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The NEW Anabolic Trinity from IBE/PHF

i've never gained 15lbs of sd in two weeks.

i have made a 5lb gain in a week off of both superdrol and boladrol.

I'm not thinking im going to be able to put on more than another 5lbs though and at the point im at now, I dont think i'd be able to do more than 10lbs off of sd either.
not without adding in something like test with either one.

but, for choco's question way back, ment does have a very short half life. but because this is a ph, and will undergo conversion first in the liver, it may increase it possibly.

Also, I have read from pa the conversion of the trenadione should be significant.

but all in all, it's too early to tell still. though, when I think of ment, I think of male contraception. no boners on that stuff, thats for sure. lmao.
 
Ive never had night sweats when pinning Tren Ace or had troulbe sleeping but I did get huge strength increases.

On the tren ph's that hve been banned, they did NOTHING for me except make my BP so high my physichian wanted to monitor me with a machine for a wk.srs

Im excited to see how this compares to the real deal!!!!
 
beta testing is 2-3 wks which means prodyct is about what 2-2.5 months out?
 
hungryH said:
of course they are.
Its a sponsored log.

I very much doubt theyr telling the truth
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not trying to get into an argument but, are you saying that people on this forum do not give reliable info if the log is sponsered?
 
I would guess something along those lines. It seems stupid though to lie about stuff like that. People want results, not inflated numbers on a message forum.
 
boladrol aka bolasterone is right up there with superdrol dude
 
james122 said:
not trying to get into an argument but, are you saying that people on this forum do not give reliable info if the log is sponsered?
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That is what he is getting at, but honestly I think the argument is annoying. This may be the case if a company was sending product to someone with 2-3 posts, but no established member is going to BS a log or review, potentially hurting their reputation for some free product. We have some big names running Boladrol, i would take their word.
 
HereToStudy said:
That is what he is getting at, but honestly I think the argument is annoying. This may be the case if a company was sending product to someone with 2-3 posts, but no established member is going to BS a log or review, potentially hurting their reputation for some free product. We have some big names running Boladrol, i would take their word.
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Also no Beta or Alpha test products were ever paid for by the tester,to my knowledge, no matter who sponsored it. So with the sponsored logs are unreliable mentality ALL supps were and are still bunk. Just sayin.
 
chocolatemilk said:
HTS is right...

So is anyone from IBE/PHF going to answer my questions or what?
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You are asking questions about products that havent been beta tested yet, you being a rep should know that half life and effective dose can only be speculation at this point. Unless theres a study on the half life then nobody may know for sure what it is.
 
mmowry said:
You are asking questions about products that havent been beta tested yet, you being a rep should know that half life and effective dose can only be speculation at this point. Unless theres a study on the half life then nobody may know for sure what it is.
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Ok was just looking for some ideas from you guys. Obviously some thought goes into the compounds, just wanted to know the half life situation with MENT and what you guys thought of that and/or if you were even aware of that.

Also just a general conversion idea. What you guys thought it would be around when embarking on the production.

Everyone was wondering that question I had to ask :D
 
chocolatemilk said:
Ok was just looking for some ideas from you guys. Obviously some thought goes into the compounds, just wanted to know the half life situation with MENT and what you guys thought of that and/or if you were even aware of that.

Also just a general conversion idea. What you guys thought it would be around when embarking on the production.

Everyone was wondering that question I had to ask :D
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Point well taken, its theorized that all will have a very high conversion rate so I hope that helps. :lol:

BTW I have the same questions just no concrete answers. :D
 
Thats tallent, I cant even write my name in the snow!!! :(
 
If I can just address the logs/testers situation for a minute, I want to refer you guys to the protomax logs ibe sponsored, we had some very good people run protomax and give their feedback, I stressed the importance of real honest feedback so that we all could get an idea of what to expect from protomax, and I believe thats what we got. I made it absolutely clear that I wanted everyone to be brutally honest, for myself, as a consumer first, and as a rep second, and I stressed over and over that I wanted to hear it all, including the good, the bad and the ugly, and I think the loggers did a great job giving us some very good accounts of their experiences.

Of course, as unfortunate as it is, you always have to take everything these days with a grain of salt, and hope that any testers will report honest feedback, but I really find it hard to believe that someone with any kind of presence would whore themselves out and tarnish their reputation for one free bottle of product. And having said that, I think the people logging boladrol right now are doing a service for us all, in as much as giving the rest of us a glimpse of what we can expect from a boladrol run ourselves.

I personally, am very much looking forward to getting some feedback on the next two products on the horizon, and cant wait to see some logs going on Mentabolan and Trenavar.

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So you have people testing a compound and you dont even know the half life???
WTF lol..

Here guy, take my pro hormone, I just made it!
You will get hyuuuugggeee!!
 
JCunningham said:
So you have people testing a compound and you dont even know the half life???
WTF lol..

Here guy, take my pro hormone, I just made it!
You will get hyuuuugggeee!!
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Are you always an antagonist or do you just save it for this community?

What is the half life of M1T or SD or MOHN or any other DS and show me the proof.
 
David Dunn said:
Are you always an antagonist or do you just save it for this community?

