PES Anabeta Elite + Erase pro

Budman7811 said:
What would be the dosing for usin with/after a PH?

Probably start usin the last week of PH? Or the last day of PH start at night with ABE and use erase pro in the morning with first meal 640am.. Use alphamine as PRE workout 430 am and t2 midday?

I was looking online via web search for some other reviews/logs/threads to try and get the info on my own and..... First one sent me here hahaaha
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I'd throw them in day one of pct if you have one bottle of each.

You could add GDAs to the cycle if you wish, but just watch it because Anabeta seems to have its own intrinsic glucose disposal mechanism among other things.
 
LiveToLift said:
Good suggestion here.

One way I have effectively used ABE in a cut is by utilizing a nighttime dose with a light meal before bed. It's easy to fight hunger when you are sleeping! :) This also results in a ripped and lean feeling upon waking.
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Probably 1am/1midday/2dinner. before bed a protein shake(bottle says 4 times a day) shouldm it be taken with at least 25-50 carbs? That's why I thought maybe 2 at dinner because I don't plan on eating carbs right before bed.... Unless you feel the protein shake will suffice.

Kevin mention GDA issues. So we will say that post workout 30min before said 50g carb meal. Anabeta 30min after that(1st dose, not sure how it will feel preworkout). Then (both)1pm, 6pm and if night time w shake.
 
I am still waiting to do a DAA/erase/endosurge stack.

All these good reviews is making me think adding ABE would be a very good idea
 
dsbhaver said:
I am still waiting to do a DAA/erase/endosurge stack.

All these good reviews is making me think adding ABE would be a very good idea
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Adding ABE would be a great addition to the above stack. I just started ABE about 1.5 weeks ago and once again I see why it is my favorite supplement.
 
5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one in ABE is a DHEA metabolite?

Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione in erase is another DHEA metabolite

I understand they are different metabolites (cortisol or anti estrogen) but would stacking two DHEA metabolites have side effects though?
 
dsbhaver said:
5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one in ABE is a DHEA metabolite?

Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione in erase is another DHEA metabolite

I understand they are different metabolites (cortisol or anti estrogen) but would stacking two DHEA metabolites have side effects though?
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Apparently not because those are always stacked I'm starting a daa erase abe alphamine recomp stack tomorrow :D . But in for an answer to above
 
EatMoar said:
Apparently not because those are always stacked I'm starting a daa erase abe alphamine recomp stack tomorrow :D . But in for an answer to above
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Seems a little counter productive I suppose.

Maybe Original anabeta would be better
 
dsbhaver said:
5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one in ABE is a DHEA metabolite?

Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione in erase is another DHEA metabolite

I understand they are different metabolites (cortisol or anti estrogen) but would stacking two DHEA metabolites have side effects though?
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They are different ingredients. They both control cortisol but Erase has its own anti-estrogenic properties. The ingredient in Erase is 7-oxo which is a precursor of 7-oh.
 
kbayne said:
They are different ingredients. They both control cortisol but Erase has its own anti-estrogenic properties. The ingredient in Erase is 7-oxo which is a precursor of 7-oh.
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Oh ok, thanks for that!

So, stacking them together may even increase the effects of cortisol control?

Just thinking sore joints may be a issue.
 
dsbhaver said:
Oh ok, thanks for that!

So, stacking them together may even increase the effects of cortisol control?

Just thinking sore joints may be a issue.
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By stacking both, yes cortisol levels would be controlled plenty.

Only way you would get sore joints is from Erase/ Erase Pro because of how it dries you out by having diuretic activity. If so just up your fish oil dosage along with running Cissus. Personally though I have never had sore joints from Erase or Erase Pro.
 
So would it be preferred to maybe use OG anabeta with a stack?

Anabeta elite is at a good price atm! Might grab a few bottles anyways, I have no problem with appetite ;)
 
dsbhaver said:
So would it be preferred to maybe use OG anabeta with a stack?

Anabeta elite is at a good price atm! Might grab a few bottles anyways, I have no problem with appetite ;)
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What is your goal?

OG Anabeta I like using for a bulk. ABE for a cut/recomp because of the added forskolin. Both are great for strength and lean mass gains.

