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USPlabs "Patented Anabolic" R&D -- Alpha Testing Q/A --

USPlabsRep said:
With Pre-workout is a must...
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I'm curious as to why preworkout would be better than taking it at the same time every day... is the half life that long? If I typically take it in the AM but occasionally work out in the evening is that too much variation in the dosing pattern?

Excited to give this a try regardless of the back and forth in this thread. If you guys really are patenting it, you must have a significant amount of confidence in it so let's see what it can do! :)
 
Gotta love the controversy over innovation!


Every great product starts this way. I remember when everyone said Erase wasn't going to be good because of this theory and that theory. Now all those guys take Erase

I followed about 8-10 logs, didn't have time for the 200 that beta-tested. All if them seemed very positive and also consistent with each other, which lead me to believe there was something special going on.

I've been taking AnaBeta every day...excited to add Versa to continue my lean(ish) bulk!
 
USPlabsRep said:
it increases mental stimulation, focus (amazing in the zone feel) and mind muscle.

you have to feel it to understand..
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i had that feeling with lit up to an extent. guess my pre workout isnt strong enough to feel it yet. may bump up the dosage. (G Fuel)
 
R1balla said:
does it enhance the stim effect?
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I just read the write-up...damn USPlabs for finding novel pathways that I thought I was the only one who knew of them. I read a lot about TAAR back when I had an obsession with cognitive enhancers. TAAR agonists, especially when combined with stimulants, will promote an overall feeling of cognition and wakefullness. Its hard to explain the feel, more of one of those things you just have to try it like other cognitive enhancers, and listen to your body


Trace Amine Associated Receptor (TAAR)
The compound may interact with a relatively new and novel receptor type, called the Trace Amine Associated Receptor or TAAR, for short. There are animal model data showing that agonists at this receptor may promote vigilance/wakefulness and improve cognition, all without having the classic, "CNS stimulant" effect...(5).In fact, some of the most potent CNS stimulants on the planet actually have activity at this receptor, however, they also have their limitations. Yet, this compound may have activity at this receptor, while lacking those specific limitations...If this weren't enough, compounds with activity at the TAAR, have also shown a possible trend for reduced fat mass in animal models, though, the results were not statistically significant...
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mr.cooper69 said:
Where did iron fists posts go? Objective discussion and a disagreement of viewpoints should not be grounds for deletion. I just got here and am reading a broken convo lol.
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Yea I was wondering where dude went myself.
 
nattydisaster said:
Gotta love the controversy over innovation!

Every great product starts this way. I remember when everyone said Erase wasn't going to be good because of this theory and that theory. Now all those guys take Erase

I followed about 8-10 logs, didn't have time for the 200 that beta-tested. All if them seemed very positive and also consistent with each other, which lead me to believe there was something special going on.

I've been taking AnaBeta every day...excited to add Versa to continue my lean(ish) bulk!
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I agree that most the logs I followed were very positive and seemed to show good results. I do enjoy a good debate though.

Anabeta/versa does sound appealing.
 
Yes, the placebo effect is a strong one but when several logs post very similar results without even a clue as too what they might expect from the product, then I highly doubt the placebo is in play.

You must consider that their are a variety of different supplements that ellicit very different physiological effects and so when PA was released to the Alpha testers, that product could have mimicked any one of the categories of supplements. I.e. Test booster, AI, Insulin mimicker etc. etc. and so any placebo that a user would have felt would be in line with what they believed/ hoped or anticipated the product would deliver (increased hunger, appitite suppression etc.) but instead they all reported similar findings.

This would require far too much coincidence for all alphas (not just in this board either, but users from other forums as well) to anticipate the same response.
 
Jiigzz said:
Yes, the placebo effect is a strong one but when several logs post very similar results without even a clue as too what they might expect from the product, then I highly doubt the placebo is in play.

You must consider that their are a variety of different supplements that ellicit very different physiological effects and so when PA was released to the Alpha testers, that product could have mimicked any one of the categories of supplements. I.e. Test booster, AI, Insulin mimicker etc. etc. and so any placebo that a user would have felt would be in line with what they believed/ hoped or anticipated the product would deliver (increased hunger, appitite suppression etc.) but instead they all reported similar findings.

This would require far too much coincidence for all alphas (not just in this board either, but users from other forums as well) to anticipate the same response.
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It’s hard for people to look at things objectively in ourindustry and understandably so. We expected a small backlash from the usualsuspects (we wanted that as it only helps discussion and growth of the product) and we hoped that the consumers would then weigh the feedback on theproduct objectively and that would win out...that seems to be happening..
 
