M-LMG/H-Drol/Ghenerate/I-GH1...

BigFatPanda said:
9/23/10

Day 30 of H-drol
Day 15 of M-LMG

Man time is flying by… I don’t want to end this cycle. My weight is still at 161, but that is awesome considering my diet. I’m waiting for my job to start on Oct 2nd…Once that paycheck comes in. Diet will be on full steam.

Workout

Deadlift
Barx12
95x1x5
135x1x5
160x1x5
185x1x5
210x1x7 (I could’ve done 10 more, but I was using the stupid bent bar in the gym.)

That’s ok though. I have next week to redeem myself. =D

SLDL (switched bar to normal bar hehehe)
175x5x10

I can’t wait to put 185 on that bar again.

Inverted Row
3x12

External Rotator work
5x2x15

At this point, I crawled home to take my Cycle Assist. ****ing BP man. I forgot to take it yesterday… Blegh.

I’ll go back tomorrow and do some rowing and tricep work…oh and definitely lats.

Also, I found two exercises to do for my shoulders. Let’s see if they help the pain. I give it 4 weeks before I’ll know.
In other news, I failed my road test yesterday. I took 6 lessons in August. I hated my instructor. So, I started practicing on my friend’s Honda Civic. It resembled the Toyota corolla that I learned on. However, for the past month I was practicing on my father-in-laws BMW X5. I learned to drive really well. Highways, freeways, regular streets, whatever… the only problem is… I FORGOT TO PRACTICE PARKING!! Here in NYC parallel parking is necessity. So, I’m in the car with the examiner and he’s like ok parking behind that car. So, I pull over and park… He’s like “no no… I should’ve been clearer… parallel park.” At this point, with the help of h-drol and m-lmg, I began to sweat a bucket. I made 4 attempts. None of them worked. I hit the curb on my 4th attempt. Game over. The reassuring thing is most people I know failed it at least once. I’m retaking it in 3 weeks. In the meantime, I will learn to parallel park an elephant.
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Keep at it my friend!! Best thing to do for this is to make sure your vehicle is small. . .with that being said. . hmmm stats and getting license. .. i smell something your not telling us. . .with that being said. . .how goes the combo? how is the libido? it has to be through the roof
 
Aaelael said:
Keep at it my friend!! Best thing to do for this is to make sure your vehicle is small. . .with that being said. . hmmm stats and getting license. .. i smell something your not telling us. . .with that being said. . .how goes the combo? how is the libido? it has to be through the roof
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Yeah the car was small. Ill be using a friends buick next time though, but the space they give is large. Libido is interesting...i started 150 mg of mlmg and the libido is stable. Ill be honest, i feel like gains would be better if my diet went back to normal. I hope i dont lose any subscribers. I promise to come out at 165+ at 9% bf by the end of cycle. Just wait! Once i can afford normal food there is no stopping me.
 
BigFatPanda said:
9/23/10

Day 30 of H-drol
Day 15 of M-LMG

Man time is flying by… I don’t want to end this cycle. My weight is still at 161, but that is awesome considering my diet. I’m waiting for my job to start on Oct 2nd…Once that paycheck comes in. Diet will be on full steam.

Workout

Deadlift
Barx12
95x1x5
135x1x5
160x1x5
185x1x5
210x1x7 (I could’ve done 10 more, but I was using the stupid bent bar in the gym.)

That’s ok though. I have next week to redeem myself. =D

SLDL (switched bar to normal bar hehehe)
175x5x10

I can’t wait to put 185 on that bar again.

Inverted Row
3x12

External Rotator work
5x2x15

At this point, I crawled home to take my Cycle Assist. ****ing BP man. I forgot to take it yesterday… Blegh.

I’ll go back tomorrow and do some rowing and tricep work…oh and definitely lats.

