agmatine

mike2440 said:
How many grams or mgs of agmatine should i take a day and when are the best times to take the doses?
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Typical doses are usually 500mg-1g.

Usually taken:
1) All first thing in the morning.
2) Split dose in the morning and pre-workout.
3) Only pre-workout.
4) Pre-workout and post workout.
5) Any of the above plus before bed.
6) etc.

It is a very versatile supplement and I suggest you try several different dosing schemes and amounts to find what is optimal for you and depending on what your goals are at this time. I personally use some in the morning after I wake up and some before bed (I also do not use it solely to increase pumps, but taking it in the morning still provides me some pretty incredible pumps even when I workout later in the day).
 
I usually take it pre-workout. 1.5g. I get mine for 12 bucks a pop so i figured what the hell.

I do know there is a arginine nitrate and agmatine product pre-workout in the works. Not NTBM someone else.
 
I take 1gm a day
 
TheDarkHalf said:
I usually take it pre-workout. 1.5g. I get mine for 12 bucks a pop so i figured what the hell.

I do know there is a arginine nitrate and agmatine product pre-workout in the works. Not NTBM someone else.
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as in both products in 1 supp? interesting...haven't tried yok3d yet, although I have a bottle in my stash....but have used cellucor's arg nitrate product before, decent effects...
 
TheDarkHalf said:
I usually take it pre-workout. 1.5g. I get mine for 12 bucks a pop so i figured what the hell.

I do know there is a arginine nitrate and agmatine product pre-workout in the works. Not NTBM someone else.
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There are ingredients that could potentiate agmatine but arginine is not one of them.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
There are ingredients that could potentiate agmatine but arginine is not one of them.
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I wasn't saying that they were in there to potentiate agmatine or arginine nitrate....i just think they would provide pumps through different pathways unless that's completely off base
 
howwedo107 said:
mr cooper what do you think about viagra pre workout for a pump?
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Eh, I wouldn't do it.

monstermash said:
Care to name a few please?
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Unfortunately, you will have to wait and see.

TheDarkHalf said:
I wasn't saying that they were in there to potentiate agmatine or arginine nitrate....i just think they would provide pumps through different pathways unless that's completely off base
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Ah, I missed the nitrate part. In that case, yes they would provide pumps in different ways, and I'd be interested in trying that product. Any ETA?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
makes sense, theoretically
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I have heard of people doing this with good results.

Hmm I have a few 50mg and a few 100 mg viagras wonder if I should try this sometime with the 50 and then with the 100
 
mr.cooper69 said:
You guys missed a big one...with a high carb meal.
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Thanks for the reminder! I was 5 min in to a huge plate of beef and potatoes and forgot to dose my Agmatine!


PS - Mr Cooper knows his shxt on Agmatine... he gave me a fair warning about taking too high of a dose while fasting... the other day i took 1g before leaving the house because I was planning on getting some ****ty food while out running around. Made one stop before hand and ended up at the store for an hour... shortly after about an hour I actually felt extremely close to passing out. Like I was afraid to walk for about 5 minutes holding on to a rail. Then I got to the checkout and some stupid people were talking to the cashier and taking forever... my rage flew through the roof cause I thought I was going to bite the dust and hit the floor... I immediately left and got the first food I saw... Mcdonalds and I was then much better...

Stuff ends up being no joke! Im only taking it on high carb days that for sure!
 
stopstalking said:
I have heard of people doing this with good results.

Hmm I have a few 50mg and a few 100 mg viagras wonder if I should try this sometime with the 50 and then with the 100
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I'm not too big on the idea of doing deadlifts and bending my penis downward to the point of breaking it off because I have a raging boner when I try to lower the weight back to the floor... hahahaha
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Eh, I wouldn't do it.



Unfortunately, you will have to wait and see.



