Best Preworkout

I like to play wit ingredients and make my own. This is what I'm on right now.

Pre-workout meal: Two scoops of whey, 1 cup of oats and 1 banana

Supplements:
2 Slin-Sane pills
5 grams creatine monohydrate
5 grams citrulline malate
10 grams BCAA
3 grams Leucine
5 grams glycerol monostearate

I mix the powders in 32 oz of fruit punch crystal light
 
Iron Warrior said:
I like to play wit ingredients and make my own. This is what I'm on right now.

Pre-workout meal: Two scoops of whey, 1 cup of oats and 1 banana

Supplements:
2 Slin-Sane pills
5 grams creatine monohydrate
5 grams citrulline malate
10 grams BCAA
3 grams Leucine
5 grams glycerol monostearate

I mix the powders in 32 oz of fruit punch crystal light
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I like :D
 
If anyone enjoys a pre-workout stack more than HemaVol(either pills or powder) + Maximize v2, I would be absolutely floored. That stack is on another level.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Also, agmatine boosts LH/GH levels, which obviously assist in growth, not to mention the significant increase in muscle insulin sensitivity, making it a very nice nutrient parititioner as well.

Arginine E2 contains Norvaline. Personally, I would rather stack agmatine with Focus XT. It's potent enough as is, and does not need an extra pump ingredient to potentiate its effects.
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Okay, so if I understand correctly, Arginine E2 is more of a "look" supplement, it mainly makes your existing muscles look fuller, but not much else. Agmatine, on the other hand, is like Arginine E2 plus the benefits of higher LH/GH levels, right? Would you say that Agmatine gives the same "pump" as Arginine E2?

Also, I wanted to order Focus XT, but I started reading some reviews, and people seem to be saying that it tastes bad and makes your teeth blue and stained. Is that true? I hate that overly sweet, chemical taste. Which flavor would you recommend that is the least offensive?

Thanks!
 
50Carbs said:
Okay, so if I understand correctly, Arginine E2 is more of a "look" supplement, it mainly makes your existing muscles look fuller, but not much else. Agmatine, on the other hand, is like Arginine E2 plus the benefits of higher LH/GH levels, right? Would you say that Agmatine gives the same "pump" as Arginine E2?

Also, I wanted to order Focus XT, but I started reading some reviews, and people seem to be saying that it tastes bad and makes your teeth blue and stained. Is that true? I hate that overly sweet, chemical taste. Which flavor would you recommend that is the least offensive?

Thanks!
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I wouldnt spend money on Arginine as it doesnt really do anything. If you are looking for norvaline there are other options to choose from. Agmatine is a great product tho
 
Powercage said:
I wouldnt spend money on Arginine as it doesnt really do anything. Agmatine is a great product tho
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Not sure I understnad. Agmatine by SNS is an arginine product. No? Anyway, have you taken it? What was the effect?

If you are looking for norvaline there are other options to choose from.
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I am all ears. What do you have in mind?

I am always looking for a great product that would help me gain a little more muscle mass. I have never taken arginine, agmatine or norvaline products, so I do not know what they do or do not do. Wait, that is not entirely true, I have tried N.O. Explode; completely useless, as far as I could tell.
 
50Carbs said:
Not sure I understnad. Agmatine by SNS is an arginine product. No? Anyway, have you taken it? What was the effect?


I am all ears. What do you have in mind?

I am always looking for a great product that would help me gain a little more muscle mass. I have never taken arginine, agmatine or norvaline products, so I do not know what they do or do not do. Wait, that is not entirely true, I have tried N.O. Explode; completely useless, as far as I could tell.
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Agmatine is an agmatine product (good for pumps and endurance). The reason I dont recommend arginine is because it doesnt actually do anything for NO.

Other products with norvaline would be: Slin-sane (I'd take on a cut), Purple PsyKO (I'd take on a bulk), or bulk products such as NOW L-Norvaline

Gaining muscle mass is going to be more dependent on your diet
 
50Carbs said:
Not sure I understnad. Agmatine by SNS is an arginine product. No? Anyway, have you taken it? What was the effect?
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Agmatine is a kind of derivative (decarboxilated) version of arginine. They are are quite different as a result and arginine has proven to be much more effective. The pumps/vasodialation/hypertrophy I get when working out with agmatine are insane.
 