Jiigzz said:
Yes, the placebo effect is a strong one but when several logs post very similar results without even a clue as too what they might expect from the product, then I highly doubt the placebo is in play.

You must consider that their are a variety of different supplements that ellicit very different physiological effects and so when PA was released to the Alpha testers, that product could have mimicked any one of the categories of supplements. I.e. Test booster, AI, Insulin mimicker etc. etc. and so any placebo that a user would have felt would be in line with what they believed/ hoped or anticipated the product would deliver (increased hunger, appitite suppression etc.) but instead they all reported similar findings.

This would require far too much coincidence for all alphas (not just in this board either, but users from other forums as well) to anticipate the same response.
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great post
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Where did iron fists posts go? Objective discussion and a disagreement of viewpoints should not be grounds for deletion. I just got here and am reading a broken convo lol.

Anecdotally, I did notice transient bouts of almost unbearable sweating when combined with caffeine in a fasted state. That, and nitrate-esque vascularity, were the two most prominent effects for me (the citocholine may explain the erections). I'd like to get iron fists take on these effects and possible causes. Vascularity observations could be placebo or subject's bias, but the intense rise in body heat (with sweating and even some nausea) was only present when I took this product fasted, and it occurred without fail when doing so.
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I've quoted most all of his posts as it was, you should be able to get the entirety of his contribution.

I do enjoy a devils advocate position and opposition will in the end only help prove out anything of real value, but that guy was beginning to just degrade into personal attacks on my intelligence and condescending posts on dictionary meanings of placebo as if I don't understand its very simple concept.

I wish he could have offered a scientific argument or a more extensive look into the effects of the compounds actions as well but I honestly don't think he has any more info then any of us.

Either way, I don't think his posts should have been removed. Hopefully he can come back if he hasn't been banned.

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If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

Sounds fun
 
Not sure If some of you know, a final email to ic peeps has been sent out.. It's the last call to get your hands on this sick deal before its all gone...
 
squatting said:
If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

Sounds fun
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logging mine now. it was free, but a log wasnt required. just simply logging my personal experiences with it. if i hate it, ill say. if i love it, ill pimp it all around the forum
 
hawaiianhulk said:
Not sure If some of you know, a final email to ic peeps has been sent out.. It's the last call to get your hands on this sick deal before its all gone...
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Thumbs up!
 
mr.cooper69 said:
You should honestly try Focus XT for a similar feel (no pimp). It would stack well with Versa-1
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Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
 
Jiigzz said:
Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
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I think so..focus would increase and even better mental stamina seems to increase..you just stay sharp.
 
Jiigzz said:
Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
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Since the citocholine appears to be a secondary ingredient relative to the aegeline, it probably wouldn't be the best way to use it, but you could try Versa-1 + Focus XT + a racetam
 
Jiigzz said:
Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
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That's one serious study session!focus xt is more than enough for me when I need the mental boost.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Since the citocholine appears to be a secondary ingredient relative to the aegeline, it probably wouldn't be the best way to use it, but you could try Versa-1 + Focus XT + a racetam
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I'll give that combo a trial run in the coming weeks. Thanks for the heads up.

Mack411 said:
That's one serious study session!focus xt is more than enough for me when I need the mental boost.
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Yeah, Focus Xt does me well during the semester but closer to exam time when you need to pull all-nighters WITH mental clairty (often a hard combo in a sleep deprived state) I need all the help I can get.
 
Going to run a non sponsored log of Versa 1 as soon as it arrives. Only other supplements i will be using is Powerful at bedtime and Epharm pumpspray preworkout..sj
 
SuppJunkie said:
I will. Started pumpspray yesterday at 70 sprays preworkout and Powerful at bedtime. As soon as the Versa1 arrives I will make a non sponsored log here. Very excited to give this ago. SJ
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Have you used the other products (PumpSpray and PowerFULL) before? If yes, then you might be better positioned to identify the incremental effects of another variable, such as Versa-1. Do you have a log already?
 
On our ic orders,will we get a tracking #? I did see it said on the initial page we should,but I have not received anything.i just want to make sure it doesn't get left in rain or stolen like in the past!
 
nattydisaster said:
Versa-1 + Focus XT + AnaBeta Elite = supplement junkies ultimate mind and muscle stack?
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Sick!
 
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