Also, I found two exercises to do for my shoulders. Let’s see if they help the pain. I give it 4 weeks before I’ll know.
In other news, I failed my road test yesterday. I took 6 lessons in August. I hated my instructor. So, I started practicing on my friend’s Honda Civic. It resembled the Toyota corolla that I learned on. However, for the past month I was practicing on my father-in-laws BMW X5. I learned to drive really well. Highways, freeways, regular streets, whatever… the only problem is… I FORGOT TO PRACTICE PARKING!! Here in NYC parallel parking is necessity. So, I’m in the car with the examiner and he’s like ok parking behind that car. So, I pull over and park… He’s like “no no… I should’ve been clearer… parallel park.” At this point, with the help of h-drol and m-lmg, I began to sweat a bucket. I made 4 attempts. None of them worked. I hit the curb on my 4th attempt. Game over. The reassuring thing is most people I know failed it at least once. I’m retaking it in 3 weeks. In the meantime, I will learn to parallel park an elephant.
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How on earth did you make it to 24 years old in the US without learning to drive?! You must have some kick-ass friends or a trusty bus pass. I guess NYC is kinda ridiculous to have a car in though... still coming from so-cal, I had my license on my 16th birthday.
 
GMG760 said:
How on earth did you make it to 24 years old in the US without learning to drive?! You must have some kick-ass friends or a trusty bus pass. I guess NYC is kinda ridiculous to have a car in though... still coming from so-cal, I had my license on my 16th birthday.
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Well, you dont actually need a car here. The reason im getting a license is because im moving to florida... to fort lauderdale. There you need a car.
 
Right on, hope the move goes smooth. Why not just get your license in FL?
 
GMG760 said:
How on earth did you make it to 24 years old in the US without learning to drive?! You must have some kick-ass friends or a trusty bus pass. I guess NYC is kinda ridiculous to have a car in though... still coming from so-cal, I had my license on my 16th birthday.
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****. I had a car before I turned 16. My neighbors drive to their freaking mailboxes
 
BigFatPanda said:
I want a firebird transam
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I was going to ask you if you were kidding, but then I realized I didn't know what vintage you were talking about. Does makes me wonder if you still rock Bon Jovi though... definitely a Ft. Lauderdale appropriate vehicle.
 
GMG760 said:
I was going to ask you if you were kidding, but then I realized I didn't know what vintage you were talking about. Does makes me wonder if you still rock Bon Jovi though... definitely a Ft. Lauderdale appropriate vehicle.
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Actually, I would like at least a 1998 model with the LS1 V8 Engine. I was never a fan of Bon Jovi though haha.
 
If you want an LS1 you should buy a GTO. Better looking, probably faster.
 
steroids and t-tops. perfect.

i almost had a 2002 firehawk as my first car. my mom looked at the rear window and said too much glass.

what were your lifts before this cycle?
 
2k1s said:
steroids and t-tops. perfect.

i almost had a 2002 firehawk as my first car. my mom looked at the rear window and said too much glass.

what were your lifts before this cycle?
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haha. hey fast cars and steroids are just a coincidence...probably... maybe... =D

Wow. 2002 firehawk.

All right. I'll try to round up all my lifts...I'll only list those that I am still working on...

Bench Press
8/23/10 145x4

Deadlift
8/25/10 205x4

T-Bar Row
8/31/10 90x1x8

SLDL
8/25/10 115x5x10

Chin-Ups
8/12/10 10x3

Triceps Pushdown
50x3x8

I wish I could've been more consistent. To be honest, I went into this cycle with some minor aches from last fall's deadlift onslaught. In any case, so far I've made progress in all of those lifts. I'm more geared towards rotator cuff work and bringing up my deadlift slowly. Oh and getting my hip flexors back in action. I'm using the m-lmg and h-drol to strengthen my imbalances basically.
 
A couple of custom designers are taking the new camaro and creating Trans Am replicas...


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9/24/10

Day 31 of H-Drol…
Day 16 of M-LMG

Workout

Foam rolled t-spine and glutes…Erector Spinae stretch…

Half Kneeling Pulldowns
36x1x20

Just some lightweight warm-up.

