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Is there any health risks for someone 21 years old though? I know it's not the same as steroids, which everyone pretty much tells you don't touch until you're 21 or even older. But is there health risks that would be different to someone taking it in their 30's or 40's.
 
randysavage said:
they say they increase strength. If anyone has taken anything could you please post your experience with it. thanks
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I've taken many different ones. Powerful, hghup, ghenerate, hghpro, igf-2. And a few others. But hands down the best one for sleep and recovery is igf-2. I would say ghenerate is great for strength and pump. And hghup helps me in both departments but not as proficient in either.
 
Tradiational GH boosters are semi-useful to me - those GABA based products. They help with recovery and restful sleep but Ive never noticed much of the "leaning out" from them.

I am putting a biased on this as the only time I tried them as during the time I worked a night shift so my sleep cycle was almost no-existent. So, take my 2 cents for what its worth.
 
nattydisaster said:
Not going to notice anything from them except better sleep, since you cant really "feel" increased HGH levels
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That's not true! You can absolutely feel a strong pulse of GH. Depending on what you are using to release GH you might feel the ACTH and the prolactin release as well.

I can GUARANTEE you will feel the GH release with Cabergolean.
 
flightposite said:
I've taken many different ones. Powerful, hghup, ghenerate, hghpro, igf-2. And a few others. But hands down the best one for sleep and recovery is igf-2. I would say ghenerate is great for strength and pump. And hghup helps me in both departments but not as proficient in either.
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Ive tried bulk GABA, HGHUp, and HGHPro. Those name brand compounds were good, id run em both again anytime but I gotta cycle them too I feel like I become tolerant to their effects. They helped put me to sleep which is nice.

I have IGF-2 waiting for me to get my new training/diet in check... still messin around with a couple things. Oh, do I have a plan for YOU, IGF2.
 
i have no problem sleeping, i make sure i get 8-8.5 hours a night. I was looking for something to help strength, therefore help build muscle kinda like a test booster.

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randysavage said:
i have no problem sleeping, i make sure i get 8-8.5 hours a night. I was looking for something to help strength, therefore help build muscle kinda like a test booster.
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All the ones I mentioned will help with that. And if you want to notice an immediate strength and muscle coordination improvement use hghup pre workout with a stim. ;)
 
OrganicShadow said:
Ive tried bulk GABA, HGHUp, and HGHPro. Those name brand compounds were good, id run em both again anytime but I gotta cycle them too I feel like I become tolerant to their effects. They helped put me to sleep which is nice.

I have IGF-2 waiting for me to get my new training/diet in check... still messin around with a couple things. Oh, do I have a plan for YOU, IGF2.
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I hear you on that I always try to cycle them out. Can't wait to see the igf-2 plan:D
 
Or you can use Cabergolean as a stand-alone- the stimulant effect as a function of the NADH.
 
BigGunn said:
Or you can use Cabergolean as a stand-alone- the stimulant effect as a function of the NADH.
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It's on my to try list. It looks good.
 
flightposite said:
I hear you on that I always try to cycle them out. Can't wait to see the igf-2 plan:D
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My lifts Tuesday Thursday are late evening a few hours before bed so it works out nicely. Saturday Sunday are morning so Im trying to figure out what would be optimal there.
 
natty, how can you say they only offer good sleep? man i really need to get a few logs of IGF 2 on here. body comp is unreal. especially on the older lifters ages 40 and up. strength gains, especially stacked with DAA, are very good as well.
 
R1balla said:
natty, how can you say they only offer good sleep? man i really need to get a few logs of IGF 2 on here. body comp is unreal. especially on the older lifters ages 40 and up. strength gains, especially stacked with DAA, are very good as well.
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For someone over 40, they have multiple benefits. Better sleep, improved joints, etc. Not saying they are useless, I am just talking about what you "feel". Leaning effects from better glucose regulation is possible, but thats possible with some GDAs as well.

And in case my words are not convincing someone should ask Patrick Arnold in the new Patrick Arnold section of this forum. "Will HGH boosters increase strength?"

They have their place, yes, but people seem to thing HGH boosters are equally effective as anabolics or test boosters. They can be staples in the 35+ crowd. Their best use would be to be taken with something anabolic.

