldnt likely be saying it worked so well.

Again though having test on board for a pro bodybuilder is clean as their body doesnt make test on its own.
Im on test, if I took (-)-epi and my strength increased as much as it did in the testers 100% it was the epi.
 
mw1 said:
1)We have stayed out of your subsection..this is the supplement section
2)insulting your integrity???? now that's funny
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You actually have not. You were in our forums running your mouth just a couple weeks ago.
Correct?
So just like in our forums every word you say is a lie.
 
brundel said:
You actually have not. You were in our forums running your mouth just a couple weeks ago.
Correct?
So just like in our forums every word you say is a lie.
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If you look at the PM I sent you at 2:21 today I explained I did not realize I was posting in your subsection cause I was posting in a subbed thread that had been moved.

BTW did you ever get any post production testing on any of your products to show compliance?
 
BPjohn123 said:
Is this your official application to rep for brundel's company?
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I kind of like being unaffiliated; no filter on my take on other companies/products. And he's doing pretty well basically on his own
 
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