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best preworkout mental focus wise

TheFugitive said:
Rule #1, as a company rep never compare your product to another in a negative manner

You must be new at this?
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That true fugitive. In the future we will make sure its a shill.
Feel free to send me some more of that Blue Ice sometime:)
 
For Focus, Gameday or Volatile. I am not recommending Gameday just because I am a rep either, I was hooked on it long before. These 2 are definitely worth trying.
For non-stim, I would just use bulk Citrulline, creatine, and agmatine. Possibly throw in some Betaine.
 
I second and third Focus XT but I preferred the caffeine free version since I attacked it with another pwo.

Focus and energy? Yeah I gotta say Stimul8 but I'm sure everyone saw that coming.
 
jarrellt67 said:
Since there seems to be a few Focus XT experts in here, I was wondering if someone could answer a question I have with regard to its use. Most recommend that it be taken on an empty stomach. However, wouldn't that make the vinpocetine in it worthless since its absorption is very low on an empty stomach? If Focus XT is taken with food, then wouldn't that reduce the benefits of L-Tyrosine since it would be competing against other amino acids in your meal? I'm sure there's probably something I'm overlooking (or not familliar with), so any information would be appreciated.
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Best results are when its taken without food, but it shouldn't make a big difference either way.
 
I did actually feel a little bit "stimmed out" from Focus XT. Could've just been the thermic effect. But I had a solid/focused quick lift nonetheless.
In your opinions, Focus XT solid as a stand alone pre workout or you recommend stacking it ? If so, then with what ? Thank guys
 
ikeNball said:
I did actually feel a little bit "stimmed out" from Focus XT. Could've just been the thermic effect. But I had a solid/focused quick lift nonetheless.
In your opinions, Focus XT solid as a stand alone pre workout or you recommend stacking it ? If so, then with what ? Thank guys
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Standalone or add in other ergogens such as Agmatine and/or Cit. Mal. No other "focus" ingredients are needed.

Some do stack it with Glucuronolactone.
 
Synapsin said:
Best results are when its taken without food, but it shouldn't make a big difference either way.
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It does seem like most of the items in the formula would work best on an empty stomach. So, I guess if you want to get the best results from most of the ingrediants then you should take it on an empty stomach and just not gain any benefits from the vinpocetine. It's still the best profile for a blend that I've seen (and I've looked at pretty much everything) even if you neglect the vinpocetine.
 
SwolenONE said:
For those who havent tried Metabolic Bioshock yet, its not Craze like in focus but the energy is super clean and dialed in. Just finished my first tub and am absolutely going back for a second. All of those close to me Ive recommended it to have been pleased as well, which is rare with pres, people often have different experiences with them, feel they dont live up to the hype, etc.
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I bought Bioshock on SwolenONE's recommendation and I must say it is more awesome than I expected. I had great workouts Wed and Friday this week when I used it. Today I used some of the raspberry Craze I still have and honestly I like the Bioshock better. For me, the focus and mind muscle connection is amazing! Top notch preworkout! I can't recommend it enough.
 
TheFugitive said:
That's your response. Son I am disappoint

Watch how I do it, I'm a fuk'n rock star :)
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In all honesty, I had no idea Gamma even repped on this forum at all (sigs don't show on mobile version).
 
aaronuconn said:
Mess curious why sigs didn't show on mobile for me. Glad to know it's everyone.
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Yeah, IIRC it was made this way to create less clutter on the page
 
Jiigzz said:
Yeah, IIRC it was made this way to create less clutter on the page
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That's actually a good idea. Can't see who everyone is affiliated with, but still it does make scrolling easier.

So back on topic, have you tried G-Fuel much in the past? I'm using a tub currently that I got from Black Friday.. I'm a fan.
 
SwolenONE said:
For those who havent tried Metabolic Bioshock yet, its not Craze like in focus but the energy is super clean and dialed in. Just finished my first tub and am absolutely going back for a second. All of those close to me Ive recommended it to have been pleased as well, which is rare with pres, people often have different experiences with them, feel they dont live up to the hype, etc.
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It's extremely expensive though. It has Coq10 included in the formula, which doesn't make much sense to me. To put that in a pre-workout?. It unnecessarily raises the price and Coq10 should be taken with a high fat meal daily to be effective.
 
T-Bone said:
It's extremely expensive though. It has Coq10 included in the formula, which doesn't make much sense to me. To put that in a pre-workout?. It unnecessarily raises the price and Coq10 should be taken with a high fat meal daily to be effective.
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I try and avoid anti-oxidants ~4 hours peri-workout anyways.
 
T-Bone said:
It's extremely expensive though. It has Coq10 included in the formula, which doesn't make much sense to me. To put that in a pre-workout?. It unnecessarily raises the price and Coq10 should be taken with a high fat meal daily to be effective.
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It doesn't make sense to have it in a Preworkout.... unless the person taking it is on cycle, which wouldn't be lucrative for sales due to the fact that MOST users of Pre W/Os are used by those that don't cycle PH/DS/AAS.
 
Its hard to beat a high dose of DMAA (like 50mg) with 100-200mg caffeine. That is straight up tunnel vision.
 
I have been using stimul8 for the last few days. This stuff is crazy strong. By far the strongest pre iv used. Keeps me focused and blasting with energy all work out long
 
Mrbolt84 said:
I have been using stimul8 for the last few days. This stuff is crazy strong. By far the strongest pre iv used. Keeps me focused and blasting with energy all work out long
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It's legit man. Love the stuff
 
aaronuconn said:
I've been going 1.5g - 2.0g pre-workout... used to use 1g 2x daily.
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Yeah I use 2g pre-workout (as you know of course, cause I'm on ArA). I think I'm going to continue to use this stuff even after I'm done with ArA because of it's cost/performance ratio.
 
Mrbolt84 said:
Do it. It's a really good pre.. I think stimul8 is stronger but EVOL is still crazy good. I think EVOL has a cleaner stim feeling and gives you a better pump
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Ima buy it this week. I tried a sample of stimu8 it was good.
 
recently started using lucidrol (dc'd i think) and conquer....no one gets in my way at the gym, sometimes i don't even pay attention the music because i'm just concentrating on the task at hand
 
halfhuman said:
Ima buy it this week. I tried a sample of stimu8 it was good.
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I know some not crazy about the profile but I was impressed with Stimul8. 1 heaping scoop gets me going (2 scoops is too much...too much yohimbe-like side effects). Wouldnt mind purchasing again once they have some new flavors out.

Conquer on the other hand at 2 scoops gets me in the zone. I am hoping we can get some new flavors out as well.

I have a tub of Peach Mango Ritual coming in so will be looking forward to giving it a run.
 
Some top pre's that I had good runs with, not in any order.
1. Level ll
2. XcelleratorX
3. Stimul8
4. Diablo
 
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