HGH "works" through increasing IGF-1 levels. Some of this might sound out of context because I am copy pasting, but:


Patrick Arnold said:
no it does not. that is a myth.

in adult humans, igf-1 takes place in the hypertrophy response but hyperplasia is rarely seen

systemic LR3 probably does little except act as a glucose disposal agent. If any hypertrophy goes on it will be in the organs before the muscle
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Patrick Arnold said:
i dont think the stuff is considered very special. it could be helpful for connective tissue injuries
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Patrick Arnold said:
good for connective tissue too. may help potentiate anabolic steroids effects on muscles
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Patrick Arnold said:
igf-1 can make just about every tissue in the body grow. systemically circulating igf-1 can be sufficient to make gut organs grow however it does little for skeletal muscle. locally produced igf-1 in skeletal muscle is implicated in the hypertrophy process however
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Patrick Arnold said:
A minimal dose of GH to really feel anything is 4 IU a day. 8 IU is better. You will gain weight within a few days. This weight is water. You look bigger but its really just water. But that water helps you get great pumps in the gym so your training is more rewarding. Over the course of a couple of months you should see accelerated fat loss.

when you stop the water goes away and the fun is over
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Patrick Arnold said:
in adults it may increase thickness of certain bones. mostly cranial and extremitites. however for most people this doesnt really happen with typical usage

tendons may become stronger. not sure if they will be noticeably thicker
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Patrick Arnold said:
because maybe you enjoy looking really good for a month? its not an outrageous concept

and you cant lose as much fat from dieting as you can lose from dieting plus GH
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I just saved PA 10 minutes of his future time in his new forum!
 
Those are just general points by the way. Some HGH boosting products are much more than HGH boosters, like products with L-Dopa are also good testosterone boosters.

Mucuna/L-Dopa is my favorite OTC HGH increaser because of its multiple ergogenic effects, like PowerFULL which I think has two ingredients, with one being of the mucuna family
 
AppNut LOVES L-Dopa in their products. i just know when i use them, i see gains in strength and body composition. I think if one takes an HGH booster, for maximum effects, it should be stacked with a test booster.
 
and if somebody was comparing HGH boosters to anabolics, they are crazy. also, you cant be on an HGH booster for only a month. you will see minimal effects. IMO, at LEAST 2 months at the least.
 
I've tried most of them several times. In my experience they don't do much except promote deep restful sleep which is great. I would still purchase them even if that was the only way they were marketed instead of all the usual bogus claims like , improved body composition, skin bursting pumps etc etc. My vote and a staple of mine is Ghenerate. nice and cheap and a bottle lasts two months. Can't go wrong imo.
 
R1balla said:
and if somebody was comparing HGH boosters to anabolics, they are crazy. also, you cant be on an HGH booster for only a month. you will see minimal effects. IMO, at LEAST 2 months at the least.
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I agree with this, save for the sleep benefits you'll reap for a month.
 
I have been taking ageforce hgh patch. The delivery system goes directly into the skin and I noticed longer and deeper sleep from the first time. Due to the better sleep recovery time is enhanced. Cant say enough about the product. Check out ageforce.com
 
Have been taking ageforce hgh patch. It is outstanding. Noticed deeper and longer sleep with first use. The patch is time released and delivers 100% directly thru the skin.
 
nattydisaster said:
Those are just general points by the way. Some HGH boosting products are much more than HGH boosters, like products with L-Dopa are also good testosterone boosters.

Mucuna/L-Dopa is my favorite OTC HGH increaser because of its multiple ergogenic effects, like PowerFULL which I think has two ingredients, with one being of the mucuna family
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add this (Shilajit Extract (50-60% fulvic acid) to your combo and be ready :firedevil:
 
zendog said:
I've tried most of them several times. In my experience they don't do much except promote deep restful sleep which is great. I would still purchase them even if that was the only way they were marketed instead of all the usual bogus claims like , improved body composition, skin bursting pumps etc etc. My vote and a staple of mine is Ghenerate. nice and cheap and a bottle lasts two months. Can't go wrong imo.
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what have you taken before?
 
The two most prominent effects I have noticed from two months on Cabergolean is the very deep sleep......(my nights consistently are those "fall asleep and two seconds later its morning" nights). And an increase in libido. My strength has slowly been on the rise and recovery is better. But that can be a result of much better rest too. Either way, I think its a product worth trying.
 
Yeah, I would use with any Primordial Performance test booster/ Andro-series product. Maybe Phyto-Test or Sustain Alpha if you a natty athlete or Androhard if you are looking for something more along the lines of AAS. I only trust PP for my test boosters, because I KNOW their raws are American made. I am scared to use any other company's test boosters at this time. But if if anyone can recommend another one, and they can guarantee their raws come from a U.S. manufacturer and not China, I would love to check them out.
 
