Fumoney - Recompadrol/AAV2/Natty-V Log (Sponsored by Enhanced Body Formulations)

I have to try this next week when I do legs... sounds agonizingly good!

It is, and of course, wear combat boots on leg day ;)

I started to add this to my routine not long ago,
weights went up a lot on bb squats and separation on my quads/legs in general
improved a lot.
Altho', that's also because I use occlusion training for legs and arms,
but I don't advice that unless one really knows what is doing. (and unless your life
doesn't require you to have to walk anywhere for the following 3 days)
 
It is, and of course, wear combat boots on leg day ;)

I started to add this to my routine not long ago,
weights went up a lot on bb squats and separation on my quads/legs in general
improved a lot.
Altho', that's also because I use occlusion training for legs and arms,
but I don't advice that unless one really knows what is doing. (and unless your life
doesn't require you to have to walk anywhere for the following 3 days)

Is occlusion training where you restrict the blood to the muscle with a tie off or something along those lines?
 
Day 8 (7/11)

Supplements:
1 cap Natty V with 2 caps of Recompadrol 30 minutes prior to meal
1 cap Natty V with 2 caps AAv2 90 minutes post meal


Diet:
Calorie Deficit (2,259 calories)

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Workout:
Lifting - Legs (23 sets)

Strength - I had good strength during lifting.
Workout Energy - Energy still waning for cardio. RecoverPro coming tomorrow.
Normal Energy - Tired all day. Really tired.
Appetite - Still very low.
Recovery - DOMS have all but gone away.
Libido - Consistently good.
Skin condition - Small breakouts coming. Skin a bit oily.


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Summary:
Second day of trying to recover energy. I am taking in more BCAA - up to 24 grams and more carbs. Energy was still low, but better than yesterday. My DOMS have finally gone away as well. Looks like 4 lift days followed by rest day followed by softball is the schedule I will follow on a 6 day cycle. From this point forth, I am reducing workload slightly as well - about 20% less.

Skin felt oily today and i could feel breakouts coming. Libido is still high physically and mentally.

Getting back to lifting today. I am now going with 7 set pyramid followed by 2 x 8 sets of supporting exercises. I may add variety to this workout as well. Leg day today, so right to Leg Extensions and Leg Curls. I knew I was not doing as many sets, so I made sure to go slower to get a better feel. My quads felt rock hard after I was done with veins showing on inner thighs and calves. I worked the leg press next and it felt great. Taking out the middle 3 sets definitely made things easier, but mentally this progression felt awesome. That's it. 23 sets and I am done. I hope I did enough. i think I did as I had difficulty walking.

Still no thermo effect. I am giving it another week before assessing. My muscles are pumped all day and vascularity has improved ridiculously. No water retention and bloating is under control after meals. All good on this front.

Normally working back tomorrow, but i am changing things up to give my triceps a break.

Order is now - leg - shoulders - back - chest

Onto tomorrow.


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Workout Details:

Leg Extensions (8 sets static)

120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8

Leg Curls (8 sets static)

120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8

Leg Press (7 sets pyramid)

180 x 15
230 x 15
270 x 15
320 x 15
370 x 15
390 x 15
410 x 15
 
I have read / heard if you don't do it correctly you can really mess yourself up? and never to go above 50% of your 1RM?

Also wouldn't mind you going into further detail.

Yes, it can be very dangerous
I've been doing it for quite some time, now I am experienced enough not
to have to lower my loads, I go full power but like I said, the pain is excruciating..
But let's not hijack fumoney's log here :D
 
Have you tried taking 1 recompadrol pre workout or pre cardio?
Definitely helps with extra ooomph.
Love it pre workout then pre cardio.
4 per day. So good
 
runner_79 said:
Have you tried taking 1 recompadrol pre workout or pre cardio?
Definitely helps with extra ooomph.
Love it pre workout then pre cardio.
4 per day. So good

No, just following dosing as exactly described in the initial log request. I am currently taking 6 now. All pre-meal. Are you saying I can add 4 more to this to make it 10 per day ? Or not take it pre-meal on certain days and take it before workout ?
 
fumoney said:
No, just following dosing as exactly described in the initial log request. I am currently taking 6 now. All pre-meal. Are you saying I can add 4 more to this to make it 10 per day ? Or not take it pre-meal on certain days and take it before workout ?

