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Best & Worst of 2013

aaronuconn said:
It's more of just a respect thing - no need to trash other reps products as it will turn into some tangent argument.
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This exactly. I think a lot of times if you have a view on a product that isn't as positive as it could be, and you're in a position where you are representing a company that's competing for the same market, it's better not to trash the other company. It seems more biased to post your "worst" than it does to post your "best" IMHO.
 
While I believe most of the reps here give unbiased recommendations I suggest a new thread titled: Best and worst of 2013 / NO REPS.

No disrespect intended Reps. But when a rep recommends a product of the competition it can be seen as more credible whether it's unbiased or not.
 
rphash49 said:
While I believe most of the reps here give unbiased recommendations I suggest a new thread titled: Best and worst of 2013 / NO REPS. No disrespect intended Reps. But when a rep recommends a product of the competition it can be seen as more credible whether it's unbiased or not.
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And turn this forum into the other one?

Reps are not pimps. We are users who, because of our extensive usage of the product, are uniquely qualified to recommend the product. I guess it always boils down to whether or not you trust a rep for any company or not. Whether that company is Apple, Sony, General Motors, etc.
 
Piston Honda said:
And turn this forum into the other one?

Reps are not pimps. We are users who, because of our extensive usage of the product, are uniquely qualified to recommend the product. I guess it always boils down to whether or not you trust a rep for any company or not. Whether that company is Apple, Sony, General Motors, etc.
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I don't disagree with you at all, the extensive usage of the products that you represent does put you in the unique position.

With the companies you mentioned say you are on a laptop forum and the thread is "best laptop of 2013" and Sony rep says Sony and apple rep say apple, etc. How credible is it? Anyway

Not trying to make a big deal about. I don't really care honestly just a simple observation.

For the record:

Best supps I used in 2013: Alphamine, SNS creatine mono, focus xt

Worst: I'd rather not say lol... Tempting tho

What I look forward to using in 2014:
Man PF3 and iron legion xi-11(per coop it's natty)
 
Piston Honda said:
And turn this forum into the other one?

Reps are not pimps. We are users who, because of our extensive usage of the product, are uniquely qualified to recommend the product. I guess it always boils down to whether or not you trust a rep for any company or not. Whether that company is Apple, Sony, General Motors, etc.
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I have been a member of the boards for well over a decade under a different handle. I am going to safely assume, as it always turns out, that most reps on this board are nothing but skinny kids over pimping products to try and feel good about themselves and make themselves feel like they are someone in the "Fitness world". This is absolutely not true about all of them, but from the things I have learned over the years about the people behind the keyboards, I would not be shocked.
 
Best: X-Gels, CREignite, PES Select, White Flood Pineapple

Worst: End of production for SNS Citrulline Malate :(
 
B1LL1ST1C said:
Best: X-Gels, CREignite, PES Select, White Flood Pineapple

Worst: End of production for SNS Citrulline Malate :(
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^^ we have not DCed Citrulline Malate- we actually just ran another batch. :) Enjoy
I need to try the pineapple WF it seems to be a favorite
 
mw1 said:
^^ we have not DCed Citrulline Malate- we actually just ran another batch. :) Enjoy
I need to try the pineapple WF it seems to be a favorite
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And here I thought Christmas was over. Now that is some excellent news. Is it available for purchase yet? And yes, if given the opportunity WF Pineapple is good stuff. Def my favorite flavor in their lineup.
 
B1LL1ST1C said:
And here I thought Christmas was over. Now that is some excellent news. Is it available for purchase yet? And yes, if given the opportunity WF Pineapple is good stuff. Def my favorite flavor in their lineup.
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Yes its already shipped to most retailers
 
B1LL1ST1C said:
And here I thought Christmas was over. Now that is some excellent news. Is it available for purchase yet? And yes, if given the opportunity WF Pineapple is good stuff. Def my favorite flavor in their lineup.
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I have some WF Pineapple as well. Will give it a go in the future.
 
Best: I enjoyed Enhanced and White Flood v2 as prewo's. G8 is an awesome sleep supp. I love Anabeta but I don't believe that's a 2013 product.
 
Best: PF3, Enhanced (RIP)
Worst: Vasatropin (maybe not new 2013)

Don't really go for the new things until they've been out for a bit so I know if it's a waste of money or not.
 
Dirty Dan said:
Best product of 2013:
Hands down ARA
SNS X-Gels
Also really enjoyed Performax Powermax but that's no longer around so R.I.P.

Worst Product of 2013:
Can't really comment on because I don't frivolously spend my money on random supplements.

One supplement my stomach cannot handle and makes me a sad panda because of it, is F-95. (I'm not in anyway saying its a bad product or ineffective) I have tried it in Anabeta Elite and stand alone with Analyzed Supplements, for whatever reason my stomach cannot tolerate it. I seem to be able to handle a steady 25mg but as soon as I up my dose to 50mg or 75mg, after about 4 consecutive days of usage I get bad stomach issues.

All time favorite supps:
PES Anabeta
SNS ALCAR
Agmatine
Citrulline Malate

What I'm looking forward to trying in 2014:
New versions of PES erase and Anabeta
EBF's line of products
Performax alphamax and Fitmax
MN X-Factor and Peak Beta +
Antaeus Labs Products
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If you enjoyed powermax, keep your eyes open for some good news in the coming months :)
 
Best: Twisted Iron Supplements M1,4ADD

Worst: iForce Conquer... Can't take it anymore, it makes me puke all the time. And I'm not the only one. Liked Maximize V2 though.
 
rphash49 said:
While I believe most of the reps here give unbiased recommendations I suggest a new thread titled: Best and worst of 2013 / NO REPS.

