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Superdrol Research

chocolatemilk said:
I would do some form of test or use no base at all... So Dermacrine takes my vote. But there is many other compounds that can be used as a test base not just Derma.

Test for sure for me.
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Dermacrine as CM said would definately be a good choice as a base, but if ur lookin to lower estro and Prog, androhard would be the one to go with IMO.
 
3clipseGT said:
Dermacrine as CM said would definately be a good choice as a base, but if ur lookin to lower estro and Prog, androhard would be the one to go with IMO.
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From my tango with Superdrol, if I took anything to lower my estro while using it... my joints would just die.

I actually wanted higher estrogen levels on cycle to help with my joints. Estrogen already gets pretty low on Superdrol I don't see the need to lower it even more.The Prog I'm not too familiar with in regards to Superdrol but I'm sure androhard would help with that.

It's a trade off in my eyes. I ran Superdrol before so I can make a better decision as to what base to use... for myself of course.

For me, I NEEDED some estro to help out my dry, brittle, cracking joints LOL. How you react to Superdrol will probably best determine the kind of base you want to add. But yea, test for me from my experience with the stuff.
 
chocolatemilk said:
I would do some form of test or use no base at all... So Dermacrine takes my vote. But there is many other compounds that can be used as a test base not just Derma.
Test for sure for me.
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No, there aren't. The only test base is..........test. Derma is not test. It's DHEA. End of discussion.
 
jason79 said:
No, there aren't. The only test base is..........test. Derma is not test. It's DHEA. End of discussion.
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well with the news that just came out this thread will be useless very very soon in terms of the pp stuff
 
jason79 said:
No, there aren't. The only test base is..........test. Derma is not test. It's DHEA. End of discussion.
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agreed bro. ive used derm solo in the past. now im on trt and i can tell you that derm does not equate to the 150-250mg/week of test that people say it does. dont get me wrong i like derm but its not test
 
i have used the formastane on a mdrol/m14e cycle and i will say rubbed on my chest(and nipples) that it killed all and any tingles/twinges
 
jason79 said:
No, there aren't. The only test base is..........test. Derma is not test. It's DHEA. End of discussion.
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End of discussion? DHEA converts into testosterone and other hormones. It can be used a substitute for a test base, while you are right, it is not a test base.

I said some "form" of a test base. Most people use Derma solely for the testosterone response it gives... If you want to be technical, yes, test is the only test base. You could use other "forms" though as some of us aren't willing to inject, or can't get a hold of test. Obviously these forms won't work as well as the real base.

Good eye. But I think everyone knows what I meant.

You could also use 4-AD if you can get your hands on it.

...now that I think about it, Derma would be even better to add. It would give you some estrogen to battle those dry aching joints, and some testosterone for the sake of testosterone to deal with other things.

Because SD will drive your estrogen down pretty low. No need to get it lower or it could potentially cause trouble.
 
chocolatemilk said:
End of discussion? DHEA converts into testosterone and other hormones. It can be used a substitute for a test base, while you are right, it is not a test base.

I said some "form" of a test base. Most people use Derma solely for the testosterone response it gives... If you want to be technical, yes, test is the only test base. You could use other "forms" though as some of us aren't willing to inject, or can't get a hold of test. Obviously these forms won't work as well as the real base.

Good eye. But I think everyone knows what I meant.

You could also use 4-AD if you can get your hands on it.

...now that I think about it, Derma would be even better to add. It would give you some estrogen to battle those dry aching joints, and some testosterone for the sake of testosterone to deal with other things.

Because SD will drive your estrogen down pretty low. No need to get it lower or it could potentially cause trouble.
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the man. the legend. chocomilk.
 
cant inject? want test? 1,000mg of 4-androstenediol e/d stacked with superdrol will blow you up. it'll also most likely bring gyno too though. better have your anti e's on hand.

conversion rates dont count for shiit, but if all went accordingly, this would equate to about 750mg of straight test each week. more so if you could get it transdermally.

but thats just a guestimation after patrick arnold stated his 15% conversion rates were only meant for invitro applications, and dont really mean squat.
 
chocolatemilk said:
End of discussion? DHEA converts into testosterone and other hormones. It can be used a substitute for a test base, while you are right, it is not a test base.

I said some "form" of a test base. Most people use Derma solely for the testosterone response it gives... If you want to be technical, yes, test is the only test base. You could use other "forms" though as some of us aren't willing to inject, or can't get a hold of test. Obviously these forms won't work as well as the real base.

Good eye. But I think everyone knows what I meant.

You could also use 4-AD if you can get your hands on it.

...now that I think about it, Derma would be even better to add. It would give you some estrogen to battle those dry aching joints, and some testosterone for the sake of testosterone to deal with other things.

Because SD will drive your estrogen down pretty low. No need to get it lower or it could potentially cause trouble.
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The thing is DHEA doesn't convert to test very efficiently. In fact a dose of DHEA won't yield alot of test at all. It might help with estrogen though as you stated since the parent compound can be directly aromatized. It might help with achey joints and other issues arising from lowered estrogen.

Yes 4AD was very nice back in the day but now it's illegal and not worth the risk involved in breaking the law. I agree with you that it was nice stuff regardless of what the conversion actually was. I think the parent compound probably had some activity without conversion. I've read in academic reviews that the while the 3-hydroxy has less androgenic activity relative to the 3 keto, it probably does retain some. The biggest stumbling block with the old school PHs like 4AD was the lousy oral availability.
 
if you can spend time google searching, you can find 4-androstenediol. it isn't easy though.

(no I will not link, or tell where to look, no one told me)
 
jbryand101b said:
if you can spend time google searching, you can find 4-androstenediol. it isn't easy though.

(no I will not link, or tell where to look, no one told me)
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That's OK, I wasn't asking bro. I'm sure I could find it if I wanted to, but I'm not really interested. Like I said, IMO, it isn't worth it.
 
About to start a 3 day pulse of sd on top of my halo cycle, I was looking into androhard but heard great things about hcgenerate, i dont know which way to go.
 
NattyT said:
About to start a 3 day pulse of sd on top of my halo cycle, I was looking into androhard but heard great things about hcgenerate, i dont know which way to go.
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They are both completely different products. What are your goals?

zombiemuscle said:
Oh sh*t! PP is discontinuing their prohormone products. Looks like I'll be buying 4 bottles androhard lv for 40% off.
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Sounds like a good plan :D
 
OK, I'll ask again, at the risk of getting flamed (but, I like a little BBQ from time to time..., lolz)

Regarding prev posts here and the OP questions. What about adding both AndroH and Derma to a cycle? If they are both beneficial for slightly diff reasons and most say it's a toss up between them, why not both for the best experience poss?

Also, is there a bit diff between Derma and 4-AD as far as using as a test base to combat lethargy and libido stuff? Just conversion rates???
 
gamer2be08 said:
I agree^^^

Forma-stanzol is more than just formastane, it is like sustain alpha and forma combined with a dsmo carrier..

Forma is not suppressive at even 300mg per day.. That though is highly overrated!
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I went with Forma Stanzol and am very pleased. This stuff is great for the libido. I need to order a couple more bottles for my stash.
 
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