Off the chest/clavicle only!! You can do light weight behind the head: Bradford press, klokov press, as assistance.
Normal or staggered stance. Flex your lats Squeee your butt. Push it off your upper chest, lock out, back down. Full ROM each rep.
Alright, good, that's what I did last week. I had some difficulty keeping my lower back from arching, even with just the bar. Guess I should work on my overall balance a bit more.
and core
If anything go too light with the estimated maxes that you based your training numbers off of. It goes up every month anyways, it'll just give you a longer time until you "hit" that number that you can't go up with. If the weight feels easy just use it to perfect your technique and then just go ham on that AMAP set.![]()
Try like 6k a day you should gain more weight.
I say exceed 3k starting tomorrow.
Damnit. Might as well just start today. I'll try for 3200 by 8pm. Lol
Do it now. Just eat. Then eat some more.
Why do you want him to get fat after he just leaned out so nicely?Try like 6k a day you should gain more weight.
Why do you want him to get fat after he just leaned out so nicely?
In the beginning of the thread, you weighed 145 "dehydrated". My experience is that means morning. Assuming that's correct, you're up 3lbs in a week. Considering you can -- at best -- expect 1-1.5lbs/muscle per month without AAS, I'd delay the add more calorie hysteria personally.I'm going to try to stay around 2700 this week and see how it goes. I did 2600 last week and didn't gain too much because this morning I weighed 148 again.
Good man!I'm with you on this Trn. I want to get bigger over time, lol. Eating 3200 today was difficult. But I hit the gym pretty hard, so I doubt it hurt me much.
Good man!
Most people don't realize the reality of their situation. They keep eating until they're big and fat, and convince themselves it's muscle. lol. Always makes me laugh when some dude tells me "yeah, bro, i'm 230 now." like he's hyyyyuuuuugeeee. More like, I'm 160 lbs LBM and need to lose 50lbs. Don't fall into that trap. It's one of the greatest ironies in the recreational bodybuilding world, IMO.
A huge natural guy at your height will be 170lbs while lean, probably 155-160lbs competition lean. Having that stuff straight in your head from the beginning, as it appears you do, will make you much less likely to become the fat guy who thinks he's the buff guy. ^_^
If you want to get big, you have to eat like a man. I know because I have been there, and learned the hard way. And there are plenty of guys way bigger than me that will tell you that. Guys like Brandon Lilly. Go look up what he has to say about diet. If you want to stay a skinny and weak, eat like a girl. If you want to get bigger, stronger, and more powerful, eat more, and eat clean. I was being sarcastic about needing 6k, but you do need to eat more. I was eating 5k a day when I was your size trying to get bigger. I didn't get fat. I'm pulling 550 at 185 lbs now. That's not luck.
2600 is way low. Get over 3k. It's easy. I used to drink a shake that had almost that many calories in it.
If you eat too much and start gaining fat, you can adjust. I would rather put on some fat and then lose it, then not eat enough and make zero gains. You need to focus on getting strong first. You are skinny as hell already and don't need to worry about that if you want to get strong.
If all you care about is looking cut then ignore my advise.
I'm not saying you need any x number, but you do need to eat more. You obviously can cut down. I don't think you will shock your body into anything by eating so much. All you are gona do is help yourself get where you wana go sooner, by eating better. Eat clean and big and you'll be fine. If I didn't want to help you I wouldn't be wasting my time. But I can see you want to learn and you want to get better, smarter, stronger, and bigger.
I'm right there with you man, don't worry. It's going to be hard to gauge weight and mass gains by a per week basis, because you are going to fluctuate by several pounds. That's why I say it's better to eat more now and start making progress than to find out in a month you were screwing yourself all along.
Even if he wanted to aim for 4lbs/mo -- which is far beyond what a natural person who is 5'6" at 148.8lbs can do -- that's 474 kcal/day over baseline. 3k is far more reasonable than 6k, but 2600 is unlikely to be "way low" unless his workout intensity is nuts and his daily caloric expenditure by exercise is super high. It's been one week, and he's 3.8lbs heavier. I don't know what everyone is expecting here.
550lb pull at your weight is awesome, btw. But, it's not a result of your size. There are guys way bigger than you who couldn't pull that because they didn't train like you.
Staying under 15 is a great goal. But, it's up to you whether you want to do the whole 3 steps forward, 2 steps back or just keep a tighter diet. You don't need to get fat to gain muscle. You just need to be in caloric excess and lift weights. Doing things like ensuring adequate pre-workout and post-workout nutrition (I'd also add intra-workout as it works well for me when I make a dilute drink) are probably going to do more for you than simply slamming down calories indiscriminantly.If I can get to 175 and do a cut and get to 10% at 160, I'll be a very happy camper. And yeah, like I said, I'm just going to monitor how I respond to different caloric intakes. I found my best macros, now I just have to find the best caloric intake. And that's going to take personal experimenting. Unless I get my BMR and RMR tested at a hospital/clinic. I just don't want to get to be a fat blob, even a strong fat blob, lol. I'd like to stay sub 16-17%. If not sub 15%.
Staying under 15 is a great goal. But, it's up to you whether you want to do the whole 3 steps forward, 2 steps back or just keep a tighter diet. You don't need to get fat to gain muscle. You just need to be in caloric excess and lift weights. Doing things like ensuring adequate pre-workout and post-workout nutrition (I'd also add intra-workout as it works well for me when I make a dilute drink).
I just think you're being faaaar too hasty. You've been bulking for a single week, in which time you've increased your working sets on exercises like bench and increased nearly as many as 6lbs, presently nearly 5lbs since your day zero. This is despite changing your workout routine in the middle of it all. You really don't know if something is working after one week by any means. Make a plan, stick to it for at least a month, then re-evaluate. But, don't change things week to week or day to day.