No disrespect intended Reps. But when a rep recommends a product of the competition it can be seen as more credible whether it's unbiased or not.
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Best - Anything Finaflex
Worst - Anything not Finaflex

I jk of course
 
Yeah exactly it was a joke.

Best - High Volume
Worst - Phase 8 terrible
 
aaronuconn said:
Is it the flavoring or the effects that are causing you to puke from it?
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Probably the flavoring. Flavoring improved from mi v2, but everyone is different. Whenever I get a poor tasting pre I just down it. Don't gotta be sippin on em
 
aaronuconn said:
Is it the flavoring or the effects that are causing you to puke from it?
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I don't know. Flavouring definitely is not good, but maybe it's some single ingredient in it? Positive effects of it aren't that strong either...

Some other PWO's have done it to me too, mainly old ones with plenty of pointless fillers... Like OG BSN No-Xplode.
 
smoker145 said:
Probably the flavoring. Flavoring improved from mi v2, but everyone is different. Whenever I get a poor tasting pre I just down it. Don't gotta be sippin on em
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I drink it all at once too.. I don't buy supplements because of taste - I buy soda or juice because of taste.

It's just friggin' annoying to throw up my preworkout meal before going to squat rack...
 
Interesting. I don't recall I have ever thrown up after a supp, though I have felt ill at times. I guess my bodies defense mechanism via throwing up is not tuned in welll.

Odds are it's an ingredient, or a combo of ingredients because most of the flavorings use similar ingredients across all brands. Also flavourings are fairly inert compared to active ingredients.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
I drink it all at once too.. I don't buy supplements because of taste - I buy soda or juice because of taste. It's just friggin' annoying to throw up my preworkout meal before going to squat rack...
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Was this one time or multiple occasions?
 
g0hardorgohom said:
I don't know. Flavouring definitely is not good, but maybe it's some single ingredient in it? Positive effects of it aren't that strong either...

Some other PWO's have done it to me too, mainly old ones with plenty of pointless fillers... Like OG BSN No-Xplode.
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This is not new...we've had some people that loved the flavors and some that didnt care for it. Sorry to hear that it didnt go well for you
 
smoker145 said:
Was this one time or multiple occasions?
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It happens more often than it doesn't happen. I let my friend try it too and he also threw up, before we even hit the gym. My girlfriend can use it with no problems though, even at 2 scoops. For me, it happens even at half scoop.

OG Maximize and Maximize V2 (that was POTENT stuff) didn't do that for me. I don't remember whether Maximize Intense did it or not.

AMS Pump Fixx did that for me too but not as often.

For me preworkouts are hit or miss - my stomach just can't handle all of them. Conquer has just been the worst one so far.
 
Loudy Rowdy said:
This is not new...we've had some people that loved the flavors and some that didnt care for it. Sorry to hear that it didnt go well for you
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No reason to be sorry, man. Everyone just got to find what works for them. iForce is a good company with good products and reps and I've tried and liked many of their products - that particular preworkout just is not meant for me.

Haven't been using too many supplements lately but my friend told that Potassium Nitrate is good stuff, especially stacked with agmatine which I already love. Gonna give that stack a go at some point.
 
Best: Clearshot new formulation. For all of you who did not get to try it, you probably missed out on one of the greatest stim blends to ever hit the market

Honorable Mentions: (Evol, Select, Tropinol XP)

Worst: Enhanced
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Best: Clearshot new formulation. For all of you who did not get to try it, you probably missed out on one of the greatest stim blends to ever hit the market

Honorable Mentions: (Evol, Select, Tropinol XP)

Worst: Enhanced
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I'm envious brother. That new clear shot was on my list. Then I waited to long :(
 
flightposite said:
I'm envious brother. That new clear shot was on my list. Then I waited to long :(
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I don't think anyone saw it going off the market so fast. Luckily I had two bottles and maybe 1 1/4 left. I save it for long days of surgery where I need hours of focus. Maybe we will get lucky and somebody will reintroduce those ingredients
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I don't think anyone saw it going off the market so fast. Luckily I had two bottles and maybe 1 1/4 left. I save it for long days of surgery where I need hours of focus. Maybe we will get lucky and somebody will reintroduce those ingredients
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Yeah your right. It was pretty unexpected. But I'm hoping PA will give us another novel stimulant.
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I don't think anyone saw it going off the market so fast. Luckily I had two bottles and maybe 1 1/4 left. I save it for long days of surgery where I need hours of focus. Maybe we will get lucky and somebody will reintroduce those ingredients
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Feels for pa
 
I really wanted to try the new Clearshot but I didn't see it for sale anywhere, it was off the market that fast. It must really suck for PA.
 
Agreed. Unfortunately, I feel he never gets the credit he is due because he doesn't have people blowing up the forums pimping his stuff. One of the only companies I actually buy products from minus a few select others.
 
I was indeed sad when the new clearshot was discontinued. Luckily i have a couple bottles stashed away.
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Agreed. Unfortunately, I feel he never gets the credit he is due because he doesn't have people blowing up the forums pimping his stuff. One of the only companies I actually buy products from minus a few select others.
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I don't think a lot of people have the required knowledge to represent his products
 
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