BigGunn said:
Yeah, I would use with any Primordial Performance test booster/ Andro-series product. Maybe Phyto-Test or Sustain Alpha if you a natty athlete or Androhard if you are looking for something more along the lines of AAS. I only trust PP for my test boosters, because I KNOW their raws are American made. I am scared to use any other company's test boosters at this time. But if if anyone can recommend another one, and they can guarantee their raws come from a U.S. manufacturer and not China, I would love to check them out.
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I really enjoyed Endosurge but it contained 3,4 as well so it isn't strictly a GH product.

In terms of other products, I have never noticed anything significant other than sleep. GHenerate from LG may as well have been flavoured water after the first few days.

I haven't tried IGF2 by App Nut. I looked into it ages ago but was put off by the price as there were no UK logs for reassurance.
 
bdcc said:
I haven't tried IGF2 by App Nut. I looked into it ages ago but was put off by the price as there were no UK logs for reassurance.
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Would 40% off help your decision to give it a try any? ;)
 
JudoJosh said:
Would a free bottle help your decision? I can only usually offer 40% off but you are so dreamy I thought I would be extra generous!
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Why yes it would Josh, thank you!
 
JudoJosh said:
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I am sorry, what I meant was a company that sells a PH or a 4-DHEA type product (for example) that either sources their raws domestically or that has a cGMP facility.

App nut is a great company, and I have seen those pics before. Your test booster looks solid, but natty test boosters do not do much for me except make me moody.

So besides PP Androseries are there any other PH type products out there that are DSHEA compliant and that are or work like a PH?

Sorry for my market-ignorance on this matter
 
I think you'll like igf-2. I ran it a couple of times along with drive/rpm/neovar. Man that was a sweet stack.
 
BigGunn. I should have read your post but just skimmed it. The stack I mentioned above is the closest thing i've experienced that compares to Ph/Designer streoids. Do it and you will not be dissappointed. Iam doing a PP Hard/Lean stack right now and the App Nut stack delivered better results hands down.
 
IGF-2 is a GH booster, and apparently a very good one, But I have a lifetime supply of Cabergolean.....lol

I guess I was looking along the lines of a good PH option. Comparable to the PP Androseries, to take with the Cabergolean. But as long as PP can keep the good stuff coming I will stick with their goodies.
 
zendog said:
BigGunn. I should have read your post but just skimmed it. The stack I mentioned above is the closest thing i've experienced that compares to Ph/Designer streoids. Do it and you will not be dissappointed. Iam doing a PP Hard/Lean stack right now and the App Nut stack delivered better results hands down.
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Drive/ rpm/ neovar. I will check them out thanks zendog!
 
BigGunn said:
IGF-2 is a GH booster, and apparently a very good one, But I have a lifetime supply of Cabergolean.....lol

I guess I was looking along the lines of a good PH option. Comparable to the PP Androseries, to take with the Cabergolean. But as long as PP can keep the good stuff coming I will stick with their goodies.
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would u like to log IGF 2?
 
Grumpy said:
Is there any health risks for someone 21 years old though? I know it's not the same as steroids, which everyone pretty much tells you don't touch until you're 21 or even older. But is there health risks that would be different to someone taking it in their 30's or 40's.
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Why would you take a supposed "HGH booster" when your 21?. Doesn't make any sense if you understand what HGH is.
 
BigGunn said:
I am sorry, what I meant was a company that sells a PH or a 4-DHEA type product (for example) that either sources their raws domestically or that has a cGMP facility.

App nut is a great company, and I have seen those pics before. Your test booster looks solid, but natty test boosters do not do much for me except make me moody.

So besides PP Androseries are there any other PH type products out there that are DSHEA compliant and that are or work like a PH?

Sorry for my market-ignorance on this matter
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DSHEA compliance with a PH is a thin line.. I can't think of any company that sells truly legal PHs AND arent sourced from China (other than PP)

I think with the recent law changes all that is left really is DHEA and progestins.. AMS/forerunner labs produce some decent DHEAs but don't know who they source from.

Sadly appnut got out of the PH game a while ago :(
 
Do I wish Applied Nutraceuticals nothing but the best and hope their business remains successful! Yes. God bless them and everyone associated with them! Do I want to log a competitors product which might divert sales from my company and put money in their pockets? Not at this time : )

It took us 6 months to come up with the formula and have the Cabergolean manufactured. A lot of thought and effort went into this product.
If people are not interested in Cabergolean, then I officially give my recommendation to Applied Nutraceuticals IGF-2 as an excellent GH booster.