Ah, I missed the nitrate part. In that case, yes they would provide pumps in different ways, and I'd be interested in trying that product. Any ETA?
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You know it's hard to say with an ETA in the supplement industry. The company that's making it does non-proprietary blend products and spends a lot of time testing and tinkering with flavor variations to make sure it comes out just right. I would say 3-5 months? and even then that's just a guess but it's gonna be sweet
 
On a side note, I took 3g of agmatine split into two doses, am and preworkout. Pumps were sick and vasculaity was much more pronounced
 
TheDarkHalf said:
On a side note, I took 3g of agmatine split into two doses, am and preworkout. Pumps were sick and vasculaity was much more pronounced
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I have gone up to 2g a day most in the morning with Na-R-ALA before big carb breakfast and some before bed, but have not gone up to 3g. Probably gonna experiment with some higher dosing soon :cool:

Anyone else have any experience dosing at these higher levels?
 
Agmatine is good stuff
 
kingjameskjf said:
I like using it at 1g about 45 minutes pre workout.
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Just got some sns caps, trying agmatine for the first time. Gonna try 500 mg morning, 500 mg pre......I willl try 1 g pre after that.
 
BPjohn123 said:
Just got some sns caps, trying agmatine for the first time. Gonna try 500 mg morning, 500 mg pre......I willl try 1 g pre after that.
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Yeah it's not so bad.
 
I know I'm pissed I got the hemavol pills and not the powder.
I may try the agmatine caps about 45 pwo @ 1000 mg.

Heard a lot of good stuff about hemavol but I need the powder so hits me better/faster what ever.

U have not been noticing a huge pump like I use to either. Maybe not challenging my self as much anymore... I'll try increasing water first.
 
FlawedGrunt said:
Thanks for the reminder! I was 5 min in to a huge plate of beef and potatoes and forgot to dose my Agmatine!

PS - Mr Cooper knows his shxt on Agmatine... he gave me a fair warning about taking too high of a dose while fasting... the other day i took 1g before leaving the house because I was planning on getting some ****ty food while out running around. Made one stop before hand and ended up at the store for an hour... shortly after about an hour I actually felt extremely close to passing out. Like I was afraid to walk for about 5 minutes holding on to a rail. Then I got to the checkout and some stupid people were talking to the cashier and taking forever... my rage flew through the roof cause I thought I was going to bite the dust and hit the floor... I immediately left and got the first food I saw... Mcdonalds and I was then much better...

Stuff ends up being no joke! Im only taking it on high carb days that for sure!
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When was the last time u ate b4 taking the pills?
I never expierenced anything like that & I don't want to
 
Patrick Arnold said:
makes sense, theoretically
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Sure does, but I still wouldn't try it.

Unless I worked out at home. (and had phenylephrine on hand)
 
BPjohn123 said:
Just got some sns caps, trying agmatine for the first time. Gonna try 500 mg morning, 500 mg pre......I willl try 1 g pre after that.
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Let me know how that goes for you. Personally, my favorite protocol is quickly becoming 500mg with my preworkout meal (high in carbs; ~3 hours preworkout) and 500mg 30 minutes preworkout.
 
BPjohn123 said:
Just got some sns caps, trying agmatine for the first time. Gonna try 500 mg morning, 500 mg pre......I willl try 1 g pre after that.
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Let me know which way works best for you. I think you'll really like the agmatine.

mr.cooper69 said:
Let me know how that goes for you. Personally, my favorite protocol is quickly becoming 500mg with my preworkout meal (high in carbs; ~3 hours preworkout) and 500mg 30 minutes preworkout.
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That sounds interesting. I'm going to have to give that a shot.
 
Seem like most use it pre workout, anyone here use it post? Thoughts?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
It can certainly help postworkout as well due to its effects on insulin production. Agmatine is a multi-dimensional ingredient so you have to pick your poison with regards to dosing.
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Yea I think I'm going to do 500mg in the morning and 500 post workout. I don't really care about the pump effects, I'm looking more for the other benefits.
 
