StaCkedCop's training journal - A Iron Addict's Log -

StakedCop said:
What's a high dose though? dr d ran it for 6 month but I don't think he ever went over 3.12 grams and went as low as 1 gram a day. I don't feel sh!t from Daa till 6 grams....
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It worked pretty good at 4g for me. I'm much smaller than you though. I was looking forward to running 6g. All the studies have been at 3g. so there is really no way of knowing what's too much, that I am aware of.

Dr. D has been busy and not visiting here. Otherwise I'd ask him.
 
Alright, this logs got good info, comedy, pics of hot chicks and ARs, and some damn good motivational material thanks to the beastly OP.....

I'm probably real late.....but this little guy is in!
 
Hawk said:
Alright, this logs got good info, comedy, pics of hot chicks and ARs, and some damn good motivational material thanks to the beastly OP.....

I'm probably real late.....but this little guy is in!
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That's mother ****ing right!

Welcome

Btw if you post a pic of yourself in here you will most likely be sexually Harassed... No homo of course
 
bluehealer said:
It worked pretty good at 4g for me. I'm much smaller than you though. I was looking forward to running 6g. All the studies have been at 3g. so there is really no way of knowing what's too much, that I am aware of.

Dr. D has been busy and not visiting here. Otherwise I'd ask him.
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He's a busy dude.. I wonder if dr d is dr drew from love line lol
 
Okay so I looked over the article very quickly but this is what I am taking away from it so far..

The toxicity is coming from N-Methyl-D-Aspartate..

N-Methyl-D-Aspartate has a pretty great potential to overstimulate the NMDA receptor but it isn't exactly toxic because it is currently present within your body already. The problem seems to be when you have TOO much.. but how much is too much? I dunno :dunno:

What the problem is seems to be the influx of calcium ions that are allowed into the cells which produce enzymes that may damage the cells

Now how is this revelant to DAA?

Well first DAA breaks down n-Methyl-D-Aspartate via NMDA Synthetase. Also to note the test boost isnt directly a result from DAA but from the n-Methyl-D-Aspartate. So in order for DAA to be effective it needs to convert to the n-Methyl-D-Aspartate which is what is considered to be dangerous in high amounts

I think the key words here are high amounts.. The questions I would like to ask supplement companies would be

First are there any amounts of n-Methyl-D-Aspartate mixed in with your DAA?
How much n-Methyl-D-Aspartate can be expected to be produced after taking "X" amount of DAA?

I would like to see some studies that would show..
How much was the calcium influx after taxing "X" amount of DAA?
How much calcium influx can occur safely without damaging the cells?


So the take away is DAA converts to n-Methyl-D-Aspartate which in turn stimulates the test production but too much n-Methyl-D-Aspartate can be toxic.

Again key word I think is too much because honestly too much of ANYTHING can be toxic. I dont think the focus should be on the fact that DAA is toxic it should be to establish some kind of threshold for it, a level that may be safe. But again EVERYTHING has the potential to be toxic to the body

This is what I got from it so far but since I have DAA I think ima hold off and do some more research on the subject and see what turns up. I will post up whatever I find as I find it and let me say this is just MY thoughts based off what I read. I am not a scientist and can be totally wrong and someone more versed in the field can probably answer and explain waaaay more better than me. I would email companies and ask for them to provide the studies they are baseing their products performance off of and then go though them studies for yourself.
 
There are also lots of logs being done right now on all sorts of products with DAA, u can check those out and ask the guys how they've felt too.
 
Mrodz said:
There are also lots of logs being done right now on all sorts of products with DAA, u can check those out and ask the guys how they've felt too.
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Not to knock your response but I doubt they could "feel" the possible negative side effect.

No one is doubting the positive effect from it because NMDA DOES boost test production, the question is the health risk





That reminds me trauma is now a rep for Athletix and they are about to release a new DAA product so I am sure he can chime in and break it all down way better then me and from my experience (and prolly most of everyone elses too) trauma has always been a good stand up guy so I would like to hear his input on it. I will prolly wait to see if he does a product write up on adamantium and see what he says about DAA
 
Judo, good response!

Do me a favor and post that here so more people can be aware of this. Invalid Link Removed

I doubt any rep will bad mouth DAA... I never felt anything negative and I also had bloods done that showed all good. These negative sides won't show up on a blood test and you won't "feel" them.
 
StakedCop said:
Judo, good response!

