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Low dose cycle, peptides. Lets see the results.

Maybe water retention, what u eat yesterday
 
csa2179 said:
I've read that caber can cause heart issues related to ischemia I believe. I'm going to run ruduce xt/ forma as a preventative.

Forma is good for lowering cortisol, estrogen and dht, stuffs great... And I really hope my heart hasn't had lowered blood flow which causes tissue damage and cellular death :/
 
madds87 said:
huh interesting.... well.fellas done know why but I weight 180 this morning lol

Is that a good or bad thing? Im happy when I get heavier, and get stressed when my weight goes down... If you're still looking lean like the last pic, then that sounds good to me. I'm about to place my order, you've made me real excited about running this.
 
Those sides with caber are only associated with high doses. Like 1mg+ ed. The study I read shows that 1mg every week had no long term side effects. I will try to find it for you bro.
 
DangerDave said:
Those sides with caber are only associated with high doses. Like 1mg+ ed. The study I read shows that 1mg every week had no long term side effects. I will try to find it for you bro.

Ya I think I read that somewhere too now that I think about it. Caber is super effective for libido and prolactin control at just .5-1.5 mg a week. Super long half life allows long lasting effect.
 
smash1904 said:
Ya I think I read that somewhere too now that I think about it. Caber is super effective for libido and prolactin control at just .5-1.5 mg a week. Super long half life allows long lasting effect.

Yeah I take .5mg ew through a whole cycle for its libido effects. I love it and so does the old lady.
 
cool thanks guys, so take like .25 mon & Thur
 
smash1904 said:
Is that a good or bad thing? Im happy when I get heavier, and get stressed when my weight goes down... If you're still looking lean like the last pic, then that sounds good to me. I'm about to place my order, you've made me real excited about running this.

yeah man looking leaner than ever... so I guess im getti.g lean mass... finally moving along... my body might of.had to get used to the diet I dunno
 
Way to crush it!! Are u injecting in to ab fat. Cuz I am and today I did arm supersets then came in imeadiatly to inject post work out and couldnt jab it in. I think my arms were just dead. I've done a few IM in the quad, but I get nervous and drill the ****ing needle in all the way to the plastic. Any tips, I'm prepping to my first test cycle and Wang to get use to pinning. Oh and what the **** does pip mean, as in the pip's not bad.
 
csa2179 said:
Way to crush it!! Are u injecting in to ab fat. Cuz I am and today I did arm supersets then came in imeadiatly to inject post work out and couldnt jab it in. I think my arms were just dead. I've done a few IM in the quad, but I get nervous and drill the ****ing needle in all the way to the plastic. Any tips, I'm prepping to my first test cycle and Wang to get use to pinning. Oh and what the **** does pip mean, as in the pip's not bad.

Pip?
 
Way to crush it!! Are u injecting in to ab fat. Cuz I am and today I did arm supersets then came in imeadiatly to inject post work out and couldnt jab it in. I think my arms were just dead. I've done a few IM in the quad, but I get nervous and drill the ****ing needle in all the way to the plastic. Any tips, I'm prepping to my first test cycle and Wang to get use to pinning. Oh and what the **** does pip mean, as in the pip's not bad.

Best place to pin test is upper outter quadrant of thigh, about a hand length down the thigh starting from the hip. Does not hurt going in and has minimal "pip" afterwards. Otherwise try the glutes or mid deltoids if ur shoulders r big enough.
 
DangerDave said:
Post injection pain

Ohhhh, ya I get pip with most places, quads is the best place for me too. I just sit and hit the upper leg. If your leg is straight out on a couch or bed and you relax the muscle you shouldn't feel much of anything - hands length below crotch hands length above knee, outer side is best for me. Ive tried delt and glutes and always hated it cause you could feel the pip if you walked or moved your arm, but with that area of quad you'll only really feel it if you poke it, like you got kicked or something. I actually did bicep once, didn't hurt but it bruised and was really obvious what I had done.

Oh and I don't know about anyone else but I haven't had problems just going back n fourth between quads, even on every day injections.
 
Ohhhh, ya I get pip with most places, quads is the best place for me too. I just sit and hit the upper leg. If your leg is straight out on a couch or bed and you relax the muscle you shouldn't feel much of anything - hands length below crotch hands length above knee, outer side is best for me. Ive tried delt and glutes and always hated it cause you could feel the pip if you walked or moved your arm, but with that area of quad you'll only really feel it if you poke it, like you got kicked or something. I actually did bicep once, didn't hurt but it bruised and was really obvious what I had done.