Inverted Row
BWx2x20

Btw, I do the inverted row at like a 45 degree angle. So, it’s not that impressive lol.

T-Bar Row
92.5x1x8
92.5x1x8
95x1x8

Decline Sit-ups
BWx4x6

 
Shoulder Work

Shoulder Circles followed by IR and ER stretches…

External Rotators
8x2x8 These were tough, I wish there was a DB inbetween 8 and 5 in the gym.
 
Nice life mang! keep it up. . after this takin a break from ph's? for quite some time get that str up!! muhaha!!! :fing02:
 
Aaelael said:
Nice life mang! keep it up. . after this takin a break from ph's? for quite some time get that str up!! muhaha!!! :fing02:
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Actually, in January I'm running a special cycle. =D

DieselBolan - 30/30/30/30/0/0/0
EpiStrong - 0/0/0/30/45/45/45
Tren - 90/90/120/120/120/120/120

Shhhh... don't tell anyone. :cool:
 
9/26/10

Just a quick update. I'm starting the 6th week of my first cycle on Wednesday. In the meantime, I've made gains in size and strength that I am very pleased with. I should mention that for the past week and for the next week or two I'll be broke enough to not indulge in the proper diet necessary for maximum growth. What I can attribute to the AAS is my body's ability to hang on to the mass that I have while somehow dropping fat. It almost seems like I'm cutting/recomping. In any case, without the AAS I would have shriveled up by now.

So, on Wednesday, I will have 3 weeks left of my cycle. The second I can afford it. I'll go to Costco and put down some money for some serious foodage.
 
2k1s said:
you're running it 9 weeks? damn
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No no...8 weeks... 6,7,8... three weeks left. wednesday is day one of week 6. I can count...I think...sometimes... dont judge me. :smashfreakB:


Hey... you ever had those weeks where you just dont have enough dough for your bulk food?
 
BigFatPanda said:
No no...8 weeks... 6,7,8... three weeks left. wednesday is day one of week 6. I can count...I think...sometimes... dont judge me. :smashfreakB:


Hey... you ever had those weeks where you just dont have enough dough for your bulk food?
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Im to lazy to look right now but whats the dosage of M LMG and have you noticed and progestin problems or water retention annddd when did it kick in for you? Thanks brother.
 
3clipseGT said:
Im to lazy to look right now but whats the dosage of M LMG and have you noticed and progestin problems or water retention annddd when did it kick in for you? Thanks brother.
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I started at 100mg. I did that for 2 weeks. Now I'm at 150mg. I haven't noticed any side effects at all. Actually, once in a while I will retain more water than normal, but I feel like that depends more on how many carbs I eat.
 
BigFatPanda said:
I started at 100mg. I did that for 2 weeks. Now I'm at 150mg. I haven't noticed any side effects at all. Actually, once in a while I will retain more water than normal, but I feel like that depends more on how many carbs I eat.
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Man you dont mess with the small ish eh, strait for the big boy doses lol.
 
3clipseGT said:
Man you dont mess with the small ish eh, strait for the big boy doses lol.
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Yup =D

I expected to have a high tolerance for this stuff because of my experience with foreign substances years ago. It seems I was correct. I should say though that the H-Drol was giving me BP issues during the past week. To be fair, it's my fault. In an effort to not buy another cycle assist, I haven't been consistent with it.
 
