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Agmatine..gods gift?

I tried primaforce, sold it.
John sent me some AI caps using those now.
How is the SNS caps different?
Either way I haven't noticed any huge pumps from it, maybe a slight swell buy nothing earth shattering.... As of yet.
 
AaronJP1 said:
I tried primaforce, sold it.
John sent me some AI caps using those now.
How is the SNS caps different?
Either way I haven't noticed any huge pumps from it, maybe a slight swell buy nothing earth shattering.... As of yet.
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I have no explanation for why SNS may be better othan than the fact that other brands may be getting duped on the raws. The feedback between users who have used other brands and SNS is pretty confusing; I've seen a TON of such cases on bb.com.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I have no explanation for why SNS may be better othan than the fact that other brands may be getting duped on the raws. The feedback between users who have used other brands and SNS is pretty confusing; I've seen a TON of such cases on bb.com.
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Thx Coop.
SNS is on my next to try list... That's for sure.
 
AaronJP1 said:
I tried primaforce, sold it.
John sent me some AI caps using those now.
How is the SNS caps different?
Either way I haven't noticed any huge pumps from it, maybe a slight swell buy nothing earth shattering.... As of yet.
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Each co. Raws are different .. I love primaforce products myself too, haven't tried the Agmatine .. But I remember the products I used from prima were all legit (havoc and cit malate)

yeah would love to hear some feedback from you since u have tried 3diff companies
 
GQNemesis said:
Each co. Raws are different .. I love primaforce products myself too, haven't tried the Agmatine .. But I remember the products I used from prima were all legit (havoc and cit malate)

yeah would love to hear some feedback from you since u have tried 3diff companies
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Thx.
Yeah primaforce was ok.
AI doesn't seem to have a huge effect either way.
I know 1 thing when I took primaforce @ 750mg or what ever I was taking a mean shít 2 girls 1 cup style...
 
GQNemesis said:
Interesting ?

Who was eating it up ? Lol
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Not sure it was a public restroom.
Guess who ever came with a spoon haha
 
GQNemesis said:
Truly a first cum first service restaurant huh lol
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Got SNS samples of agmatine?
 
AaronJP1 said:
Got SNS samples of agmatine?
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I'm sure one of us can hook you up
 
fightbackhxc said:
I'm sure one of us can hook you up
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Thx Coop
Did
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I have no explanation for why SNS may be better othan than the fact that other brands may be getting duped on the raws. The feedback between users who have used other brands and SNS is pretty confusing; I've seen a TON of such cases on bb.com.
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I can speak for Ai and tell you agmatine has been amazing , pumps, mood, arms being bigger due to more pumped, loving the stuff.

Im dosing 1000 mgs pre workout, I feel it better pre workout than in the morning, in the morning I felt faintly, pre workout is where its out like with some bcaa and your pre workout stuff

for me pre workout consists of

after about two or three whole meals meals if possible

an hour after the last meal
10 bcaa's
4 caps agmatine
4 performs
sometimes daa if I missed it with a meal, generally i like it with a meal

this combination is nice. I dont use stimulates much of the year.
 
GQNemesis said:
^ ignore mine, since mr Cooper is hooking ya up lol

Stupid Dialup connection lol
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Dial up?! Come on bro! That's like using arginine
 
StakedCop said:
There's a site selling hemavol for 18$ dam!
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PM me the deets bro!
 
Dvaldez5 said:
Dial up?! Come on bro! That's like using arginine
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U take that statement back right now before I turn into hulk

I love me some AE .. I cycle it when I'm off agmatine

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Love me some good ol matrix .. Makes my neck veins pops out lol
 
ISU152 said:
Holy ****. Started taking agmatine at 750 mg in the a.m. on monday and I love it!
I've been playing around with the dosage a little so far. Started at 750 in the a.m then tried 750 a.m. and 250 pre workout. I think I'm going to try 500 am/500 pre workout.
The pumps were amazing! Felt like my biceps were going to rip out of my skin! Just wanted to give this supplement some credit and can't wait to see how the next few weeks go!
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did you get your samples? Did you check out our Agmatine?
 
Agmatine is fantastic for pumps and pre contest even. However I just love how it makes me feel after a week or two,just great.
 
Still have yet to feel any effect from agmatine...but before any of you AI or SNS guys get upset, I am using bulk powder from SP.
 
GreenEarth said:
Still have yet to feel any effect from agmatine...but before any of you AI or SNS guys get upset, I am using bulk powder from SP.
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Interesting. I'm using SNS and definetely feel it.
 
On workout days I've been doing 500mg upon waking, and then 500mg about 10-15 minutes before working out.
 
I'm about to get some in, Primaforce. We'll see how it feels.
 
ScienceGuided said:
Agmatine is fantastic for pumps and pre contest even. However I just love how it makes me feel after a week or two,just great.
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Unfortunately you guys have none in stock at NP so you missed my order....
 
T-Bone said:
I took 1500mg a day of this stuff and never saw anything from it besides lower fasting blood glucose levels. No pump or anything like that though.
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Same here. I took 1000mg. Maybe it did something, but I have not noticed anything related to the mood or the pump. I took the SNS brand. Did I get a bad batch or something? Seeing all these positive reports here makes me want to try it again, but I do not know if I should try a different brand or if it even makes sense to spend money on it again.
 