Oh and I don't know about anyone else but I haven't had problems just going back n fourth between quads, even on every day injections.

U r 100% correct
 
Cool thanks. I have a ton of 29guage needles, do I need a bigger one for test e
 
holding 180 weight. im'switching up my peptides again... im only doing a shot pre workout and on post.... &at 100 mg each... the pumps are amazing!!! sleep is great and strong.... feel great even after six hours of sleep... recovering farely quick.
 
csa2179 said:
Way to crush it!! Are u injecting in to ab fat. Cuz I am and today I did arm supersets then came in imeadiatly to inject post work out and couldnt jab it in. I think my arms were just dead. I've done a few IM in the quad, but I get nervous and drill the ****ing needle in all the way to the plastic. Any tips, I'm prepping to my first test cycle and Wang to get use to pinning. Oh and what the **** does pip mean, as in the pip's not bad.

I always shoot im... makes it get into the system faster. and if the needle is dull doesnt hurt as bad...
 
csa2179 said:
Cool thanks. I have a ton of 29guage needles, do I need a bigger one for test e

I use a 23 gauge to inject Test E.
 
madds87 said:
I always shoot im... makes it get into the system faster. and if the needle is dull doesnt hurt as bad...

Yeah I've been really impressed with my recovery time & my weight has gone up. I attributed it to my natural test production turning back on after my cycle but the past week I've been lifting like a crazy person. And yeah jabbing a dull 29 in the ab fat is kind of a mother ****er. I'm going all quads from here on our. I'm running hex/modgrf during the day and ghrp2//modgrf at night for a total of 3 shots.
 
DangerDave said:
I use a 23 gauge to inject Test E.

I'll have to order more, was just trying to save a few bucks
 
csa2179 said:
Yeah I've been really impressed with my recovery time & my weight has gone up. I attributed it to my natural test production turning back on after my cycle but the past week I've been lifting like a crazy person. And yeah jabbing a dull 29 in the ab fat is kind of a mother ****er. I'm going all quads from here on our. I'm running hex/modgrf during the day and ghrp2//modgrf at night for a total of 3 shots.

mine is shot in delts
 
madds87 said:
mine is shot in delts

I'll try this in the next day or two.
 
It's getting up the nerve to do it. The only time it hurt was using a dull needle in the ab's. Nothing else has hurt so far
 
It's getting up the nerve to do it. The only time it hurt was using a dull needle in the ab's. Nothing else has hurt so far

Dude if you load up 500mg of test into a 25g, you won't be thinking about that pain of that injection one hour later.
:woohoo:
In fact, using a 25g and having some patience (about 45-75 seconds), you can easily pin test and never leave a bruise and only have minimal soreness. Can't say the same about Proprionate though - it hurts. No way around it either. However, in any case, within 3-4 weeks of taking anything injection, your body will get accustomed to it and have no soreness at all from thereafter.

If we're still talking about insulin needles then I am ashamed, lol. These things are inconsequential...
 
I used a 25g this morning, no problem. Just slid right in. Still haven't pinned the delt:(
 
I'm doing 125mg test prop every other day, no problem. Barely even feel that in my leg, and that's supposed to be the worst, so I think you're body will even get used to that... I was going to end my cycle early, but I've yet to get my peptides so I'm prolly going to bring my dose down to 62.5mg test prop every other day tell I get em - don't want just a serm for pct.

Am I the only one feeling this threads gotten hijacked a little bit? How's the cycle going?
 
Haha yeah sorry to the Op. but his thread brought out some good discussion and ideas. I'm very greatful for this log I've learned alot
 
smash1904 said:
I'm doing 125mg test prop every other day, no problem. Barely even feel that in my leg, and that's supposed to be the worst, so I think you're body will even get used to that... I was going to end my cycle early, but I've yet to get my peptides so I'm prolly going to bring my dose down to 62.5mg test prop every other day tell I get em - don't want just a serm for pct.