BigFatPanda said:
Actually, in January I'm running a special cycle. =D

DieselBolan - 30/30/30/30/0/0/0
EpiStrong - 0/0/0/30/45/45/45
Tren - 90/90/120/120/120/120/120

Shhhh... don't tell anyone. :cool:
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:eek5:you're jokin right?:thinking:
 
There will be times during that cycle in which you will be running two, three, and even four steroids at one time :eek:
 
GMG760 said:
How on earth did you make it to 24 years old in the US without learning to drive?! You must have some kick-ass friends or a trusty bus pass. I guess NYC is kinda ridiculous to have a car in though... still coming from so-cal, I had my license on my 16th birthday.
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I know people in their 40s in NYC who never got a license. A parking spot can run you $700-$1200 a month easily in the right areas. crazy
 
BigFatPanda said:
Actually, I would like at least a 1998 model with the LS1 V8 Engine. I was never a fan of Bon Jovi though haha.
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you may want to look for a Firehawk instead

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it was the firebird formula done over by SLP. Was the fastest dealer available firebird built. I remember taking one for a test drive with a manual transmission, the salesman almost **** himself during the test drive. Whats funny is that when I was looking at Audis, and took a TT and S4 for test drives, it was an older woman salesperson and she said she enjoyed the test drive because generally nobody shopping for an Audi reaches for the edge of its performance envelope during a test drive. Then again, I didn't send the S4 sideways like the Firehawk.
 
You should see some significant improvement in recovery at that max lmg dose. Thats the reason its my favorite compound, i'm an old bastard and I really notice the change in recovery.
 
EasyEJL said:
you may want to look for a Firehawk instead

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it was the firebird formula done over by SLP. Was the fastest dealer available firebird built. I remember taking one for a test drive with a manual transmission, the salesman almost **** himself during the test drive. Whats funny is that when I was looking at Audis, and took a TT and S4 for test drives, it was an older woman salesperson and she said she enjoyed the test drive because generally nobody shopping for an Audi reaches for the edge of its performance envelope during a test drive. Then again, I didn't send the S4 sideways like the Firehawk.
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Haha, that is awesome. I would love to afford a TT. I figured the firehawk would be more expensive. I might be wrong. Hmm...

EasyEJL said:
I know people in their 40s in NYC who never got a license. A parking spot can run you $700-$1200 a month easily in the right areas. crazy
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This is very true. It's crazy how people just accept it as the norm.

EasyEJL said:
You should see some significant improvement in recovery at that max lmg dose. Thats the reason its my favorite compound, i'm an old bastard and I really notice the change in recovery.
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Actually, that seems like the only thing I've really noticed about it so far. The recovery is shocking almost.
 
BigFatPanda said:
Haha, that is awesome. I would love to afford a TT. I figured the firehawk would be more expensive. I might be wrong. Hmm...
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Either that, or if you are mechanically inclined at all, find a plain firebird with a pile of miles on it, but a good body/interior cheap, and buy a crate lt1 engine + install it :) plus you'll have to redo suspension too odds are. You can get a crate complete ZZ4 engine with 350hp for $5k :) thats intake, carb, everything.
 
EasyEJL said:
Either that, or if you are mechanically inclined at all, find a plain firebird with a pile of miles on it, but a good body/interior cheap, and buy a crate lt1 engine + install it :) plus you'll have to redo suspension too odds are. You can get a crate complete ZZ4 engine with 350hp for $5k :) thats intake, carb, everything.
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Well, I'm not mechanically inclined....yet... but I'm sure if I devoted the time and effort I can manage it. I was thinking that originally, but I heard from ls1tech forum that you can only do that to certain years of the firebird. I can't remember offhand what years it is.
 
BigFatPanda said:
It's really not as bad as you think.
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If you want an honest opinion, which I assume you probably don't, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway is: Don't run more than 2 hormones a cycle. I know it sounds like a great plan, but you're gonna pay for it.

I hope you have some cialis and another liver.

Pretty short time off too between cycles. I have been guilty of all of the above... and while I'm still alive, I could have been nicer to my body. I've also had to quit a cycle because I tried to go too big with the doses and hormones. at 161. Get bloodwork done. Don't cycle anything till you have normal values again.
 
GMG760 said:
If you want an honest opinion, which I assume you probably don't, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway is: Don't run more than 2 hormones a cycle. I know it sounds like a great plan, but you're gonna pay for it.

