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Whats your go to PCT Stack?

JudgementDay

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I wanna hear everyones go to PCT stack and or which PCT do you plan on running next:)


I got a test/anavar cycle coming up and this is what I plan on running for PCT, would love to hear everyones go to PCT.

4 weeks
Torem- 90/60/60/30
Formula-X- 2 scoops a day
Endosurge- 6 caps a day
Licogenix- 4 caps a day

Then I switch to,

4 weeks
Titanium XL- 4 caps a day
Division 1- 6 caps a day
Sustain Alpha- 4 pumps a day
Endoamp- 1 scoop a day
ErasePro- 1 cap a day EOD
Anabeta Elite- 4 caps a day
 
I'll be using Clomid at 75/50/50/25 with formulaX, Licogenix, Division1. This is all I will be using for this pct to show what Athletix only products can do.
Including Muscle Marinade, ConDense, multi, fishoil and SlinShot to keep glycogen replenished
Before it was
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Daa at 3g daily
Erase 1/2/3/3/2/1
Preworkout of choice with vasodialator
 
Preferred PCT =

Aromasin @ 25mg day
Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 @ 10cc a day
Sustain Alpha Gel @ 4 pumps day
EndoAMP @ scoops a day

GHRP-6 @ 300 mcg twice day
MOD GRF-129 @ 100 mcg twice a day
TrueNutrition GLucose Disposal Agent 2 caps before carb meals

Peri-workout drink -
30g KarboLoad
20g EAA'
10g creatine
2g glutamine

-Matt
 
Airborne42 said:
I'll be using Clomid at 75/50/50/25 with formulaX, Licogenix, Division1. This is all I will be using for this pct to show what Athletix only products can do.
Including Muscle Marinade, ConDense, multi, fishoil and SlinShot to keep glycogen replenished
Before it was
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Daa at 3g daily
Erase 1/2/3/3/2/1
Preworkout of choice with vasodialator
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Can't go wrong with using Athletix in PCT ;)

MattPorter said:
Preferred PCT =

Aromasin @ 25mg day
Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 @ 10cc a day
Sustain Alpha Gel @ 4 pumps day
EndoAMP @ scoops a day

GHRP-6 @ 300 mcg twice day
MOD GRF-129 @ 100 mcg twice a day
TrueNutrition GLucose Disposal Agent 2 caps before carb meals

Peri-workout drink -
30g KarboLoad
20g EAA'
10g creatine
2g glutamine

-Matt
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Very interesting PCT, I'm seeing a lot more people using peptides in pct now. What I'm interested in knowing is why you picked Aromasin over a serm? I see a lot of people stick with a serm and add an AI 3 weeks into PCT, but I know your an expert at this Matt, so I'm looking forward to hearing your response:)
 
Hey JD,

I looked into Licogenix and it is VERY interesting from the brief info I read on it....I am curious and will read more.

As for the Aromasin -- I have always hated the way serms like clomid and nolva has made myself and others feel in regard to mood, vision,.and motivation during pct --- not too mention the liver carcinogen effects of nolva...

I always liked Aromasin for its 'suicide properties" which make an estrogen rebound impossible and also the fact that research has demonstrated that Aromasin minimally alters HDL, IGF-1 and increases T effectively.

-Matt

JudgementDay said:
Can't go wrong with using Athletix in PCT ;)



Very interesting PCT, I'm seeing a lot more people using peptides in pct now. What I'm interested in knowing is why you picked Aromasin over a serm? I see a lot of people stick with a serm and add an AI 3 weeks into PCT, but I know your an expert at this Matt, so I'm looking forward to hearing your response:)
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MattPorter said:
Hey JD,

I looked into Licogenix and it is VERY interesting from the brief info I read on it....I am curious and will read more.

As for the Aromasin -- I have always hated the way serms like clomid and nolva has made myself and others feel in regard to mood, vision,.and motivation during pct --- not too mention the liver carcinogen effects of nolva...

