Alright, good, that's what I did last week. I had some difficulty keeping my lower back from arching, even with just the bar. Guess I should work on my overall balance a bit more.
and core
....and core...I've been slacking on core lately, yes....
This. My squats caught up to my on the 4th cycle and I felt like I had been training heavier on squats than everything else, as far as the reps I was able to perform on my heavy sets each day.If anything go too light with the estimated maxes that you based your training numbers off of. It goes up every month anyways, it'll just give you a longer time until you "hit" that number that you can't go up with. If the weight feels easy just use it to perfect your technique and then just go ham on that AMAP set.
I can barely eat 6k total in 2 days, hahaha. If 2700 doesn't make much difference I'll probably go to 3000 next Saturday.
Damnit. Might as well just start today. I'll try for 3200 by 8pm. Lol
Do it now. Just eat. Then eat some more.
Currently eating a bagel with strawberry cream cheese on one half and peanut butter & honey on the other half, haha
Why do you want him to get fat after he just leaned out so nicely?
I'm with you on this Trn. I want to get bigger over time, lol. Eating 3200 today was difficult. But I hit the gym pretty hard, so I doubt it hurt me much.
In the beginning of the thread, you weighed 145 "dehydrated". My experience is that means morning. Assuming that's correct, you're up 3lbs in a week. Considering you can -- at best -- expect 1-1.5lbs/muscle per month without AAS, I'd delay the add more calorie hysteria personally.
Complete it in style!
Good man!
Haha, I'm just gonna try to keep my calories around 2600 (despite today) and see where it puts me. I was back to 148.8 this morning though.
I've gotten past listening to other (non weighlifters) opinions, I WANT to get bigger and I want to bulk up. I want to do this for me over anything else, I've done so much and I know I can. Going from 235 to 145, I know I can bulk up cleanly. I'm just going to start slow so I don't shock my body too much. If by the end of this week if I'm not up another pound, I'm bumping it up. My goal is to fill a large tshirt, sleeves, back neck and chest (not necessarily gut). I could care less what the girls think right now, because after I get solid size on my body, and cut back down properly, then they'll flock. Until then, I'm getting bigger and stronger. If it takes 5k calories a day, then I'll do it.
Definitely agree with you, Im just going to keep experimenting and adding cals until I get to where I'm gaining steady at about .5lb a week. The hardest part for me is eating that many calories cleanly, because I'm on a college budget, lol. And make all my own truck payments, insurance payments, phone payments, etc. I'll get there eventually, it may take me a little while, but I will.
That's true, makes more sense now. I've got nothing to lose, and a lot to gain, so I'll probably just starting eating until I'm full. All the time, lol. Or about 35-4000 cal a day. Maybe more, maybe less. I typically go by weekly average.
If I can get to 175 and do a cut and get to 10% at 160, I'll be a very happy camper. And yeah, like I said, I'm just going to monitor how I respond to different caloric intakes. I found my best macros, now I just have to find the best caloric intake. And that's going to take personal experimenting. Unless I get my BMR and RMR tested at a hospital/clinic. I just don't want to get to be a fat blob, even a strong fat blob, lol. I'd like to stay sub 16-17%. If not sub 15%.
Staying under 15 is a great goal. But, it's up to you whether you want to do the whole 3 steps forward, 2 steps back or just keep a tighter diet. You don't need to get fat to gain muscle. You just need to be in caloric excess and lift weights. Doing things like ensuring adequate pre-workout and post-workout nutrition (I'd also add intra-workout as it works well for me when I make a dilute drink) are probably going to do more for you than simply slamming down calories indiscriminantly.
I'm getting some FinaFlex BCAA+SAA this week, so I have the intra-workout covered. I also have some condense and d-pol that should be here by Thursday or Friday. I honestly think that 5-6lbs is water weight, because I wake up at 148 almost everyday. Unless I eat a lot of carbs, I've noticed I'm really carb sensitive. But it's difficult for me to hear one thing over another. I'm going to stick to what I've been doing. 2600-2700cals a day.
Holy **** balls. Yeah, I think 2600 at 175+g protein a day is good for my height and weight. I'll stick to it for a good while.
It's a good starting point. You could have a monster metabolism. Who knows? But, give it at least 3-4 weeks before you start messing with things. ^_^
Sounds like my plan. Sometimes I get confused as to who to listen to. Everyone has different goals, ya know. And I'll check that out here in a little bit, thanks man.
I already stated I was joking about 6k. The 400 calorie difference between 2600 and 300 could be the 400ish he needs to gain that pounds per week. A guy his age, activity level, etc should eat 2500 or so without exercise. He puts in some lifting, eats quality, etc and 3k is very reasonable and conservative. Your body doesn't take up every single calorie you eat. And it doesn't automatically put 100% of the calories over maintainence into building muscle. We could write a book about it. We can get into the biochemistry. But the fact is if he wants to make maximal gains in size and strength he needs to eat more. If its a clean, reasonable diet, and he is active, he will not get fat.
I literally don't do anything other than lay around the house, eat, gym, eat, shower, sleep, repeat. I'm pretty lazy except for my workouts, haha
Well knock it off. Hahaha. Go be productive. Honestly I think 3k is a good spot for you. I would just rather see you over eat than under eat.
Give me about 2 weeks and I'll be doing lawn care and landscaping 8hrs a day, 5 days a week. Oh yeaaaah! that's another passion of mine, lol. Then I'll definitely up my cals, cause I'll still be working out just as hard if not harder.
I know, I caught that. That's why I said 3000 is much more reasonable than 6000. I also just emphasized that it's unlikely that 2,600 was "way low' as you said. You might be right that 3k is better for him, but he won't know unless he gives 2,600-2,700 a shot. It's perfectly inline with most major bulking formulas, e.g. 18kcal/lb.
Well, I used to be pretty fat. And fat cells don't disappear, they just shrink, so would that make me gain fat easier than if I had never been?
I don't think it would. Some suggest it might, but it would have to somehow alter nutrient partitioning and conservation of energy mandates that weight gain be directly related to intake. Having more fat cells cannot make mass materialize from nothing
It's possible that somehow nutrient partioning is altered by additional fat cells, however. Which means -- at least hypothetically -- you could end up having more macronutrients going to fat than you would have otherwise. But, that's all theory as I really have no idea.
Well, guess I'll figure it out sometime between now and 175 or 185 (probably the former). HahahaI don't think it would. Some suggest it might, but it would have to somehow alter nutrient partitioning and conservation of energy mandates that weight gain be directly related to intake. Having more fat cells cannot make mass materialize from nothing
X2 Same with weekly. You can still fluctuate and make it seem like you gained a few pounds. You need to look at the general direction of change over a few weeks.
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