The current price for ABE is excellent and hard to pass up.
 
kbayne said:
What is your goal?

OG Anabeta I like using for a bulk. ABE for a cut/recomp because of the added forskolin. Both are great for strength and lean mass gains.

The current price for ABE is excellent and hard to pass up.
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Lean up for sure!

It's the same price as OG so I got to get a few bottles while I can
 
dsbhaver said:
Lean up for sure!

It's the same price as OG so I got to get a few bottles while I can
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I would go ABE then. Should lean up very nicely with the right diet and workout plan. I noticed it was the same price as OG Anabeta which is out of stock. 8 weeks of ABE is highly recommended.
 
Food for thought: if you're worried about overdoing cortisol, 1 bottle SS forskolin + 1 bottle Anabeta = Anabeta Elite without cortisol control
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Food for thought: if you're worried about overdoing cortisol, 1 bottle SS forskolin + 1 bottle Anabeta = Anabeta Elite without cortisol control
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True.

The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

I am pumped to do this stack!

Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack :)
 
dsbhaver said:
True.

The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

I am pumped to do this stack!

Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack :)
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Great stack
 
dsbhaver said:
True.

The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

I am pumped to do this stack!

Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack :)
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I'm pumped for you to do that stack :D
 
kbayne said:
I'm pumped for you to do that stack :D
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As am I. Can't wait for 4/1 myself. LOL overkill? Nah...

OG Anabeta
OG Erase
Paragon
Inhibit-P
Reduce-XT

And the usual cast of stuff Alphamine, Enhanced, Bodyforge 2.0, NeuroSurge and some other stuff...........:D
 
dtrain13 said:
As am I. Can't wait for 4/1 myself. LOL overkill? Nah...

OG Anabeta
OG Erase
Paragon
Inhibit-P
Reduce-XT

And the usual cast of stuff Alphamine, Enhanced, Bodyforge 2.0, NeuroSurge and some other stuff...........:D
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Nice!!! Got everything covered in that stack. Definitely not overkill. Go big or go home :D
 
AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right? :D
 
bdcc said:
AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right? :D
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LOL same here.

I supplement my 4 weeks off from Anabeta Elite with OG Anabeta + Forskolin-95. Is this allowed?
 
bdcc said:
AnaBeta Elite is like Alphamine for me.

Taking time off is something I have to force myself to do lol.

Sometimes we get a postal delay of a few days. That counts as adequate time off, right? :D
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Wait we are supposed to cycle off of the two? Oops...
 
dsbhaver said:
True.

The added cortisol control wouldn't hurt either.

I am pumped to do this stack!

Night get a few bottles of ABE and add them to my next DAA/endosurgeTurbo/erase stack :)
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I'm excited for you that sounds like my kind of stack. I'm very interested in the new Endosurge Turbo.
 
PrepNwa23 said:
I'm excited for you that sounds like my kind of stack. I'm very interested in the new Endosurge Turbo.
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I haven't ever used endosurge so I had no idea there was a turbo. Rest of the stack looks good though! :)
 
dtrain13 said:
Curious as to your rational behind this. I assume the change in the L-dopa extracts?
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Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge
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This gUy has some book smarts
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge
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I do really like the 20:1 Maca in the new version. It boost my libido very nicely. So it is a hard choice which way to go. I think both are good products with different uses.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Per 1 month supply, you now get 66% as much Divanil and less actual mucuna pruriens (there is more to mucuna than l-dopa, but l-dopa is the most important). Conversely, the turbo version has a negligible dose of vitamin D3, no mucuna constituents besides L-dopa, and a 20:1 maca extract.

Would I rather have more divanil + mucuna, or have maca extract? Maca is awesome for drive, libido, and performance, but I obviously want the ingredients that modulate hormone levels. They're very close in worth, but I think the original gets the edge
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What about the sleep effects?

The original knocked me out
 
I'd like to say thanks. The first time using erase pro and Anabeta elite,starting to see the effects. This PCT run do far is a great stack. I could be wrong, but hear me out. Erase pro hardens/dry out look, Agmatine keeps the pumps/ fullness, slinshot partitioning with anabeta, Creatine puts a little water in the muscle so this makes one walk taller? That alpha feeling?

All I can say is
:)
 
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