I hope you have some cialis and another liver.

Pretty short time off too between cycles. I have been guilty of all of the above... and while I'm still alive, I could have been nicer to my body. I've also had to quit a cycle because I tried to go too big with the doses and hormones. at 161. Get bloodwork done. Don't cycle anything till you have normal values again.
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I'll definitely get bloodwork done. There's also no reason why I wouldn't want an honest opinion.
 
Dude this is your first cycke and I see it is going well, you next cycle is pretty extreme for a second cycle. Why not try some of those compounds solo and see how you respond ? Or just go with beasrtdrol I'm sure you will have just as much gains and less sides.

Ps. I will always have love for a grrat american v-8, but now that I have a built subaru I will never go back, not until I can afford a 69 roadrunner with a 440 6 pack
 
stopstalking said:
Dude this is your first cycke and I see it is going well, you next cycle is pretty extreme for a second cycle. Why not try some of those compounds solo and see how you respond ? Or just go with beasrtdrol I'm sure you will have just as much gains and less sides.

Ps. I will always have love for a grrat american v-8, but now that I have a built subaru I will never go back, not until I can afford a 69 roadrunner with a 440 6 pack
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As far as the cycle, I may take a longer break. I'm going to see a sports medicine doc in two weeks. I have a lot of things that need taking care of. I'll take care of everything and expect it to take 3-6 months. At that point, I'll either run my mentioned cycle or straight Oral Turinabol. I got what seems to be a legit source.

On a lighter note, 69 roadrunner is nice! That would definitely be an awesome car with that engine.
 
BigFatPanda said:
It's going well actually. The strange thing is. I'm not experiencing any side effects. I'm starting to wonder whether the m-lmg is working or not.
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Is your libido high? If it is then it's probably working. Either that or if you are retaining water, but the GHenerate/Hdrol combo could really be helping you keep that water/bloat down.
 
Week 6 - Day 1 of H-drol...
M-LMG - Day 21...

Workout
Foam Roll - T-Spine, Glutes, IT Band, Adductors, T-spine extensions...
Rollovers into V-sits...
Fire Hydrant circles...
Mountain Climbers...
Groiners...
Hip flexor stretch...

My legs felt pretty good after this...

Deadlift
Barx8
95x5
135x5
175x3
200x3
225x3

Instead of my usual 5 sets of SLDLs... I went for a glute attack...

Glute Bridges
bwx2x10

Bird Dogs - Lying Abductor Raise - Clams (Superset)
2x10

Plate Drags (Abductors)
10lbx2x10

Planks
2x30secs
1x55secs
 
GMG760 said:
Is your libido high? If it is then it's probably working. Either that or if you are retaining water, but the GHenerate/Hdrol combo could really be helping you keep that water/bloat down.
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That must be it. I heard that h-drol alone doesn't help the bloat as much, but I can see how the ghen would do that. Plus I was taking i-gh-1 too... I ran out last night. =(
 
What are you looking to get out of this cycle? If it is mass, we gotta get you a new workout bud. What does your split look like? This last workout was... abs, hamstrings and glutes? Are you doing a push/pull/upper/lower split? I'm a little confused.

And just to light a fire under your ass... I mean, I understand we all lift different amounts of weight, but your workout is what a lot of us would call our warm up. Is 225 your max effort at 3 reps? Typically when on the sauce I'd suggest to go all out on the workouts... not hurt yourself, but this looks like an easily complete-able workout without the steroids... push yourself to lift more while on. I know you got 225x10. I'm pretty sure you have 275x5. For some reason I think I read you are recovering from an injury, but using steroids to recover from an injury might get you hurt worse, and honestly if you were going to use steroids to recover, non-aromatizing dry steroids like Hdrol are not the way to go. I know this is all too little/too late to change anything you are doing at the moment, I am just speaking for purely academic purposes.
 
