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Operation "Get Swole" takes an assist with GHenerate & I-GH-1

Have you looked into Alflutop for the shoulder bro? 21 day cycles seem to help me for shoulder issues whenever mine is acting up.
 
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Looking big and buff in the wife-beater, mate. And oh so cool with the new shades!!!:cool2::147::bling:
 
Day 30 LG Sponsored Log with GHenerate & I-GH-1

Pre Stack Pictures posted page 1 post #2

Weight 235.0+ 4.4lb
Waist 34 + 1/4"
BP 128 / 78

Day 95 inj cycle

The Road to 500lb

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 750mg EW
EQ 300mg EW
epi/tren 30/90mg split (day 16)
Anavar 95mg ED


Weight 235.0 +10lb
Waist 34 -3.4"
BP 128 / 78

Half Way Mark Review

LG stack has treated me well, sleep still remains outrageous and recovery has to be improved of only for better sleep... Will probably extend the LG stack for an extra 2 months to experiment with the HGH claims, worth it for just the sleep alone..


Had great chest session yesterday all things considered but doing light shoulders was a bad idea and pain right after was not good, shooting pains up my kneck.

Happy to say that has subsided this morning and feeling a lot better, no more shoulders for the time being. Ok well ive thrown the kitchen sink in here EQ Anavar Cissus Animal Flex you name it.

I just seem to be going sideways in terms of gains, although im doing very close to my highs im unable to push through and this is very frustrating as the strength is definitely there. Dont feel i can gain any extra lean mass operating at sub par and to make things even more frustrating i just complete my 4th inj of Test E at new increased 750mg so the pit bull in me is dieng to be unleashed.

Guess ill give it a couple more weeks give the EQ time to kick in and all the other supps and then im just gonna have to reevaluate the cycle... Could go cutter with or without the Tren E could just cut cycle short... Dunno p!ssed

Anyway thoughts always welcome?

Im off to the beach get some rest

PEACE

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Have you looked into Alflutop for the shoulder bro? 21 day cycles seem to help me for shoulder issues whenever mine is acting up.

I do believe u r a genius

I'm on the beach trying to read up on this stuff from my phone what I see so far is all good infact, brilliant. Gotta love ur AM buddies :)

Do u need a prescription? It's for sale on eBay and amazon. Not even sure ic its FDA approved for humans. I see its used in animals, Damn I.need my computer

Thx man
 
Aflutop for reversing joint injury

Alflutop is a natural, injectable formula that is reported to be more effective than corticosteroid injections, as it not only reduces inflamation, but encourages repair and regeneration of cartilage and connective tissue. Alflutop has proven effective in clinical trials in degenerative joint disorders (bursitis, tendonitis, and arthritis). Comparable in effect, though different in formula from Adequan, Alflutop is reported to be a miracle drug for joint injuries. Alflutop is manufactured by BIOTEHNOS S.A. Romania, and is not approved by the FDA.

Description:
Each 1ml ampule of Alflutop contains 10 mg sea fish bioactive concentrate (amino acids, low molecular mass peptides, mucopolysaccharides, trace elements: Na, K, Ca, Mg, Fe, Cu, Zn), and maximum 5mg/100ml phenol as preservative.

How it works:
Alflutop falls into the group of chondroprotective products having anti-hyaluronidase, anti-inflammatory and analgesic action. Alflutop:
inhibits hyaluronidase excess;
restores chondrocytes homeostasis in damaged tissues;
stimulates regenerative processes at cartilage level;
adjusts synovial fluid synthesis;
stimulates superoxide dismutase;
inhibits occurrence of superoxide free radicals.
Dosing:
Intramuscular (IM) injection of 1 amp every day for 3 weeks, for a 21 day cycle, which can be followed up 2 months later. Intra-articular (IA) injection has also shown effective in later-stage clinical trials. 1-2 amps into the joint, E3D for 21 days.
If it's all the same, I think I'd go for the IM route. Not too big a fan of the prospect of stabbing through some cartilage or tendons, personally. There is probably little benefit, if any, to a local IM injection (close proximity to the injured joint), so I would skip it. You probably stand to do more harm than good by "threading the needle", so to speak, into your injured joint.

Alflutop has an active life of approximately 24-36 hours. The dosing protocols above are just guidelines, and the bottom line is you should continue treatment as long as necessary, if need be. There are no indications of toxicity, or any other negative side effects from Alflutop.