Powercage said:
Agmatine is an agmatine product (good for pumps and endurance). The reason I dont recommend arginine is because it doesnt actually do anything.

Other products with norvaline would be: Slin-sane (I'd take on a cut), Purple PsyKO (I'd take on a bulk), or bulk products such as NOW L-Norvaline.
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Would you stack agmatine with vorvaline or would you take them separately? Also, is one "better" (or more effective) than the other?
 
50Carbs said:
Would you stack agmatine with vorvaline or would you take them separately? Also, is one "better" (or more effective) than the other?
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They stack just fine. Agmatine alone will give you a rather big pump tho. If I had to choose just one I would go with agmatine
 
Off topic, but I do not want to start a new thread just to ask this one question: D-Aspartic Acid by NutraPlanet, it is in a powder form and it does not say on the label that it contains anything else, so I am assuming it is unflavored, but the question is: How does it taste? Is it nasty, tasteless or something in between?
 
50Carbs said:
Off topic, but I do not want to start a new thread just to ask this one question: D-Aspartic Acid by NutraPlanet, it is in a powder form and it does not say on the label that it contains anything else, so I am assuming it is unflavored, but the question is: How does it taste? Is it nasty, tasteless or something in between?
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It's a powder...can't recall about the label, but it IS only DAA...taste? I don't think nasty at all...has a sour taste that I actually like...can take either staight up...but usually mix in with my preWO for a 'sour patch kid' effect on whatever flavor my pre is at the moment..
 
50Carbs said:
Off topic, but I do not want to start a new thread just to ask this one question: D-Aspartic Acid by NutraPlanet, it is in a powder form and it does not say on the label that it contains anything else, so I am assuming it is unflavored, but the question is: How does it taste? Is it nasty, tasteless or something in between?
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The taste can take some getting used to. I would just shotgun the powder to get it down and then drink something else to make sure the taste was out of my mouth. I've since gone with caps for convenience.
 
What do you guys think about Anabolic Ignite? It contains 2.3 grams of nitrates. I am concerned about potentially negative side effects. I have heard that nitrates are bad for health. Is it true? I know many vegetables contain nitrates, but I am assuming that those nitrates are natural and come with other nutrients found in vegetables.

Is there any other product out there that contains creatine, L-Citrulline, Beta Alanine, and Citrulline Malate, but without nitrates?
 
For clean energy and a great pump why not combine 2 products? ON's Amino Energy is simply amino acids and green tea extract (EGCG) along with coffee caffeine extract. That is as clean as it gets for energy, which is actually pretty strong. For the pump I'd give USP Labs' Yoked a shot. Its essentially Jack3d without the stimulant. There is also Xero Limits' Eponox and good ole' MHP NO Bomb to look at too for pump. NO Preworkouts are great, but if you are looking for clean energy to give your receptors a break from stimulant overload, I'd look into combining for a month or so.

Rick.
 
50Carbs said:
What do you guys think about Anabolic Ignite? It contains 2.3 grams of nitrates. I am concerned about potentially negative side effects. I have heard that nitrates are bad for health. Is it true? I know many vegetables contain nitrates, but I am assuming that those nitrates are natural and come with other nutrients found in vegetables.

Is there any other product out there that contains creatine, L-Citrulline, Beta Alanine, and Citrulline Malate, but without nitrates?
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Stack MAN Body Octane with MAN Clout.
 
iForce MaximizeV2 Rasp Lem flavor+Lemon Drop Hemavol!!!! PM one of the iForce reps, they are having a KILLER SALE right now on this stack!!!! Blows Meso outta the water!!!!!
 
50Carbs said:
What do you guys think about Anabolic Ignite? It contains 2.3 grams of nitrates. I am concerned about potentially negative side effects. I have heard that nitrates are bad for health. Is it true? I know many vegetables contain nitrates, but I am assuming that those nitrates are natural and come with other nutrients found in vegetables.

Is there any other product out there that contains creatine, L-Citrulline, Beta Alanine, and Citrulline Malate, but without nitrates?
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Look into SAN Fierce. It has creatine nitrrate, properly dosed, and a lot of other goodies. A single 16.4gr serving has ~14gr active ingredients. It's potent!
 
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