What is the half life of M1T or SD or MOHN or any other DS and show me the proof.
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The metabolism of dromostanolone (2á-methyl-5á - androstan-17â-ol-3-one) was studied in three adult volunteers after oral dose of 20 mg. Solvent extracts of urine obtained after enzyme hydrolysis were derivatized with MSTFA/TMCS and MSTFA/TMIS. The structures of intact drug and its metabolites were determined by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS) in electron impact (EI) mode. The major metabolite (2á-methyl-5á- androstan-3á-ol-17-one), its 3â -epimer, parent compound, and several hydroxylated metabolites including intact drug were detected by comparing total ion chromatograms of control urine with that of the administered sample. Two epimers of 2á -methyl-5á- androstan-3,17â-diol were detected using selected ion monitoring. The maximum excretion of dromostanolone and 2á-methyl-5á- androstan-3á-ol-17-one was reached in 6.2-15 hr. The half-life of intact dromostanolone was 5.3 hr. About 3.0% of the administered amount was found to be excreted within 95 hr as unchanged form.



Base your own conclusions about what the half life would be on a 17 alpha methyl version of this molecule(aka-superdrol). probably greater than 5.3 hours.
 
JCunningham said:
The metabolism of dromostanolone (2á-methyl-5á - androstan-17â-ol-3-one) was studied in three adult volunteers after oral dose of 20 mg. Solvent extracts of urine obtained after enzyme hydrolysis were derivatized with MSTFA/TMCS and MSTFA/TMIS. The structures of intact drug and its metabolites were determined by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry (GC/MS) in electron impact (EI) mode. The major metabolite (2á-methyl-5á- androstan-3á-ol-17-one), its 3â -epimer, parent compound, and several hydroxylated metabolites including intact drug were detected by comparing total ion chromatograms of control urine with that of the administered sample. Two epimers of 2á -methyl-5á- androstan-3,17â-diol were detected using selected ion monitoring. The maximum excretion of dromostanolone and 2á-methyl-5á- androstan-3á-ol-17-one was reached in 6.2-15 hr. The half-life of intact dromostanolone was 5.3 hr. About 3.0% of the administered amount was found to be excreted within 95 hr as unchanged form.



Base your own conclusions about what the half life would be on a 17 alpha methyl version of this molecule(aka-superdrol). probably greater than 5.3 hours.
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And when did this study take place? alpha, beta, presale?

Oh, wait that data is not Superdrol as we know it, is it? Is there anything on SD, M1T, or any other OTC DS that was or is currently on the market that was released to the consumer at alpha, beta or presale?
 
And that post I made is a general post.
I felt that IBE doesn't know much about their own PH or if they do, do not wish to disclose info..
 
David Dunn said:
And when did this study take place? alpha, beta, presale?

Oh, wait that is not Superdrol as we know it, is it. Is there anything on SD, M1T, or any other OTC DS that was is is currently on the market that was released to the consumer at alpha, beta or presale?
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Oct/Nov 2005
 
so dunn- are you saying that the half life of m14add could be- 24 hours ?!

or even 30 minutes?!


GOOD GOD MAN!




























AHhh im still buying trenavar-period
 
cant we all just agree that we that IBE realeasinh these is better than nothing being released at all?

idk about you but bringing trenavar to market is pretty awesome IMO and as for MENT we''l just have to wait and see
 
GQ hows things my friend? Sorry to hear that youre getting off of the natural band wagon. :D
 
mmowry said:
GQ hows things my friend? Sorry to hear that youre getting off of the natural band wagon. :D
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whats up bud .. yea i know, now im gonna be like every other member here ..roided out lolz ..but hey ..... :gives:

i picked up some boladrol on that presale .. looking forward to this .. something to stack with protomax finally :)
 
HereToStudy said:
That is what he is getting at, but honestly I think the argument is annoying. This may be the case if a company was sending product to someone with 2-3 posts, but no established member is going to BS a log or review, potentially hurting their reputation for some free product. We have some big names running Boladrol, i would take their word.
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okay sorry, you're right.

It really is obvious that although boladrol has much less sides than superdrol, it is much stronger.
 
eta on trenavar? Will it be out buy febuary of '11????!!!!??!@?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

!! ? !!!!
 
Theyre 2-3 wks out from BETA testing was the last word Id received. We'll let everyone know when its test time !! :D
 
bro im ur man

im getting rdy to run this

week1-24 test e
week 1-5 dbol
week 9-15 TRENAVAR
week 20-26 anavar


i know u cant pick anyone yet as you havent even gotten it LOL but i would love to do a log for you all


:) ;)


WILL PERFORM SEXUAL FAVORS FOR TRENAVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
schwellington said:
bro im ur man

im getting rdy to run this

week1-24 test e
week 1-5 dbol
week 9-15 TRENAVAR
week 20-26 anavar


i know u cant pick anyone yet as you havent even gotten it LOL but i would love to do a log for you all


:) ;)


WILL PERFORM SEXUAL FAVORS FOR TRENAVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You are officially the biggest slut I know schwell...:lol::hump:
 
"You must spread some more reputation before giving it to funkd0c again"



hey man aint no shame in my game
 
bump
and for the record i think funk is a bigger slut
 
silence............









disturbing it is
 
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