Clinical Trial Results:
The clinical trials have confirmed the efficacy of Alflutop in degenerative articular, post-traumatic pathology and abarticular rheumatism:
extremely few adverse reactions;
lack of major complications;
well tolerated, including the patients sufferring from gastrointestinal, cardiovascular and metabolic diseases; and

a favourable ratio of costs and clinical efficacy.
The clinical trials showed the therapeutical effect of Alflutop in the treatment of periarthritis, spondiloarthrosis, spinal disc injuries, ankylopoietic spondilitis, Reiter syndrome, and rheumatoid polyarthritis.

References:
1. Svetlova MS, Ignat'ev VK. [Use of alflutop in the treatment of patients with osteoarthrosis] Klin Med (Mosk). 2004;82(6):52-5.
2. Noskov SM, Fetelego OI, Krasivina IG, Dolgova LN. [Alflutop in local therapy of shoulder periarthritis] Ter Arkh. 2005;77(8):57-60.
3. Taran AI, Puzanova OG, Lapenko OIe, Sol's'kyi VI, Samoilova SM. [Experience gained with the use of local administration of medicinal remedies in rheumatic diseases] Lik Sprava. 2001 Sep-Dec;(5-6):182-5.

1. Svetlova MS, Ignat'ev VK
[Use of alflutop in the treatment of patients with osteoarthrosis]
Klin Med (Mosk). 2004;82(6):52-5. Russian.
PMID: 15344692 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

The efficiency of alflutop was studied in patients with osteoarthrosis (OA) of the knee or hip joints. The examinees (n = 24) received alflutop only intramuscularly (in coxarthrosis) or intramuscularly in combination with the intraarticular injection of the agent (in knee osteoarthrosis). Physical examinations were made in control periods: before and immediately, 3, 6, and 12 months after treatment. Arthrosonography was used as an objective method for controlling the efficacy of the drug. The studies have demonstrated that alflutop substantially relieves pain, improves the function of the diseased joints in patients with OA. Arthrosonography has shown that the drug exerts an antiinflammatory effect, retards the progression of a pathological process in the joint. Alflutop has been found to be more effective in knee OA than in hip OA, which is determined by that its combined use regimen may be used in knee OA. The necessity and high efficiency of repeated courses of alflutop therapy are shown.
PMID: 15344692 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


2. Noskov SM, Fetelego OI, Krasivina IG, Dolgova LN.
[Alflutop in local therapy of shoulder periarthritis]
Ter Arkh. 2005;77(8):57-60. Russian.
PMID: 16206607 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

AIM: To study efficacy of a compound biological preparation alflutop in local therapy of shoulder periarthritis (SP), to compare its efficacy with that of periarticular diprospan. MATERIAL AND METHODS: The trial included 54 patients with SP. Clinical SP forms consisted of subacromial and subdeltoid bursitis (SSB) (42.6%), tendinitis (57.4%). Acute disease was diagnosed in 35.2% patients, chronic one--in 64.8%. Alflutop and diprospan were injected periarticularly. The patients were divided into three groups. Patients of group 1 (n = 15) received alflutop monotherapy (2 ml, 5 injections). Group 2 (n = 24) received a single injection of diprospan (7 mg). Group 3 (n = 15) patients were given combined treatment: a single injection (7 mg) of diprospan followed by alflutop infiltrations (2 mg, 5 injections). The efficacy of the treatment was judged by some score clinical parameters, dynamometrical findings, SDQ score set, thermographic and ultrasonic signs of periarticular inflammation. RESULTS: A course of periarticular alflutop infiltrations in SP demonstrated the same efficacy as a single dose diprospan. However, in acute SP with bursitis diprospan produced a significantly better results while alflutop was better in chronic SP with tendinitis. Diprospan combination with alflutop produced the highest therapeutic effect irrespective of the disease course and clinical SP course. CONCLUSION: Local administration of alflutop in SP as monotherapy alternative to glucocorticosteroids or in combination with diprospan is effective. A differentiated approach allowing for a clinical form and course of SP raises therapeutic efficacy noticeably.
PMID: 16206607 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


3. Taran AI, Puzanova OG, Lapenko OIe, Sol's'kyi VI, Samoilova SM.
[Experience gained with the use of local administration of medicinal remedies in rheumatic diseases]
Lik Sprava. 2001 Sep-Dec;(5-6):182-5. Ukrainian.
PMID: 11881370 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

In the article, errors that are frequently encountered in dealing with rheumatic diseases are analysed together with the experience gained by the authors themselves with the management of 380 patients using local injections of corticosteroids (diprospan) and chondroprotectors (alflutop). The employment of local injection therapy has been shown to shorten considerably the patient's hospital stay, to improve the quality of life of the patients, with them being practically free from ill effects and complications.
PMID: 11881370 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
I was involved with research on aflutop an EOD at 1mg helped the subjects dramatically. followup indications showed therapy wasn't needed for tlat least 18-22 months following initial therapy.

u inject it normally bro IM. affects all joints.
 