I always liked Aromasin for its 'suicide properties" which make an estrogen rebound impossible and also the fact that research has demonstrated that Aromasin minimally alters HDL, IGF-1 and increases T effectively.

-Matt
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O nice, thanks for that info! Much appreciated.
 
MattPorter said:
Preferred PCT =

Aromasin @ 25mg day
Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 @ 10cc a day
Sustain Alpha Gel @ 4 pumps day
EndoAMP @ scoops a day

GHRP-6 @ 300 mcg twice day
MOD GRF-129 @ 100 mcg twice a day
TrueNutrition GLucose Disposal Agent 2 caps before carb meals

Peri-workout drink -
30g KarboLoad
20g EAA'
10g creatine
2g glutamine

-Matt
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I find your PCT intriguing.

I've been wondering why so many utilize a substance that only blocks the estrogen receptor, when AIs are shown to effectively increase testosterone without so many negative side effects.

The purpose is to mitigate estrogens negative effect on the HPTA, but if overall less substrate is available for this (whether it be via receptor blockade or less estrogen all together) what would the difference be? Do SERMs have stimulating properties outside of simply preventing the negative feedback from estradiol levels?
 
Nolva
20/20/10/10/10/10
Clomid
50/25/25
DAA
x/x/x/x
Cortisol Control
0/0/x/x/x/x
 
I guess it depends on what your runnin... I'll be doin my injects diff ;-)
 
Low dose Torem and the TRS (I mitigate the sides from the SERM and achieve a better recovery)

I agree with some of Matt's PCT but I'm still not sold on the AI PCT theory, I'm interested in my bodies ability to recover normal hormone recovery (homeostasis) not just test...
 
kevinhy said:
I find your PCT intriguing.

I've been wondering why so many utilize a substance that only blocks the estrogen receptor, when AIs are shown to effectively increase testosterone without so many negative side effects.

The purpose is to mitigate estrogens negative effect on the HPTA, but if overall less substrate is available for this (whether it be via receptor blockade or less estrogen all together) what would the difference be? Do SERMs have stimulating properties outside of simply preventing the negative feedback from estradiol levels?
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I am under the impression that SERMS mightplay a more vital role in increasing spermatogenesis and total sperm volume for fertility assurance. as for raising testosterone -- the suicide AI (aromasin) should be more than sufficient combined with the Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
Hey JD,

I looked into Licogenix and it is VERY interesting from the brief info I read on it....I am curious and will read more.
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I've run at this twice already and can tell you its VERY nice. Most notably within the first week my libido was skyrocketing. Constantly waking up... happy. And then the other benefits trickled in for weeks on end after that!
 
I have no idea whats going on in here ;) DJ hasn't touched anything requiring a PCT yet haha.

However, I have run the Athetlix Triple Stack + Lico (including bloods) and had outstanding results. For an OTC, its where I like to hang.

Been doing some light reading on Torem and like what I'm seeing.
 
DJBeanPole said:
I have no idea whats going on in here ;) DJ hasn't touched anything requiring a PCT yet haha.

However, I have run the Athetlix Triple Stack + Lico (including bloods) and had outstanding results. For an OTC, its where I like to hang.

Been doing some light reading on Torem and like what I'm seeing.
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Did Matt just read that DJ referred to himself in 3rd person?

Also,, you really 6 foot 9?

If, so I want to get you up to 300++ lbs

-matt
 
MattPorter said:
Did Matt just read that DJ referred to himself in 3rd person?

Also,, you really 6 foot 9?

If, so I want to get you up to 300++ lbs

-matt
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lol

He really is 6'9! Used to weigh 280 when he was into the powerlifting awhile back.

yeah at 6'9 DJ could be a monster if he keeps working at it.
 
MattPorter said:
Did Matt just read that DJ referred to himself in 3rd person?

Also,, you really 6 foot 9?

If, so I want to get you up to 300++ lbs

-matt
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Haha yea I guess I did refer to myself in the third person. Don't worry, I won't go overboard with it like Bob Dole.