Here is what a 300lb monster eats:
Ronnie's nutrition:
Calories: 5562
Carbohydrates: 474g
Protein: 564g
Fats: 150g
bodybuilding(DOT)com/fun/ronnie-colemans-fitness-program.html
In the context of Ronnie Colemans 5,562 kcal/day diet, I don't think that it's unreasonable that you're eating half as many calories at half his weight and with far fewer drugs.
It's a good starting point. You could have a monster metabolism. Who knows? But, give it at least 3-4 weeks before you start messing with things. ^_^Holy **** balls. Yeah, I think 2600 at 175+g protein a day is good for my height and weight. I'll stick to it for a good while.
It's a good starting point. You could have a monster metabolism. Who knows? But, give it at least 3-4 weeks before you start messing with things. ^_^
IF you want to start really educating yourself on the science of training, check out Lyle McDonalds website BodyRecomposition DOT com. Don't bother with his forums. The guy is an angry loon. But, his work is fantastic.
Even if he wanted to aim for 4lbs/mo -- which is far beyond what a natural person who is 5'6" at 148.8lbs can do -- that's 474 kcal/day over baseline. 3k is far more reasonable than 6k, but 2600 is unlikely to be "way low" unless his workout intensity is nuts and his daily caloric expenditure by exercise is super high. It's been one week, and he's 3.8lbs heavier. I don't know what everyone is expecting here.
550lb pull at your weight is awesome, btw. But, it's not a result of your size. There are guys way bigger than you who couldn't pull that because they didn't train like you.
I already stated I was joking about 6k. The 400 calorie difference between 2600 and 300 could be the 400ish he needs to gain that pounds per week. A guy his age, activity level, etc should eat 2500 or so without exercise. He puts in some lifting, eats quality, etc and 3k is very reasonable and conservative. Your body doesn't take up every single calorie you eat. And it doesn't automatically put 100% of the calories over maintainence into building muscle. We could write a book about it. We can get into the biochemistry. But the fact is if he wants to make maximal gains in size and strength he needs to eat more. If its a clean, reasonable diet, and he is active, he will not get fat.
I literally don't do anything other than lay around the house, eat, gym, eat, shower, sleep, repeat. I'm pretty lazy except for my workouts, haha
Well knock it off. Hahaha. Go be productive. Honestly I think 3k is a good spot for you. I would just rather see you over eat than under eat.
I know, I caught that. That's why I said 3000 is much more reasonable than 6000. I also just emphasized that it's unlikely that 2,600 was "way low' as you said. You might be right that 3k is better for him, but he won't know unless he gives 2,600-2,700 a shot. It's perfectly inline with most major bulking formulas, e.g. 18kcal/lb.I already stated I was joking about 6k. The 400 calorie difference between 2600 and 300 could be the 400ish he needs to gain that pounds per week. A guy his age, activity level, etc should eat 2500 or so without exercise. He puts in some lifting, eats quality, etc and 3k is very reasonable and conservative. Your body doesn't take up every single calorie you eat. And it doesn't automatically put 100% of the calories over maintainence into building muscle. We could write a book about it. We can get into the biochemistry. But the fact is if he wants to make maximal gains in size and strength he needs to eat more. If its a clean, reasonable diet, and he is active, he will not get fat.
I know, I caught that. That's why I said 3000 is much more reasonable than 6000. I also just emphasized that it's unlikely that 2,600 was "way low' as you said.
Eating clean vs "dirty" won't make a major difference in fat gain when you're in major caloric surplus. Even with ideal protein intake muscle growth has rate limitations. The law of conservation of energy mandates that the rest of the calories must go somewhere since your gut is highly efficient at absorbing macronutrients and you won't simply crap it out. This means the rest will be stored, and you will get fat.
Now, the issue with getting fat isn't simply cosmetic. I see people day in and day out, big muscles and small, who have major health problems from getting fat. Almost every major morbid condition affecting Americans today is related to having too much adipose tissue. One that really hits home for a lot of people is diabetes. Adipose tissue directly causes insulin resistance. If you're a person with a predisposition to Type II diabetes, you might unmask it. And, this is a problem because of the vicious cycle that ensues. Get fat, insulin expression increases --> amyloid protein is coexpressed with insulin and deposits locally in the pancreas, destroy the already fewer beta islet cells meaning that your pancreas now has a more limited ability to respond to the hyperglycemic state. You get fatter, insulin resisntance increases, and your pancreas keeps killing itself. All the while every small blood vessel in youry body is hardening, your nerves are getting wrecked, and your body is in a pro-inflammatory state which starts negatively affecting larger blood vessels, liek those in your heart, brain, kidneys contributing to the development of organ failure.
I don't think it would. Some suggest it might, but it would have to somehow alter nutrient partitioning and conservation of energy mandates that weight gain be directly related to intake. Having more fat cells cannot make mass materialize from nothingWell, I used to be pretty fat. And fat cells don't disappear, they just shrink, so would that make me gain fat easier than if I had never been?
I don't think it would. Some suggest it might, but it would have to somehow alter nutrient partitioning and conservation of energy mandates that weight gain be directly related to intake. Having more fat cells cannot make mass materialize from nothingIt's possible that somehow nutrient partioning is altered by additional fat cells, however. Which means -- at least hypothetically -- you could end up having more macronutrients going to fat than you would have otherwise. But, that's all theory as I really have no idea.
don't go by daily weight, it fluctuates so easily