I was involved with research on aflutop an EOD at 1mg helped the subjects dramatically. followup indications showed therapy wasn't needed for tlat least 18-22 months following initial therapy.

u inject it normally bro IM. affects all joints.
can u get it without doc?
 
1ml a day for 21 days seems most common and most users report really good results

Newbie its very easy to find and is used in Europe however it is not FDA approved as of right now

I have a bunch of studies that ill post
 
Need to take a look at Adequan also taken IM E4D stack of the two would be win win from what I can see
 
Need to take a look at Adequan also taken IM E4D stack of the two would be win win from what I can see

Canine or equine? And that's damn near impossible to get without a veterinary prescription...
 
Canine or equine? And that's damn near impossible to get without a veterinary prescription...

EQ already added that to my stack @ 300mg EW and VAR 100mg ED.

But Alflutop shud be added to, its the perfect stack for joints and collagen synthesis
 
Edwitt, PM.....much better source for it than ebay. Ive gotten it on there before but takes like a month, plus no tracking or anything.
 
Day 31 LG Sponsored Log with GHenerate & I-GH-1

Pre Stack Pictures posted page 1 post #2

Weight 235.0+ 4.4lb
Waist 34 + 1/4"
BP 128 / 78

Day 96 inj cycle

The Road to 500lb

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 750mg EW
EQ 300mg EW
epi/tren 30/90mg split (day 17)
Anavar 95mg ED


Weight 235.0 +10lb
Waist 34 -3.4"
BP 128 / 78

Rough nights sleep, was up rethininking what i could have done differently and how to approach this going fwd. So to summarize cycle has far exceded all expectations up until recent shoulder problems. Its not so bad i cant lift but its a problem thats not going away with the heavy stuff so progress of adding LBM is limited. Infact i feel like ive gotten a bit soft arounf the belly as dropped the cardio some when i started the Dbol for a mini bulk. Now that i cant push as hard for growth im gonna have to re evaluate calories and cardio.

I dont want to cut cycle short as im still reacting well and gains were not rapering off at all and that was before icreasing test e to 750mg... So gonna try and be patient and give the VAR and EQ a chance and ive ordered some Alfutrop, ive only read positive results fro this. Also gonna see my doc this week and prob have some chiro and maybe orthopedic specialis.t

So gonna make sure to get cardio going again and focus on some recomp while shoulder repairs its self. Two days rest and it feels 90% but i just knoe as soon as i put any weight on it even cables crossovers its gonna flare up, fingers crossed.

Today 60 minutes of Abs, I will make sure i get a nice long walk in on the beach and im gonna drop the carbs lower get some Ketosis going maybe break out the Helios for another 2 weeks

Ill post some more info on Alfutrop and Adequan later

Im off to go check on my crab pot :)

Thoughts always welcome?

PEACE

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Ed you will have to let us know how the Alf treats you my friend! I am def interested in this, especially after reading how it affects the knees. Would love to add this after the recovery piece post surgery. I will research this a little more like you are, and also use you as the test dummy (pardon the expression lol) in high hopes that this helps the shoulder out. I wouldn't mind paying $50 or $5000 for repaired knees....
 
The titties were laughing? :toofunny:

I assume you meant jiggling... :veryhappy:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! No, I figured that. I just wanted to give you sh!t because you didn't specify. You just said titties, you didn't say WHOSE titties.
 
Ed you will have to let us know how the Alf treats you my friend! I am def interested in this, especially after reading how it affects the knees. Would love to add this after the recovery piece post surgery. I will research this a little more like you are, and also use you as the test dummy (pardon the expression lol) in high hopes that this helps the shoulder out. I wouldn't mind paying $50 or $5000 for repaired knees....

it works buddy...tons of research behind it
 
it works buddy...tons of research behind it

Yes there is, appears to have good results in most.

PR any experience with Adequan? This looks to be pretty solid too not so easy to find but where there's a will thwres a way and I got plenty of will.
 
honestly from what I've seen with adequan I wouldn't really mess with it. Better off with the alflutop.
 
honestly from what I've seen with adequan I wouldn't really mess with it. Better off with the alflutop.