Use 1 for smaller kcal meals and add the extra to pre workout.
Can try it but that's up to you. I love it this way. Stay at 6 caps per day bro.

Good times
 
runner_79 said:
Use 1 for smaller kcal meals and add the extra to pre workout.
Can try it but that's up to you. I love it this way. Stay at 6 caps per day bro.

Good times

Thanks runner. I will definitely try that.
 
Any time man.
If ppl try diff things, it helps us determine for future products on what YOU guys like.

-Chris
 
Have you tried pre workout as of yet? Or empty stomach?

Thermo effect is more pronounced when taken 15-20 min pre meal
 
EBF Inc said:
Have you tried pre workout as of yet? Or empty stomach?

Thermo effect is more pronounced when taken 15-20 min pre meal

I dose empty stomach
 
EBF Inc said:
Have you tried pre workout as of yet? Or empty stomach?

Thermo effect is more pronounced when taken 15-20 min pre meal

Are you talking about Recompadrol or AAV2 ? I am taking Reconpadrol 15-20 min pre meal on empty stomach.
 
fumoney said:
Are you talking about Recompadrol or AAV2 ? I am taking Reconpadrol 15-20 min pre meal on empty stomach.

For example after overnight fast dosing the aav2

Or taking aav2 15-20 min pre meal

The thermo effect from capsaicin is diminished as is the heart burn with dosing guidelines I gave.

I recommend trying 2-3 cap prior to your highest cal meal with your recompadrol if you really want to feel it
 
EBF Inc said:
For example after overnight fast dosing the aav2

Or taking aav2 15-20 min pre meal

The thermo effect from capsaicin is diminished as is the heart burn with dosing guidelines I gave.

I recommend trying 2-3 cap prior to your highest cal meal with your recompadrol if you really want to feel it

OK EBF inc. I will try. However, the bottle label does not say taking pre meal as a possible option. Just post meal. Just saying.

So instead of taking + Natty V pre meal and AAV2 + Natty V post meal.................take Recompadrol + AAV2 + Natty V pre meal ???
 
EBF Inc said:
Yea. Play with it. If eating carbs definitely try consuming a few aav2 pre meal with recomp and natty v.

Thank you for all the tips EBF Inc.
 
fumoney said:
Thank you for all the tips EBF Inc.

No problem man.

Remember you can go as high as doubling the dose of each product on a bad eating day. It'll save you from too much spillover and damage

The ultimate bandaid for bad meals
 
Recompadrol and Natty V dosed. Added in AAV2 to see what's up. Mmmmmmm......omelet with chicken onion and scallion.


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wasme said:
You are right, sorry about that FU

No problem. I was interested in Autokal's response as well !
 
Your meal looks *gooooood* Fu' :D and very colorful lol

Anyways, since you were interested too, here's a lil info on the occlusion training.
First thing I wanna say is this technique has been around for quite a while and
is actually backed up with pretty solid studies showing great results in both
strength and muscle size increase, and improved vascularity and hypertrophy.
I personally experienced all of the above.
I used for arms and legs and the idea is obviously to block the blood flow
going to the trained muscle/muscle group by using a blood pressure cuff.
Ideally one should use the same cuffs used for the kaatsu training (the ones
used for the studies) but they are expensive and hard to find (japan only i think)

The blood pressure cuffs are good because you will know the actual pressure
applied but I find them very uncomfortable.
So alternatively you can use, well, pretty much whatever works, I personally use
knee wraps for legs, you wrap 'em right there below your crotch, I go down to just
above my knee, and a tourniquet for my arms or other rubber band that I have.

Another alternative (and what I advice you to start with) is a compression wrap,
the ones used when you're injured for example because they don't apply much pressure.

Now, please guys keep in mind that this technique IS dangerous, too much pressure,
or pressure for extended period of time can cause REAL damage.
So start light and keep your loads low, high reps, try it first and watch it..

Now I am to the point in which I use the same weight I was using 2 months ago
without occlusion, with the occlusion (applying pressure will make the muscle weaker,
less reps etc.. so the strength increase here is great), actually I just broke PR on bb squats
two days ago (and I'm still unable to walk..)

