Kristofer68SS
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exactly.
I would like to see someone experiment with this as a PCT protocol for a PH cycle. Would it suffice? I.e. is the SERM effective enough for this? I might try it and see...
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I would like to see someone experiment with this as a PCT protocol for a PH cycle. Would it suffice? I.e. is the SERM effective enough for this? I might try it and see...
//CC
If they would be so kind as to send a bottle out.. I'd use it as pct for an upcoming M1T 3wk cycle, but results wouldn't be blood test based as I have another 6wks before my health ins goes into effect :ntome:
what makes TRIAZOLE better than ERASE?
There has been no information released on erase at this time, so the question seems a little premature. We have already released information and supporting bloodwork for Triazole proving it to be an excellent product, doing exactly what we say it will.
Link to the pre-sale where it is available for only $29.99: Invalid Link Removed
i placed an order for you guys anyway..just wondering if you knew anything about erase..
Now that are some impressive results!! Would be awesome to see results from someone who is completely shut down from a PH cycle and used this for PCT :thumbsup:
I think those results would also be quite impressive..
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Now that are some impressive results!! Would be awesome to see results from someone who is completely shut down from a PH cycle and used this for PCT :thumbsup:
I think those results would also be quite impressive..
//CC
Geez, are these numbers the "real deal Holyfield"??? I have been out of commission with my training but I've had a lot to do deal with the last couple of months. But I am back and ready to roll. When I'm not training at least a good 3-5 days a week, I practically don't use anything; usually just whey and multis. I do this because over the last couple of months, I've started to see that my body can actually develop and grow pretty well without using a lot of supps.
What has really surprised me was the fact that I was doing very well using ONLY and ONLY Purple Wraath and MST's Cordygen5 and CU-VO2. Actually not that I think about it, well is an understatement. I honestly now believe your diet is without a doubt the #1 playing factor. I wish I would've logged some of this progress because I really now want to show some of you guys how easy it is and insane the results are by eating the simplest foods. Give me just a little more time and once I have everything settled, I will make sure to start logging.
But with all that said, are those numbers for real??? Since running Activate Xtreme, I knew DS was a solid company. Although I have nothing against LX, I stopped using running it because 1) like I said, I've really noticed that my body actually develops very well when I'm not stacking a whole bunch of supps.
And 2) I know I may get flamed here but I don't consider LX non-hormonal, and that goes for almost any cortisol supp out there. I still remember the first time I ran LX. It was literally the best recomp I've ever experienced, ever. No fat-reducing supp worked the way LX did and then I understood why as I became more interested in how things work. But obviously this isn't the time and place for it.
So now you guys are probably all thinking, "WTF is this dude doing in here then?", right? Well it's simple, I have longed for an all natural AI to come into play. For a couple of years now I have been yearning to run an AI, but I just feel like I would keep "downgrading" myself if I picked up a steroidal one. I mean I hear so many great things about them but just can't go that route. Again, don't take it the wrong way to those who do use them, but I feel like there is a line for me and I can get the look I want by not crossing that line.
With all this said, if these numbers are true then that's F'N solid. Has anyone here ever took blood tests before and after a PH/DS cycle, at least recently?
I would love to see a chart from someone's PH/DS cycle and then a chart from someone's (preferably the same person) non-hormonal cycle (ActX or MassFX or DTHC, etc.) and then compare.
I have faith in DS and their products, even if I don't use all of them. But since I've been out of the game for a couple months I really don't know any of the new products that actually have good credit; my last order was in February. I now try incorporate only the things that work within my system. Aside from my diet being very strict, I only use EAAs/BCAAs, MST's cordyceps products, whey/casein, EFAs, and a multi. These 5 are a staple in my arsenal now and will not change, EVER.
In a simple world, I would just need those 5 supps to keep me going but of course we all like to have fun and are curious. Which is why I am very much thinking towards an Activate Xtreme and Triazole run; two of each for 8 full weeks with blood work pre and post. Last time I got ActX, I regrettably only got 1 bottle; big mistake because the benefits started reaping at about the end of the 3rd week (man, those dreams were awesome).
With all of this said, thank you DS for bringing what I've been wanting to the market for awhile; a non-hormonal AI. It has been worth the time and wait. Again, I hope didn't offend anyone with anything I have said. I could go on for days and love talking about things of this nature but who enjoys reading that, right? haha
IIRC we have a guy using Triazole as PCT but i'm not sure if he is getting bloodwork done.
Im (almost) positive we will be getting blood work from a scenario like this..
Geez, are these numbers the "real deal Holyfield"??? I have been out of commission with my training but I've had a lot to do deal with the last couple of months. But I am back and ready to roll. When I'm not training at least a good 3-5 days a week, I practically don't use anything; usually just whey and multis. I do this because over the last couple of months, I've started to see that my body can actually develop and grow pretty well without using a lot of supps.