What I've found so far looks good but ill keep searching. They are complete different profiles and if used I would stack them Alfutop ED Adequan E4D back to my homework :)
 
Pre Stack Pictures posted page 1 post #2

Weight 234 + 3.4lb
Waist 34 + 1/4"
BP 128 / 78

Day 97 inj cycle

The Road to 500lb

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 750mg EW
EQ 300mg EW
epi/tren 30/90mg split (day 18)
Anavar 95mg ED


Weight 234.0 +9lb
Waist 34 -3.4"
BP 128 / 78

Fun day yesterday caught bunch of sand sharks off of the beach 6 to be precise, pictures to follow, my son brought one in to... He was well happy with himself :)

Shoulder feels great but i say that every Monday...

Ive been going over my logs and i really do believe that this Anavar helps... In preparation for this cycle is was cutting and in the back stretch i did 8 weeks of Var which bridged 2 weeks into the current cycle. I was using the VAR to maintain muscle and strength while cutting, i also had a very similar problem in my other shoulder. After 6 weeks of the VAR that pain and discomfort was gone and i entered this cycle 100% healthy and right in my old PR range from last years mega bulk (175 to 255lb)... At the time i never credited the VAR for this and i hadnt researched the effects of VAR in ligaments and joints. I refer to my post earlier discussing the benefits (i refer to post 410 and subsequent posts)

The short answer is YES anavar is well studied for enhanced wound healing/tissue repair. The "rotator cuff" is basically a group of muscles and tendons... ie tissue.

Oxandrolone causes:
1) backdoor increase in GH
2) increased collagen and elastin synthesis (repair the tendon portion)
3) increased nitrogen retention (strengthen the muscle portion)

That being said im now a good solid 12 days into the VAR at 100mg ED and it would appear im reaping the benefits once again... Ill have a better assessment after putting some weight on it today and tomorrow..

Today

Back/bis

Thoughts always welcome?

Ohhh..

While i continue to recuperate cardio is upped carbs are down Keto is in... I will be a lean mean fighting machine

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Thoughts always welcome?

Ohhh..

While i continue to recuperate cardio is upped carbs are down Keto is in... I will be a lean mean fighting machine

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My thoughts are worthless mate, but I love this log :bigok:

When I hit the natural ceiling and decide to run a cycle you are definitely the first person I will call, keep up the fantastic work!

I love the cat vid, i'd be pretty happy if my hand speed was a good as the cat's... what's the cat taking? whatever it's on I want!!!
 
My thoughts are worthless mate, but I love this log :bigok:

When I hit the natural ceiling and decide to run a cycle you are definitely the first person I will call, keep up the fantastic work!

I love the cat vid, i'd be pretty happy if my hand speed was a good as the cat's... what's the cat taking? whatever it's on I want!!!

EVERYONE'S thoughts are important, we are all here to help/push one another; that is the reason for the forum. And I second that notion, when I come to the "dark side," Ed, you will be the first one I contact!!!!
 
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The short answer is YES anavar is well studied for enhanced wound healing/tissue repair. The "rotator cuff" is basically a group of muscles and tendons... ie tissue.

Oxandrolone causes:
1) backdoor increase in GH
2) increased collagen and elastin synthesis (repair the tendon portion)
3) increased nitrogen retention (strengthen the muscle portion)

That being said im now a good solid 12 days into the VAR at 100mg ED and it would appear im reaping the benefits once again... Ill have a better assessment after putting some weight on it today and tomorrow..

Today

Back/bis

This shoulder issue is only temporary, mate. I know you're not enjoying it in the least bit. But these things come and go with lifting weights. Especially the heavy stuff. I've had my share of aches, pains, minor and major injuries, and even torn muscles over my 27 years of lifting the iron.
Everything heals.......eventually. :thumbsup:
It won't be long until you can look back on this like ancient history. It will pass. Just keep doing the Var, use that Alflutop and get back to 100%.

We're all rooting for you, edwitt!!!:arms::head:
 
Yea

and upon chatting with someone far smarter than me, no Keto... Decided that is for lazy people

Keep it simple back to what was working, carb cycling

60 20 20 cardio 45 x 3 a week

End of story
 
This shoulder issue is only temporary, mate. I know you're not enjoying it in the least bit. But these things come and go with lifting weights. Especially the heavy stuff. I've had my share of aches, pains, minor and major injuries, and even torn muscles over my 27 years of lifting the iron.
Everything heals.......eventually. :thumbsup:
It won't be long until you can look back on this like ancient history. It will pass. Just keep doing the Var, use that Alflutop and get back to 100%.

We're all rooting for you, edwitt!!!:arms::head:

cheers and your a 100% right

EVERYONE'S thoughts are important, we are all here to help/push one another; that is the reason for the forum. And I second that notion, when I come to the "dark side," Ed, you will be the first one I contact!!!!