I could give you a guideline to begin with, actually I'll copy/paste it:

Add occlusion work at the end of a typical leg or arm day.
First set: 30 reps with 20 percent of one-rep max

Three subsequent sets: 15 reps with 20 percent of one-rep max, taking 30 seconds of rest between sets
Four sets to failure with 50 percent of one-rep max, taking 30 seconds of rest between sets
Four sets to failure with 50 percent one-rep max, taking one minute of rest between sets
Note: Do not remove the occlusion device until you’ve completed all of the sets.

This is good to begin with and everyone can then experiment and
see what works best for them, I actually do the heavy lifting with the
cuffs on and keep 'em a lot longer, but again, don't do it right away,
you might NEVER do that.. I'm crazy and a freak everyone knows that
and someday I'll die crushed by weights or by the volume of my workouts :D
So, be safe!!
 
AutoKal47 said:
Your meal looks *gooooood* Fu' :D and very colorful lol

Anyways, since you were interested too, here's a lil info on the occlusion training.
First thing I wanna say is this technique has been around for quite a while and
is actually backed up with pretty solid studies showing great results in both
strength and muscle size increase, and improved vascularity and hypertrophy.
I personally experienced all of the above.
I used for arms and legs and the idea is obviously to block the blood flow
going to the trained muscle/muscle group by using a blood pressure cuff.
Ideally one should use the same cuffs used for the kaatsu training (the ones
used for the studies) but they are expensive and hard to find (japan only i think)

The blood pressure cuffs are good because you will know the actual pressure
applied but I find them very uncomfortable.
So alternatively you can use, well, pretty much whatever works, I personally use
knee wraps for legs, you wrap 'em right there below your crotch, I go down to just
above my knee, and a tourniquet for my arms or other rubber band that I have.

Another alternative (and what I advice you to start with) is a compression wrap,
the ones used when you're injured for example because they don't apply much pressure.

Now, please guys keep in mind that this technique IS dangerous, too much pressure,
or pressure for extended period of time can cause REAL damage.
So start light and keep your loads low, high reps, try it first and watch it..

Now I am to the point in which I use the same weight I was using 2 months ago
without occlusion, with the occlusion (applying pressure will make the muscle weaker,
less reps etc.. so the strength increase here is great), actually I just broke PR on bb squats
two days ago (and I'm still unable to walk..)

I could give you a guideline to begin with, actually I'll copy/paste it:

Add occlusion work at the end of a typical leg or arm day.
First set: 30 reps with 20 percent of one-rep max
Three subsequent sets: 15 reps with 20 percent of one-rep max, taking 30 seconds of rest between sets
Four sets to failure with 50 percent of one-rep max, taking 30 seconds of rest between sets
Four sets to failure with 50 percent one-rep max, taking one minute of rest between sets
Note: Do not remove the occlusion device until you've completed all of the sets.

This is good to begin with and everyone can then experiment and
see what works best for them, I actually do the heavy lifting with the
cuffs on and keep 'em a lot longer, but again, don't do it right away,
you might NEVER do that.. I'm crazy and a freak everyone knows that
and someday I'll die crushed by weights or by the volume of my workouts :D
So, be safe!!

Is there any post training discolouration?
 
AutoKal47 said:
Your meal looks *gooooood* Fu' :D and very colorful lol

Thanks Autokal. Maybe a bit too much of the ketchup/ hot sauce mix ! :)

Your training looks intense. I never heard of it before.
 
Been peeing like crazy today. I don't think I drank that much liquid....weird.
 
Is there any post training discolouration?

not sure what you mean here bro..
If you talk about pwo side effect, aside from the barely bearable pain,
and the fact that you can't count on the trained muscle the next day or two, no.
But that's normal for me, even without occlusion, so..

Thanks Autokal. Maybe a bit too much of the ketchup/ hot sauce mix ! :)

Your training looks intense. I never heard of it before.

You're running the perfect stack to have some more sauce on your plate man :D
Yeah, and that's nothing believe me.. lol my training is beyond failure and real damage really..
 
Ok bro you gota get ready to write your book!!!! That's insane pyramid man and your legs turning into oak trees!!! Like the pic of meal too making me hungry what time is dinner?