EArch said:
How would 750mg - 1000mg do but on an empty stomach because iv been training fasted recently
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Hmmm now I am also thinking of taking it with my post workout meal where I break the fast and with my final meal before fasting again or pre bed... got a bottle sitting here need to make up my mind
 
mike2440 said:
how should taking 1000mg with breakfast affect that meal and what i should eat with it?
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You won't "feel" the effects but it will act as a GDA. Eat a high carb breakfast...oatmeal with added protein powder or whole grain pancakes with protein powder added to the mix, for example.
 
One thing I have been thinking of...

If you were to take say 500mg with your post workout meal after lifting, would that be bad? because it apparently acts as a GDA but most recommend not to take GDA's with postworkout meal as your natural insulin sensitivity is already at its for lack of a better word 'best'. could taking it here be harmful and promote fat storage? or would it have any effect on insulin sensitivty post workout at all? probaly hard to say.

as this stuff gets more popular, and its blowing up right now, people will be experimenting a lot with doses.

I train fasted at 10 and was thinking of doing 500mg with post workout meal and 500mg with final meal of day to see what happens. each have a lotta carbs.
 
FlawedGrunt said:
Thanks for the reminder! I was 5 min in to a huge plate of beef and potatoes and forgot to dose my Agmatine!


PS - Mr Cooper knows his shxt on Agmatine... he gave me a fair warning about taking too high of a dose while fasting... the other day i took 1g before leaving the house because I was planning on getting some ****ty food while out running around. Made one stop before hand and ended up at the store for an hour... shortly after about an hour I actually felt extremely close to passing out. Like I was afraid to walk for about 5 minutes holding on to a rail. Then I got to the checkout and some stupid people were talking to the cashier and taking forever... my rage flew through the roof cause I thought I was going to bite the dust and hit the floor... I immediately left and got the first food I saw... Mcdonalds and I was then much better...

Stuff ends up being no joke! Im only taking it on high carb days that for sure!
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Saw this and cringed. Man. Sometimes supplements are a scary thing when not taken lightly. I have had some similar experiences. Not with agmatine. But with yohimbine and caffeine. Lost track of reality and had an anxiety attack.
 
th3futur3 said:
Saw this and cringed. Man. Sometimes supplements are a scary thing when not taken lightly. I have had some similar experiences. Not with agmatine. But with yohimbine and caffeine. Lost track of reality and had an anxiety attack.
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Very true!
Stuff is powerful sometimes.
I usually like to take a lot of mine with food, but to be honest I'm more so sticking with the basics.
 
EArch said:
One thing I have been thinking of...

If you were to take say 500mg with your post workout meal after lifting, would that be bad? because it apparently acts as a GDA but most recommend not to take GDA's with postworkout meal as your natural insulin sensitivity is already at its for lack of a better word 'best'. could taking it here be harmful and promote fat storage? or would it have any effect on insulin sensitivty post workout at all? probaly hard to say.

as this stuff gets more popular, and its blowing up right now, people will be experimenting a lot with doses.

I train fasted at 10 and was thinking of doing 500mg with post workout meal and 500mg with final meal of day to see what happens. each have a lotta carbs.
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It would not be harmful to take agmatine, but I agree with you that it is not the best time to take it.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Very true!
Stuff is powerful sometimes.
I usually like to take a lot of mine with food, but to be honest I'm more so sticking with the basics.
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I had an incident about 5 minutes ago with agmatine and my search prompted me here (agmatine, hypoglycemia). I took 1.5 grams before a very large breakfast and I was sweating, my focus was tuning in and out... All I could think of was, "GET CARBS". I made a chocolate, banana shake with leucine and coconut oil and was stuffing gluten-free corn puffs in my mouth while it was blending. :D
 
Is Agmatine really that strong a GDA? If so, soley for these effects surely it is the best and cheapest one around?
 
saggy321 said:
Is Agmatine really that strong a GDA? If so, soley for these effects surely it is the best and cheapest one around?
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I believe so. I've been taking the basics along with creatine, beta alanine, and agmatine powder and I am recomping very quickly without counting cals or keeping strict track of macros. I eat all quality foods though.
 
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