R1balla said:
would u like to log IGF 2?
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I certainly understand what HGH is, but I have no idea what you mean by, "Doesn't make any sense if you understand what HGH is."

I would say that if you have an efficient endocrine system at any age, then a GH or Test booster might not be necessary. But I also know for certain from a clinical application that a GH booster used effectively will augment the efficacy of an efficient endocrine system. In studies where 500mg of L-dopa was given to individuals to measure GH release, those with the most efficient endocrine systems achieved the greatest results.

What HGH boosters have you used T-Bone? I can tell you that if you have hypothyroidism, various metabolic diseases, or hypothalamic hypopituitarism then a GH booster may not work well for you. If you have used HGH consistently and at a high enough dose (varies) then a GH booster may not work well for you.

But to blanketly say ALL GH boosters are "garbage" is just an uneducated opinion.

Look at the data behind App Nut's HGHup. It is scientifically clear that their product increases plasma GH levels upwards of 1500+% for a few hours. That's not garbage. I can tell you in the tests we have done on our end, we have seen similar results.

In your defense, maybe you have just used garbage GH boosters in the past? But times have changed, and there are a few revolutionary HGH boosters on the market today.


T-Bone said:
Why would you take a supposed "HGH booster" when your 21?. Doesn't make any sense if you understand what HGH is.
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BigGunn said:
I certainly understand what HGH is, but I have no idea what you mean by, "Doesn't make any sense if you understand what HGH is."

I would say that if you have an efficient endocrine system at any age, then a GH or Test booster might not be necessary. But I also know for certain from a clinical application that a GH booster used effectively will augment the efficacy of an efficient endocrine system. In studies where 500mg of L-dopa was given to individuals to measure GH release, those with the most efficient endocrine systems achieved the greatest results.

What HGH boosters have you used T-Bone? I can tell you that if you have hypothyroidism, various metabolic diseases, or hypothalamic hypopituitarism then a GH booster may not work well for you. If you have used HGH consistently and at a high enough dose (varies) then a GH booster may not work well for you.

But to blanketly say ALL GH boosters are "garbage" is just an uneducated opinion.

Look at the data behind App Nut's HGHup. It is scientifically clear that their product increases plasma GH levels upwards of 1500+% for a few hours. That's not garbage. I can tell you in the tests we have done on our end, we have seen similar results.

In your defense, maybe you have just used garbage GH boosters in the past? But times have changed, and there are a few revolutionary HGH boosters on the market today.
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Just ordered some Cabergolean. I will take it after taking my HGHpro cycle after my Trans dermal DHEA cycle. I hope. Sending my order to Hawaii if nothing changes and then after that it will take a while to get to me as I just had my mom send me a box from home with a few goodies.

Thanks for the discount code. I basically bought it because I love Macuna and this is probably the cheapest its ever going to be.
 
Never used one.
Does something like AI HGH pro cause to fall asleep or just help with sleep quality.

Could use some help with quality, but not looking for something to make me fall asleep.
 
it doesnt help fall asleep, at least not for me. it helps with better quality of sleep. i love GH boosters. i see many positive effects.
 
BigGunn said:
I certainly understand what HGH is, but I have no idea what you mean by, "Doesn't make any sense if you understand what HGH is."

I would say that if you have an efficient endocrine system at any age, then a GH or Test booster might not be necessary. But I also know for certain from a clinical application that a GH booster used effectively will augment the efficacy of an efficient endocrine system. In studies where 500mg of L-dopa was given to individuals to measure GH release, those with the most efficient endocrine systems achieved the greatest results.

What HGH boosters have you used T-Bone? I can tell you that if you have hypothyroidism, various metabolic diseases, or hypothalamic hypopituitarism then a GH booster may not work well for you. If you have used HGH consistently and at a high enough dose (varies) then a GH booster may not work well for you.

But to blanketly say ALL GH boosters are "garbage" is just an uneducated opinion.

Look at the data behind App Nut's HGHup. It is scientifically clear that their product increases plasma GH levels upwards of 1500+% for a few hours. That's not garbage. I can tell you in the tests we have done on our end, we have seen similar results.

In your defense, maybe you have just used garbage GH boosters in the past? But times have changed, and there are a few revolutionary HGH boosters on the market today.
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i agree
 
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