Am I the only one feeling this threads gotten hijacked a little bit? How's the cycle going?

haha slightly.....
naw everything is going well fellas. I dont really ever update every single day... but I update if I find something different or the dosages are chamging.... which to keep everyone updated.i noticed three times daily at 100mcg on both peps... seemed strong... and since it was expensive... im back down to 100mcg morning on non workout days. and 100 mcg on preworkout days. hunger sucks. but I have learned to.bare through it. and the workout.pumps are incredible... the pumps stay with.me throughout the day....
pct is going very smooth still on it...
I havent noticed any strength.gains.gone. by the way.... im even stronger lol.... kinda funny... cals still at 4,000. diet will suck these two weeks ahead. work is sending me to va for class... to get my a.b. diet and working out will be.interesting.... ill figure it out when I get there though... ill let yall know... anyone.have any ideas?
 
also the bulk one carboxy is.making sagnificant difference with.my.peptides.... so something to try fellas...
 
madds87 said:
also the bulk one carboxy is.making sagnificant difference with.my.peptides.... so something to try fellas...
How are u using this and what have u noticed?
 
bulk one is compareble to 2 iu of gh. I take it before bed. sleep is deep.... deep deep... body revovering very quickly. on top of the peptides. and im doing some very intense workouts.... I send home my buddies crying lol... pumps were tooo intense on three times daily on peps including bulk one. plus im getting the fat burning iwant at this dose and its cheaper. just a little expirementing ;) my protein imtake is still at 180-200.
 
Nice ill check it out!
 
That's crazy, I ****ing love poop. It's 2012 everything should come in capsule form
 
madds87 said:
haha slightly.....
naw everything is going well fellas. I dont really ever update every single day... but I update if I find something different or the dosages are chamging.... which to keep everyone updated.i noticed three times daily at 100mcg on both peps... seemed strong... and since it was expensive... im back down to 100mcg morning on non workout days. and 100 mcg on preworkout days. hunger sucks. but I have learned to.bare through it. and the workout.pumps are incredible... the pumps stay with.me throughout the day....
pct is going very smooth still on it...
I havent noticed any strength.gains.gone. by the way.... im even stronger lol.... kinda funny... cals still at 4,000. diet will suck these two weeks ahead. work is sending me to va for class... to get my a.b. diet and working out will be.interesting.... ill figure it out when I get there though... ill let yall know... anyone.have any ideas?

Take weight gainer and casein with you, mix with milk. Easy to carry, and I het they have a fridge where ur going. If they don't have gym equipment you can always water bag... Double bag heavy garbage bags, put as much water as you want and after sealing it up put it in a travel bag.
 
Or u could rep it out with push ups and pull ups. When I go out of town I do 1000 push ups in. An hour. That's around 17 per minute. I do them then rest for my left over time each minute.
 
csa2179 said:
Or u could rep it out with push ups and pull ups. When I go out of town I do 1000 push ups in. An hour. That's around 17 per minute. I do them then rest for my left over time each minute.

1000!?!?! you lost your freekin mind lol... guess that would do it lol
 
Naw it's easier than it sounds. Set the timer on your phone for 1 hour. Hit start them rep out 10-17. Then drop one knee to the ground and rest for the left over min. 10 a min =600 pushups that's what I started at know I can do 17 a minute
 
csa2179 said:
Naw it's easier than it sounds. Set the timer on your phone for 1 hour. Hit start them rep out 10-17. Then drop one knee to the ground and rest for the left over min. 10 a min =600 pushups that's what I started at know I can do 17 a minute

nice! ill try it. my chest blows up on push ups
 
I'd like to try it too, but wouldn't doing that many regularly mess you're shoulders up? Like 1000 sounds like you'd over work your em a bit if you did that every week. Haha and then I remember gh would repair damaged tissue >:)
 
I normally only do that once a month. Or while I'm traveling. I don't think I have the drive to do it once a week
 
I was doing around 1000-2000 push ups a day plus 2000-2500 sit ups 4-5 days a week but it gets mental. I would drop down n do 100 every so often through out the day. Some days I would finish at noon some days at 5pm. It stressed me out to much worrying about getting them in.
 
That sucks, um I do mine 1 hour pre work out, I'm liking it, I was doing one post but my arms get so pumped I have a hard time holding the tiny needle. I'm also doing one am and pm, some times I throw in a shot of modgrf/hex at saturation post workout, too! If my arms are workjng
 
csa2179 said:
That sucks, um I do mine 1 hour pre work out, I'm liking it, I was doing one post but my arms get so pumped I have a hard time holding the tiny needle. I'm also doing one am and pm, some times I throw in a shot of modgrf/hex at saturation post workout, too! If my arms are workjng

Interesting, I always had the thought of preworkout dosing since all the natural GH products dose preworkout too.

Hear great things about the post too (but only with the 3x's/day) it seems.
 
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