John33 said:
Same here. I took 1000mg. Maybe it did something, but I have not noticed anything related to the mood or the pump. I took the SNS brand. Did I get a bad batch or something? Seeing all these positive reports here makes me want to try it again, but I do not know if I should try a different brand or if it even makes sense to spend money on it again.
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Just like other supplements I am sure there are those whos bodies respond a bit better to certain things. Sorry you didnt feel much man I love it. did you go through the whole bottle?
 
Has anyone felt running agmatine solo with their pre is more beneficial then a pump product like hemavol? Just curious.
 
th3futur3 said:
Has anyone felt running agmatine solo with their pre is more beneficial then a pump product like hemavol? Just curious.
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Not really a relevant comparison. Hemavol is a fantastic preworkout product, whereas I'd argue that the optimal time to take agmatine is not even preworkout but rather with a high carb meal. So you can't really compare the two in that respect.
 
th3futur3 said:
Has anyone felt running agmatine solo with their pre is more beneficial then a pump product like hemavol? Just curious.
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In what aspect?

Stand alone, no Agmatine wouldn't outperform Hemavol but that's because a solid dose of Agmatine+ Cit-Mal+GMS are in the product. So obviously pre-workout Hemavol will out perform stand alone ingredient.

However, I wouldn't be taking a scoop of Hemavol at night to help with GH/LH release cause of the Agmatine and I also wouldn't be taking Hemavol with a pre-workout meal 2 hours prior.

Most reports I see from users is using 250-500mg Agmatine with a pre-workout meal, then using 1 scoop of Hemavol pre, and then I personally like 500mg pre-bed to help promote deeper, more restful sleep and GH/LH release.


So to answer your question, Hemavol contains Agmatine plus other pump agents, but IMO should be dosed at 2 scoops to get the optimal dose of Agmatine. I personally suggest running a bottle of Agmatine along side Hemavol to prolong the tub length and to get the full benefits that Agmatine provides.

Just my thoughts. Have you used Agmatine stand alone before? If you have some on hand, I highly suggest you try some of the dosing schemes I've laid out here. You'll get some great results.


-Day
 
I agree with the last 2 posts. I have been using agmatine for a while now and have dosed it just about every way possible.
 
So far I like Agmatine. I use SNS and I take 500mg preworkout. THe pumps and vasc have been nice. One thing I have noticed is every now and then it seems to give me the squirts. Its to the point now that I can time it..LOL. But I do like the product though..I have not tried Hemavol so I can noty compare..SJ
 
GQNemesis said:
U take that statement back right now before I turn into hulk

I love me some AE .. I cycle it when I'm off agmatine

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Nope! I stand by my statement! Arginine is a sham, a crock, non sense, good I've fashioned tom foolery! Never did anything for me, obviously lol
 
Dvaldez5 said:
Nope! I stand by my statement! Arginine is a sham, a crock, non sense, good I've fashioned tom foolery! Never did anything for me, obviously lol
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Couldn't agree more. GQNemesis is talking about Arginine E2 matrix which contains Ornithine and Norvaline, both of which are quite effective at increasing endurance and pumps.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Couldn't agree more. GQNemesis is talking about Arginine E2 matrix which contains Ornithine and Norvaline, both of which are quite effective at increasing endurance and pumps.
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Ooooooh, well that's a completely different story altogether! Ornithine converts to arginine, whereas arginine can't enter the blood as arginine... I know you're the guru Coop I, was more or less saying that for a confirmation, or a backhanded bish slap...
 
John33 said:
Speaking of Hemavol, have you tried the tablet form? It seems to be stronger than the powder.
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:o

Never tried the powder.
The pills were eh...
 
Thanks coop and daycrawler for the awesome responses. Much appreciation.
 
Hemavol pills gave me the strongest pump I've ever felt; painful almost! Been at least a year, maybe more, since i last used it. Anxious to try the powder form.
 
Didn't know to much from the pills.
 
GreenEarth said:
Still have yet to feel any effect from agmatine...but before any of you AI or SNS guys get upset, I am using bulk powder from SP.
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This isn't the first time I've seen this comment.

I have no intentions of speaking negatively about SP, however you can rest assured you're getting the best with SNS.
 
antihero said:
This isn't the first time I've seen this comment.

I have no intentions of speaking negatively about SP, however you can rest assured you're getting the best with SNS.
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ditto with AI sports. some days when im rested , have a couple meals before I train i take a gram and anm freaking pumped

other days I am personal training and only got a shake in and train at the gym I personal train in, after the pt session and little sleep, and I feel blah. when all other variables (the basics)are in check it works so much better
 
Dvaldez5 said:
Nope! I stand by my statement! Arginine is a sham, a crock, non sense, good I've fashioned tom foolery! Never did anything for me, obviously lol
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for a pump,ok. Arginine,does infact have health benefits along with the other things in arginineE2 that coop said does do well for pumps and endurance.

why its almost a staple for me.

arginine E2 matrix really does help with pumps and endurance. good stuff
 
ScienceGuided said:
for a pump,ok. Arginine,does infact have health benefits along with the other things in arginineE2 that coop said does do well for pumps and endurance.

why its almost a staple for me.

arginine E2 matrix really does help with pumps and endurance. good stuff
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I haven't really had a chance to look into Arginine E2 yet but... From what I gathered after Coops comment is that the main ingredient in Arginine E2 is not in fact arginine. I'm just responding from my phone right now, will look more in depth later but what it seems is that the ingredients convert to arginine... If I'm wrong then no prob but I do stand by my comment IMO arginine itself (not arginine in the body) is not worth taking. Again my opinion based on my research and using it personally.
 
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