Do me a favor and post that here so more people can be aware of this. Invalid Link Removed

I doubt any rep will bad mouth DAA... I never felt anything negative and I also had bloods done that showed all good. These negative sides won't show up on a blood test and you won't "feel" them.
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I dont really feel I am a voice of authority and there are some people who will quickly try and challenge and pick apart something I say for the sake of arguing and I really dont like to be involved in a debate unless I know sufficently enough information to base my opinion and back that opinion up. That is just what I came up with.. dont know if it is correct or not even and I dont really have a strong opinion on pro or anti DAA so definetely wont be able to debate it with someone.

The questions I would like to see answered would be:

What is the ratio of NMDA to DAA that will be produced. Like if I ingest 3g worth of DAA orally how much NMDA could I expect to be converted from that DAA?

What is the minimum amount of NMDA needed to stimulate the hypothalamus-pituitary and testis to produce hormones?

What is the maximum amount of NMDA that can be present safely?

What is the influx of calcium after x amount of DAA orally?

And if exercise would effect that calcium ion influx?

Until I see or figure out those answers I may be a little hesitant with DAA also now.

Thanks for bringing this all up guys by the way :thumbsup:
 
StakedCop said:
Judo, good response!

Do me a favor and post that here so more people can be aware of this.

I doubt any rep will bad mouth DAA... I never felt anything negative and I also had bloods done that showed all good. These negative sides won't show up on a blood test and you won't "feel" them.
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:)

I think it's a good idea to ask them about the alleged anxiety, depression and night sweats. Its what I would do and would be a signal that something may be wrong.
And to read up of course, I think its very responsible to be wary.


(stoopid 50 post limit ggrrrrrrrr)
 
Thanks JJ, I'll also will hold off on taking it until more info surfaces.

Hey smallfry, AX has a couple of products with DAA in it, see if you can find out anything from them. I'm banned there so I can't do it, lol.
And let's bump up that rep power a bit.
 
On a side note I finally made it to the gym... 6 mile drive took 55mins WTF **** u Illinois

Lol no lights in my personal car :p
 
So how this for a coincidence..

there is a site I check daily it is sort of like a Woot but for supplements, anyway each day they have a new featured product for cheap.. Well guess what today's product was...... DAA.
 
JudoJosh said:
So how this for a coincidence..

there is a site I check daily it is sort of like a Woot but for supplements, anyway each day they have a new featured product for cheap.. Well guess what today's product was...... DAA.
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I hope it turns out to be a safe supplement. It's dirt cheap and although I don't get any BB'ing gains from it I love the libido boost and alpha male feeling...
 
Training UPDATE Chest day all dumbbells

Flat Dumb bell bench
100-12
110-10
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120-8
125-8
125-6 fail on 7th thru that **** and screamed "gang member!!" At the time i was the only white dude in the gym :lol: I thought it was funny....
115-8
110-8

Incline DB
100-10
105-8
110-5
95-8 drop 80-4

Incline db fly
80-10
80-8
70-11

Cable flys
12,12,20,15,12,12

20 min cardio (internals) sprints 8.5-10mph till heart rate hit 167.

I also did 40 mins fasted cardio this morning. Incline walk kept the heart rate at around 135

Yesterday was a all cardio day did 1 hour of treadmill walking with a few sets of sprints.

I have gained some body fat back the last few days... Might be water retention from all the canned chicken. I need to invest in a scale because I have no ****ing clue what I weight lol

I'm aiming for another fasted morning cardio session but I'm super horny and ain't going to sleep till I get laid so I might not get the morning session in.... :D

Fyi You guys are sexy bitches
 
Come on now, cut me some slack, I'm almost 46 years old and only been working out for 4 years. I can do 70lb. DB's on incline for 10, lol. I'll get there one day. Strength increase is SLOW when you get old.
 
bluehealer said:
Come on now, cut me some slack, I'm almost 46 years old and only been working out for 4 years. I can do 70lb. DB's on incline for 10, lol. I'll get there one day. Strength increase is SLOW when you get old.
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I meant that in a good way :)

Dumbbells helped me increase my over all chest strength and mass.

46 is the new 23 :p you ever get a hormone panel and see if you can get on trt? Is it something you would be interested in?
 
bluehealer said:
Come on now, cut me some slack, I'm almost 46 years old and only been working out for 4 years. I can do 70lb. DB's on incline for 10, lol. I'll get there one day. Strength increase is SLOW when you get old.
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Test Cyp man. Once a week and you'll feel 20 again. A lot of older guys go this route.