Day 8 (7/11)

Supplements:
1 cap Natty V with 2 caps of Recompadrol 30 minutes prior to meal
1 cap Natty V with 2 caps AAv2 90 minutes post meal


Diet:
Calorie Deficit (2,259 calories)

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Workout:
Lifting - Legs (23 sets)

Strength - I had good strength during lifting.
Workout Energy - Energy still waning for cardio. RecoverPro coming tomorrow.
Normal Energy - Tired all day. Really tired.
Appetite - Still very low.
Recovery - DOMS have all but gone away.
Libido - Consistently good.
Skin condition - Small breakouts coming. Skin a bit oily.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++

Summary:
Second day of trying to recover energy. I am taking in more BCAA - up to 24 grams and more carbs. Energy was still low, but better than yesterday. My DOMS have finally gone away as well. Looks like 4 lift days followed by rest day followed by softball is the schedule I will follow on a 6 day cycle. From this point forth, I am reducing workload slightly as well - about 20% less.

Skin felt oily today and i could feel breakouts coming. Libido is still high physically and mentally.

Getting back to lifting today. I am now going with 7 set pyramid followed by 2 x 8 sets of supporting exercises. I may add variety to this workout as well. Leg day today, so right to Leg Extensions and Leg Curls. I knew I was not doing as many sets, so I made sure to go slower to get a better feel. My quads felt rock hard after I was done with veins showing on inner thighs and calves. I worked the leg press next and it felt great. Taking out the middle 3 sets definitely made things easier, but mentally this progression felt awesome. That's it. 23 sets and I am done. I hope I did enough. i think I did as I had difficulty walking.

Still no thermo effect. I am giving it another week before assessing. My muscles are pumped all day and vascularity has improved ridiculously. No water retention and bloating is under control after meals. All good on this front.

Normally working back tomorrow, but i am changing things up to give my triceps a break.

Order is now - leg - shoulders - back - chest

Onto tomorrow.


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Workout Details:

Leg Extensions (8 sets static)

120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8

Leg Curls (8 sets static)

120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8
120 x 8

Leg Press (7 sets pyramid)

180 x 15
230 x 15
270 x 15
320 x 15
370 x 15
390 x 15
410 x 15
 
packers6211 said:
Ok bro you gota get ready to write your book!!!! That's insane pyramid man and your legs turning into oak trees!!! Like the pic of meal too making me hungry what time is dinner?

Thank you Pack !!!
I love the leg press. For me, it feels like a full body exercise as I am drained head to toe once I am done. I love it.
 
To all,

I am now upping BCAA to 36 grams per day. 18 prior and during workout and 18 mixed in a lot of water to drink throughout the day.

Q1 - can I add this to macro as 36 grams of protein ingested per day ?

Q2 - I can drink this brand every hour of every day. Anything wrong with that ? Just drinking it throughout the day ? I am OK if I am not getting max benefit of BCAA use throughout the day as long as it can be considered as decent protein ingested. Don't worry about cost.

Q3 - some people mentioned that it messes up with insulin level if I just drink it like water without exercise involved. What do you think ? Please answer considering myself being on the Recompadrol stack and also myself being off this stack.

Thank you all in advance.
 
fumoney said:
To all,

I am now upping BCAA to 36 grams per day. 18 prior and during workout and 18 mixed in a lot of water to drink throughout the day.

Q1 - can I add this to macro as 36 grams of protein ingested per day ?

Q2 - I can drink this brand every hour of every day. Anything wrong with that ? Just drinking it throughout the day ? I am OK if I am not getting max benefit of BCAA use throughout the day as long as it can be considered as decent protein ingested. Don't worry about cost.

Q3 - some people mentioned that it messes up with insulin level if I just drink it like water without exercise involved. What do you think ? Please answer considering myself being on the Recompadrol stack and also myself being off this stack.

Thank you all in advance.

I Never add bcaas tp my macros. Never hindered my progress

You do the same thing I do with sipping through the day. All good there.

Dont worry bout the insulin it only rises from leucine in presence of carbohydrates
 
EBF Inc said:
I Never add bcaas tp my macros. Never hindered my progress

You do the same thing I do with sipping through the day. All good there.

Dont worry bout the insulin it only rises from leucine in presence of carbohydrates

Thank you Sir !!!
 
Damn I feel lean today.
 
Is there evidence to use eaa's while eating to increase protein synthesis
 
Energy is back and I felt great today !

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Day 9 (7/12)
Alert - video link of smith front shoulder press under workout details.