And yes I am 6'9. And JD is correct... when I was into powerlifting years back I ballooned up to 280lbs but I looked exactly how most powerlifters look, big and puffy, not defined and leaned like I would have preffered. I am currently lean bulking at the moment shooting for 250lbs. 300+lbs? Good lord I can't even imagine how much food I would have to eat just to maintain that. I'd be eating horses weekly.

Wouldn't mind looking like UFC's Overeem (6'5" 256lbs):

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DJBeanPole said:
Haha yea I guess I did refer to myself in the third person. Don't worry, I won't go overboard with it like Bob Dole.

And yes I am 6'9. And JD is correct... when I was into powerlifting years back I ballooned up to 280lbs but I looked exactly how most powerlifters look, big and puffy, not defined and leaned like I would have preffered. I am currently lean bulking at the moment shooting for 250lbs. 300+lbs? Good lord I can't even imagine how much food I would have to eat just to maintain that. I'd be eating horses weekly.

Wouldn't mind looking like UFC's Overeem (6'5" 256lbs):

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I am not sure how many people I have seen your height in real life lol...

BUt WOW --- if you can pack on 300 lbs --- you would be insanely imposing and gigantic.

Crazy because I get up to 270 at 5 10', 5 11' so I would imagine it wouldbe rather easy for you to get way up there,,, given the right

nutrition and hormones etc.... What exactly is your cycle experience again?

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
What exactly is your cycle experience again?
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Virgin :( haha! I just poke my head into the Anabolics to do some reading on things and see how different PH/AAS runs treat people.
 
I've seen maybe 2-3 people around your height through my whole life, at 6'9 you could turn yourself into a real life hulk lol
 
I just got done with a 16 week Test/Deca cycle. I'm nearly done with week 2 of PCT and i've actually gotten stronger while losing water. Not sure if this was because I was shut the **** down or what but here's what i'm using. I didn't use HCG.

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Aromasin - 12.5/ed
Testforce2 - 3 scoops a day, thats a serving and a half
Testopro - 6/day
Men's Virility Power by Now, good ****- 6/day
Creatine - loaded with 10g a week before pct, now 5g post workout

I just started my X-factor advanced a few days ago. I take 4 preworkout. Will be interesting to see how that works considering i've already upped most of my major lifts by 20 pounds during PCT.
 
DJBeanPole said:
Virgin :( haha! I just poke my head into the Anabolics to do some reading on things and see how different PH/AAS runs treat people.
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Hmm you wanna let me know when you want to delve into some safe hormonal enhancement? I would love to fill out that frame with muscle and minimal fat accrual.

-Matt
 
TxHomeGrown said:
I just got done with a 16 week Test/Deca cycle. I'm nearly done with week 2 of PCT and i've actually gotten stronger while losing water. Not sure if this was because I was shut the **** down or what but here's what i'm using. I didn't use HCG.

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Aromasin - 12.5/ed
Testforce2 - 3 scoops a day, thats a serving and a half
Testopro - 6/day
Men's Virility Power by Now, good ****- 6/day
Creatine - loaded with 10g a week before pct, now 5g post workout

I just started my X-factor advanced a few days ago. I take 4 preworkout. Will be interesting to see how that works considering i've already upped most of my major lifts by 20 pounds during PCT.
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Were you pleased with the cycle test/deca cycle?
 
JudgementDay said:
I wanna hear everyones go to PCT stack and or which PCT do you plan on running next:)


I got a test/anavar cycle coming up and this is what I plan on running for PCT, would love to hear everyones go to PCT.

4 weeks
Torem- Invalid Link Removed
Formula-X- 2 scoops a day
Endosurge- 6 caps a day
Licogenix- 4 caps a day

Then I switch to,

4 weeks
Titanium XL- 4 caps a day
Division 1- 6 caps a day
Sustain Alpha- 4 pumps a day
Endoamp- 1 scoop a day
ErasePro- 1 cap a day EOD
Anabeta Elite- 4 caps a day
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Perfect...if it aint broke dont fix it
 
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