GMG760 said:
What are you looking to get out of this cycle? If it is mass, we gotta get you a new workout bud. What does your split look like? This last workout was... abs, hamstrings and glutes? Are you doing a push/pull/upper/lower split? I'm a little confused.

And just to light a fire under your ass... I mean, I understand we all lift different amounts of weight, but your workout is what a lot of us would call our warm up. Is 225 your max effort at 3 reps? Typically when on the sauce I'd suggest to go all out on the workouts... not hurt yourself, but this looks like an easily complete-able workout without the steroids... push yourself to lift more while on. I know you got 225x10. I'm pretty sure you have 275x5. For some reason I think I read you are recovering from an injury, but using steroids to recover from an injury might get you hurt worse, and honestly if you were going to use steroids to recover, non-aromatizing dry steroids like Hdrol are not the way to go. I know this is all too little/too late to change anything you are doing at the moment, I am just speaking for purely academic purposes.
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Hahaha... I know what you're talking about.

First, I started this cycle for mass and strength. I did not expect my diet to suffer, but for personal reasons it is suffering just for 2 weeks. That's a big deal, I know, but I have no other choice.

Second, I can most likely pull 275x10 at this point. However, at some point during this cycle, I realized some things about my body and my lifting. (Also, I got health insurance, which I never thought I would get)

The point is, I had two conflicting concepts in my head colliding. On the one hand, I wanted to take advantage of the cycle and lift heavy and get big. I'm sure I could be doing 225x5x10 for SLDL instead of 175. On the other hand, I want to engage in corrective exercise and fix some of my issues. It's the typical "I don't want to stop lifting" thoughts colliding with "i gotta fix this now" thoughts. I was thinking of stopping the cycle all together, but I already bought everything. I cant do much with a used bottle of h-drol and m-lmg. I figured let me just use this to keep myself from wasting away. I'll go into PCT. Do the sports medicine doc. Get all fixed up and start over the right way. I've been going to a commercial gym with no guidance. So, while lifting, I've made some mistakes.

I'm a little more aware of how I should've been lifting, but at this point I think its too late. I'm not sure though. I'll see what the Doc says.

That's my story. LOL.
 
Just a few points to make here for you to ponder....

lift heavy and get big
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- you can get bigger with moderate weights than heavy weights

overdoing heavy weights while dealing with an injury can turn a minor/moderate problem into a long term/permanent one

No matter what people say about safety of orals, they are an unknown. Nothing in your stack was used on humans more than 6 or 8 years ago... So what long term effects are are totally unknown. Wasting a cycle is potentially throwing away some amount of time off your lifespan for nothing....

The flipside of that is, doing a cycle of testosterone is pretty safe, and well term established safety records, particularly if you get real human grade gear. So if you are going to do it again after you have dealt with the problems, ponder an injectible testosterone only cycle.
 
EasyEJL said:
Just a few points to make here for you to ponder....

- you can get bigger with moderate weights than heavy weights

overdoing heavy weights while dealing with an injury can turn a minor/moderate problem into a long term/permanent one

No matter what people say about safety of orals, they are an unknown. Nothing in your stack was used on humans more than 6 or 8 years ago... So what long term effects are are totally unknown. Wasting a cycle is potentially throwing away some amount of time off your lifespan for nothing....

The flipside of that is, doing a cycle of testosterone is pretty safe, and well term established safety records, particularly if you get real human grade gear. So if you are going to do it again after you have dealt with the problems, ponder an injectible testosterone only cycle.
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I definitely agree. Hence, my workouts look like theyre slowing down. I just want to keep gyming it. I should mention that originally this was a jim wendler 5/3/1 workout. Im more interested in a strength-powerlifting approach. Just not a 1rm...but 3-5rm.

Also, im not sure how legit my source is for test...i know the oral turinabol is legit... at least i think it is...lol

In any case, i hear what youre saying.
 
Well, looking at it, you'll have a bunch of time to find a source, as you likely won't be cycling again for at least 3-4 months :)
 
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