Supplements:
1 cap Natty V with 2 caps of Recompadrol 30 minutes prior to meal
1 cap Natty V with 2 caps AAv2 90 minutes post meal


Diet:
Calorie Normal (2,511 calories)

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Workout:
Lifting - Shoulders (29 sets)

Strength - Felt very strong from the get go. I am not only maintaining strength, but gaining.
Workout Energy - Much better energy today. Will give it one more day before attempting cardio.
Normal Energy - Feeling much better. Still slightly sluggish.
Appetite - No appetite......period.
Recovery - No muscle soreness. However, my wrist is acting up again and my right elbow is starting to hurt.
Libido - Had a test and passed with flying colors.
Skin condition - Skin is definitely oily now.


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Summary:
I think I am almost there. I felt much better today with a mild bout of sluggishness in the afternoon.

My hunger has disappeared in the last few days. I have to literally remind myself to eat. No hunger pangs or stomach growling.

My skin is oily, so I guess there is a rise in T-level ? Perhaps, Natty V ?? Something to monitor. In relation, libido continues to be strong. Had a nice time with my GF last night and everything worked exceptionally. Usually dont have any issues there, but it was more intense than normal.

I think things are starting to kick in as I get to about a 1 1/2 week point of this stack. I think this is normal when taking natural supplements. Can't wait to see what the remaining 20 days will bring.

Today was a shoulder day. One of my favorites. I wanted to cut volume like yesterday, but I felt so strong that I did not want to stop. Another PR on the smith machine shoulder press. Now at 280 lbs x 3 reps. Awesome !!! I expected to see some strength loss, but the beat goes on for now and I am loving it. Laterals, Rear Delt and Upright rows left me feeling pumped, strong and veiny. Quick check in the mirror shows that I am starting to lean out a bit. Trigger has hit. Anticipation is killing me now.

Onto tomorrow.


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Workout Details:

Smith Machine Shoulder Front Press (8 sets pyramid)

135 x 8
185 x 8
205 x 8
225 x 8
245 x 5
265 x 5
275 x 4
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280 x 3 PR !!!

Machine Laterals (8 sets static)

100 x 8
100 x 8
100 x 8
100 x 8
100 x 8
100 x 8
100 x 8
100 x 8

Rear Deltoid Machine (8 sets static)

75 x 8
75 x 8
75 x 8
75 x 8
75 x 8
75 x 8
75 x 8
75 x 8

Barbell Upright Row (5 sets static)

95 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
 
Progress brah. Nice blurry pic man. What is this, a teenage girl's facebook profile ;)? Even from that, can still see the progress being maddddeeee!!!

Making ALL KINDS of GAINNNNS.
 
Just saw that PR video too (missed it the first time). You work out in a hat too! lol! I wish the supp companies made more hats man I wear those things all the TIMMMME. Nice set Bubba! Next time film it horizontal ;)
 
DJBeanPole said:
Just saw that PR video too (missed it the first time). You work out in a hat too! lol! I wish the supp companies made more hats man I wear those things all the TIMMMME. Nice set Bubba! Next time film it horizontal ;)

I workout in an ON beanie.. I wish more companies made Them for sure..
 
DJBeanPole said:
Progress brah. Nice blurry pic man. What is this, a teenage girl's facebook profile ;)? Even from that, can still see the progress being maddddeeee!!!

Making ALL KINDS of GAINNNNS.

Ha...trying to hit that button on the phone while holding it somewhat steady. Thanks DJ. Appreciate the comment.
 
DJBeanPole said:
Just saw that PR video too (missed it the first time). You work out in a hat too! lol! I wish the supp companies made more hats man I wear those things all the TIMMMME. Nice set Bubba! Next time film it horizontal ;)

I am pretty sure I am going bald soon. Better get used to the hat. I will try horizontal angle next time.
 
chedapalooza said:
Killer video- looking boss Fu for real

Full rom on those presses.. I think u had 1 or two more in ya too

Even on smith, I wasn't sure. If I had a spotter I would have went for more I think.

Thanks cheda !
 
Great job on that PR man. That weight is really impressive.
 
breezy11 said:
Great job on that PR man. That weight is really impressive.

Thank you Breezy. I am really surprised I am maintaining strength so far. I am waiting for that proverbial shoe to drop.
 
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