Sodium Ursolic Acetate topical spray

[bigdavid]

there was a lot of debate over this rule when it was created

Interesting, I guess DMAA was not "grandfathered" in.

 

[dsade]

there was a lot of debate over this rule when it was created

Debate meaning a whole lot of controversy and the FDA basically tossing up the old middle finger to everyone?

 

[EasyEJL]

Debate meaning a whole lot of controversy and the FDA basically tossing up the old middle finger to everyone?

yes, pretty much, just like the "Affordable Care Act" got debate

 

[dsade]

yes, pretty much, just like the "Affordable Care Act" got debate

Hell, much like the PATRIOT ACT, they didn't even bother to READ that one.

 

[T-Bone]

Wait...what is the title of this thread again?

 

[Patrick Arnold]

I was more referring to if DMAA was produced from a natural source, this would not even be an issue right now. If it was derived from a natural source, wouldn't it still be allowed to be used in supplements?

ephedrine was derived from a natural source (ma Huang. ephedra) and they managed to get that banned from diet/energy supplements

 

[Patrick Arnold]

there was a lot of debate over this rule when it was created

other parts of DSHEA seem to indicate that NDI application is not required

its ambiguous

 

[EasyEJL]

other parts of DSHEA seem to indicate that NDI application is not required

its ambiguous

yeah, from a strict reading of the DSHEA, the NDI makes no sense in at the very least the part of showing safety. Perhaps an NDI showing scientific proof of its natural food chain origin would make sense. But safety data? it really goes contrary to the DSHEA in the first place. The whole point of allowing food chain sourced items is that they generally are more likely to be safe (since they are already eaten)

 

[bigdavid]

ephedrine was derived from a natural source (ma Huang. ephedra) and they managed to get that banned from diet/energy supplements

Come to think of it that was a stupid question.. Marijuana is banned too and it is "naturally derived". I guess what it comes down to is if the govt/fda wants to ban something they will.

 

[henryv]

A closer look at Prototype Nutrition's Ursolic Acid spray: Invalid Link Removed

 

[Cool]

ETA on next batch?

 

[henryv]

ETA on next batch?

hopefully next week or the week after. i am awaiting materials to make the active

^^^

 

[Cool]

Anyone care to convert or make an educated guess on UR sprays = Ursobilc caps? Like 50 sprays = 20 caps Urso?

 

[Patrick Arnold]

Anyone care to convert or make an educated guess on UR sprays = Ursobilc caps? Like 50 sprays = 20 caps Urso?

no one can guess nor do i give them permission to guess

 

[dsade]

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Wait, what was the question?

 

[Cool]

no one can guess nor do i give them permission to guess

So you are saying you couldn't figure it out? j/k I thought it was a good question

 

[Patrick Arnold]

So you are saying you couldn't figure it out? j/k I thought it was a good question

how could it possibly be figured out?

 

[Spaniard]

Hey PA, if you could clear Pms thank you sir