Do some research, you'll be pushing the 130s on DB bench in no time.....well some time, but you get my point
 
morry said:
Test Cyp man. Once a week and you'll feel 20 again. A lot of older guys go this route.

Do some research, you'll be pushing the 130s on DB bench in no time.....well some time, but you get my point
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Haha! What do they say about great minds??

Check out my post above yours
 
StakedCop said:
Haha! What do they say about great minds??

Check out my post above yours
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:lol:

:nana:

:toofunny:

great minds do think alike....
 
StakedCop said:
I meant that in a good way :)

Dumbbells helped me increase my over all chest strength and mass.

46 is the new 23 :p you ever get a hormone panel and see if you can get on trt? Is it something you would be interested in?
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I've been meaning to do that but never can find the time to get to the doctor. The high price of oil has us crazy busy at the moment. Oil Field Trash, broman.

morry said:
Test Cyp man. Once a week and you'll feel 20 again. A lot of older guys go this route.

Do some research, you'll be pushing the 130s on DB bench in no time.....well some time, but you get my point
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Haven't given that much thought at all. Just wasting a crapload of money on the new and ineffective test boosters.:rant2:
 
bluehealer said:
You get your mileage problem solve yet? If not, leave it alone you're making me more money.:nana:
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Lol you work for a oil company? What's your address... I have a present for you :p

I filled up at sam's club 3.60 a gallon fml lol I'm glad I bought a Nissan...
 
hahaha you sell gas? F#CK you and your prices!!! :)

no i just realized i was driving too fast to get any kind of a normal gas mileage. Drove like 60-65 for an entire 12 gal tank and got 400 miles. 33 mpg cant really complain. now if only the gas stations could stop drilling me in the a$$ for more money every time I go, that would be great.
 
AntonG42O said:
hahaha you sell gas? F#CK you and your prices!!! :)

no i just realized i was driving too fast to get any kind of a normal gas mileage. Drove like 60-65 for an entire 12 gal tank and got 400 miles. 33 mpg cant really complain. now if only the gas stations could stop drilling me in the a$$ for more money every time I go, that would be great.
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Sam's club gas! It's like .20 cents cheaper then everywhere
 
StakedCop said:
Lol you work for a oil company? What's your address... I have a present for you :p

I filled up at sam's club 3.60 a gallon fml lol I'm glad I bought a Nissan...
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Yep, I design production equipment. CAD. Please forward all of my packages to Libya.

I have a gas guzzling 4 x 4 hemi. Cost me $71 dollars to fill up yesterday. No worries though, company pays for my gas. I only use Chevron.
 
AntonG42O said:
hahaha you sell gas? F#CK you and your prices!!! :)

no i just realized i was driving too fast to get any kind of a normal gas mileage. Drove like 60-65 for an entire 12 gal tank and got 400 miles. 33 mpg cant really complain. now if only the gas stations could stop drilling me in the a$$ for more money every time I go, that would be great.
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lmao :lew:
 
bluehealer said:
Yep, I design production equipment. CAD. Please forward all of my packages to Libya.

I have a gas guzzling 4 x 4 hemi. Cost me $71 dollars to fill up yesterday. No worries though, company pays for my gas.
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We tried getting take home squads in our contract but we took a 15,000 pay raise with retro instead. I don't want a marked squad in my driveway anyway lol

Fish oil ftw!
 
StakedCop said:
We tried getting take home squads in our contract but we took a 15,000 pay raise with retro instead. I don't want a marked squad in my driveway anyway lol

Fish oil ftw!
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ahhh i hate driving down a street and seeing one of those parked next to a house. i always think there is someone A) creeping for speeders B) jerking off
 
StakedCop said:
We tried getting take home squads in our contract but we took a 15,000 pay raise with retro instead. I don't want a marked squad in my driveway anyway lol

Fish oil ftw!
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Makes the neighbors feel safe though. They know your house will be the target and not theirs, lol.

Good choice on the raise/car option.
 
AntonG42O said:
ahhh i hate driving down a street and seeing one of those parked next to a house. i always think there is someone A) creeping for speeders B) jerking off
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Haha neither. They are either A) Facebook on Iphone B)Posting their training session on AM with an Iphone or C) texting away with their friends on their Iphone.:wink1:
 
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