What has really surprised me was the fact that I was doing very well using ONLY and ONLY Purple Wraath and MST's Cordygen5 and CU-VO2. Actually not that I think about it, well is an understatement. I honestly now believe your diet is without a doubt the #1 playing factor. I wish I would've logged some of this progress because I really now want to show some of you guys how easy it is and insane the results are by eating the simplest foods. Give me just a little more time and once I have everything settled, I will make sure to start logging.
But with all that said, are those numbers for real??? Since running Activate Xtreme, I knew DS was a solid company. Although I have nothing against LX, I stopped using running it because 1) like I said, I've really noticed that my body actually develops very well when I'm not stacking a whole bunch of supps.
And 2) I know I may get flamed here but I don't consider LX non-hormonal, and that goes for almost any cortisol supp out there. I still remember the first time I ran LX. It was literally the best recomp I've ever experienced, ever. No fat-reducing supp worked the way LX did and then I understood why as I became more interested in how things work. But obviously this isn't the time and place for it.
So now you guys are probably all thinking, "WTF is this dude doing in here then?", right? Well it's simple, I have longed for an all natural AI to come into play. For a couple of years now I have been yearning to run an AI, but I just feel like I would keep "downgrading" myself if I picked up a steroidal one. I mean I hear so many great things about them but just can't go that route. Again, don't take it the wrong way to those who do use them, but I feel like there is a line for me and I can get the look I want by not crossing that line.
With all this said, if these numbers are true then that's F'N solid. Has anyone here ever took blood tests before and after a PH/DS cycle, at least recently?
I would love to see a chart from someone's PH/DS cycle and then a chart from someone's (preferably the same person) non-hormonal cycle (ActX or MassFX or DTHC, etc.) and then compare.
I have faith in DS and their products, even if I don't use all of them. But since I've been out of the game for a couple months I really don't know any of the new products that actually have good credit; my last order was in February. I now try incorporate only the things that work within my system. Aside from my diet being very strict, I only use EAAs/BCAAs, MST's cordyceps products, whey/casein, EFAs, and a multi. These 5 are a staple in my arsenal now and will not change, EVER.
In a simple world, I would just need those 5 supps to keep me going but of course we all like to have fun and are curious. Which is why I am very much thinking towards an Activate Xtreme and Triazole run; two of each for 8 full weeks with blood work pre and post. Last time I got ActX, I regrettably only got 1 bottle; big mistake because the benefits started reaping at about the end of the 3rd week (man, those dreams were awesome).
With all of this said, thank you DS for bringing what I've been wanting to the market for awhile; a non-hormonal AI. It has been worth the time and wait. Again, I hope didn't offend anyone with anything I have said. I could go on for days and love talking about things of this nature but who enjoys reading that, right? haha
how much is everyone taking? 4 capsules or 6?
Guys, Tom's bloodwork for his 4 week Triazole + Activate Xtreme stack came back in. To say they are impressive is an understatement.
His TOTAL TESTOSTERONE went from 625 to 1032!!
His FREE TESTOSTERONE went from 74.9 to 148.1!!
Docs below:
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the kids T went to 1000 thats amazing! with supps liek this there really is no use for PH's anymore.
how are the effects on LBM and fat loss? it would be nice to see some measurements also.
big tom would you say you added any size during the 4 weeks. i know you were cutting but you say you put on 2 pounds whilst losing fat. did you take body fat measurements before/after?
sounds like a nice recomp would you agree?
I'll let Tom answer your question when he next gets on, but he was in a large calorie deficit throughout and still set PRs. He has before pics and pics at the two week stage up and in this thread already. I believe he has after pics that he needs to upload to his PC too.
how are the effects on LBM and fat loss? it would be nice to see some measurements also.
big tom would you say you added any size during the 4 weeks. i know you were cutting but you say you put on 2 pounds whilst losing fat. did you take body fat measurements before/after?
sounds like a nice recomp would you agree?
F that im running this MOFO like 4-6 pills a day
seriously I do want to try this and I'm a big dude ill think I need 5pills? Reps yeah true?
Do you know if this would be safe to throw into a SERM based PCT?? Like clomid?? My next cycle will be VERY VERY VERY suppressive and I wanna take every precaution and build up a lot of support/pct supps.
Looking forward to trying out Triazole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome! I'm still eager to see that bloodwork from the dude coming off his cycle. Is he using only Triazole as PCT or does he have any other products in that arsenal?
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Awesome! I'm still eager to see that bloodwork from the dude coming off his cycle. Is he using only Triazole as PCT or does he have any other products in that arsenal?
//CC
He recently added in Activate Xtreme. Hes 3 weeks in to PCT and says he feels great!
He told me yesterday that he is suffering NONE of the usual sides he has experienced during previous PCTs. No mood swings or mild depression. Nadda. Just says he feels awesome.
Dude after pct I'm on this with activate extreme. Talk to nutra see if they can set up a deal? 60$
should one tamper down on this or just go full dose the whole way?