Dunno about that but thx anyway

My thoughts are worthless mate, but I love this log :bigok:

When I hit the natural ceiling and decide to run a cycle you are definitely the first person I will call, keep up the fantastic work!

I love the cat vid, i'd be pretty happy if my hand speed was a good as the cat's... what's the cat taking? whatever it's on I want!!!

Yea cat .gif is brilliant

Ok off to the gym and see how we feel

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EVERYONE'S thoughts are important, we are all here to help/push one another; that is the reason for the forum. And I second that notion, when I come to the "dark side," Ed, you will be the first one I contact!!!!

agreed mate, I just meant from a position of my relative "newbeiness", i didn't feel that i could add value to Edwitt's post but wanted him to know I definitely supportive, even if unable to contribute!

but totally in awe of you big guns :fing02:
 
Ok its done ive been taking the Vitex 1200mg for a week now, its served me well in the past

ive never had any progestin sides before from any oral progestins, fingers crossed

1st pin 300mg Tren Enth 10 minutes ago

:bigok:
 
It's begun shred fest is officially under way, off for 40 minutes of spinning

:)

50 minutes cardio on the bike 20 minutes in the bedroom :) Refuel and back off to see where were at with this shoulder

Just weighed in ... Not good 231lb and waist 34.5" so my waist is up a full inch from the lows 33.4 and weight basically the same but strength continues to climb

But on the bright side lets look at the big picture
90 day progress
Weight +6lbs waist -2.9" bench up 90lb

Feeling good about things again right now... Im just gonna go with the flow i can do no more see what happens, shoulder has 2 weeks to repair (EQ,VAR and Aflutop) then im gonna have to reevaluate as the Tren kicks in Either way should be a fun ride and im excited again

Well that was a great WO been missing my stims... Threw them back into the mix and my Purple Wraath


365 x 7 on the bench wasnt to shabby

Dropped the weight down to 315 for sets 8 8 5 5 then 275 to failure x 2
Incline cable flys dropset from 70 - 30 was dead by that point... Big swig of PW and banged out multiple sets of rope pull down and V bar pulldowns to failure pretty much no rest

Shoulder held up good... Also looking back to my previous shoulder injury through my logs i noticed i didnt do any shoulder routines not even light ones until it was 100%

So this is what i look like with 34.5 " lets aim for 32" by Sept 1st
 
It's begun shred fest is officially under way, off for 40 minutes of spinning

:)

50 minutes cardio on the bike 20 minutes in the bedroom :) Refuel and back off to see where were at with this shoulder

Just weighed in ... Not good 231lb and waist 34.5" so my waist is up a full inch from the lows 33.4 and weight basically the same but strength continues to climb

But on the bright side lets look at the big picture
90 day progress
Weight +6lbs waist -2.9" bench up 90lb

Feeling good about things again right now... Im just gonna go with the flow i can do no more see what happens, shoulder has 2 weeks to repair (EQ,VAR and Aflutop) then im gonna have to reevaluate as the Tren kicks in Either way should be a fun ride and im excited again

Well that was a great WO been missing my stims... Threw them back into the mix and my Purple Wraath


365 x 7 on the bench wasnt to shabby

Dropped the weight down to 315 for sets 8 8 5 5 then 275 to failure x 2
Incline cable flys dropset from 70 - 30 was dead by that point... Big swig of PW and banged out multiple sets of rope pull down and V bar pulldowns to failure pretty much no rest

Shoulder held up good... Also looking back to my previous shoulder injury through my logs i noticed i didnt do any shoulder routines not even light ones until it was 100%

So this is what i look like with 34.5 " lets aim for 32" by Sept 1st

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Will look better with 32" waist
 
Everything in here looks great Ed, well except the shoulder but that Aflutop has my attention to the point I am going to read up a little more but am basically sold on the idea.

BigPR or UNC 21 with say a shoulder injury, for me I know it is the cartilage in the joint you say IM is still going to work fine? Does it need to be localized like same area or is it systemic in nature IE intramuscular just to get into the system but at any location?

What size pins would be best for this?
 
Everything in here looks great Ed, well except the shoulder but that Aflutop has my attention to the point I am going to read up a little more but am basically sold on the idea.

BigPR or UNC 21 with say a shoulder injury, for me I know it is the cartilage in the joint you say IM is still going to work fine? Does it need to be localized like same area or is it systemic in nature IE intramuscular just to get into the system but at any location?

What size pins would be best for this?

This in bold

Re pins 1" 28g would do the trick in the delt

Interested to know how thick the solution is and if a slin 5/8" would be ok?

PR or Unc?
 
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