Best preworkout supp?

fast twitch, white flood, jacked...

fast twitch just gives you insane energy tons of caffiene and helps u pump out more reps.

White flood- dont know how to explain it but damn good feeling deff lets you workout harder than any other supplment (pre workout)

Jacked - the tingles/ nervousness is alot different feeling than other pre workouts. It will give u a different type of pre workout feeling.

white flood is rather expensive, jacked takes 3 scoops so its really only 15 servings in one tub. Fast Twitch is pretty cheap although i dont see it arond anymore?
 
Everyone who uses premax loves it but price is an issue, I used to take shock therapy and got great punps on it
 
BBB said:
My favorite peworkout supps are, in order:

1. Omega Ultima- Love the product dislike the taste, however the latest version is not bad but difficult to obtain. Every run sells out very quickly. I seldom get sore after using this preworkout.

2. PreMax - Good stuff, very expensive. Taste is ok but I mix with RagNOrok to improve the flavor. I seldom get sore after using this preworkout.

3. RagNOrok - Good stuff, mild stim.

4. NO Shotgun - Good stuff, mild stim.

I have used a lot of preworkout products over the years and these are my favorites, however keep in mind that I don't like products with heavy stims like Jack3d and some others. I do however love the "pump" so I tend to look for products that have a very mild or no stim effect and good pump characteristics. Moreover, I dislike proprietary blends, that’s one of the reasons Omega and PreMax top my list and also because they are the best IMO.
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This man knows what he's talking about.



HATEFULone said:
Everyone who uses premax loves it but price is an issue, I used to take shock therapy and got great punps on it
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GPLC isn't cheap.. You get what you pay for.
 
**Mandatory PIMPing for company: Love Muscle Marinade, worth a look into**

:D

Seems most people covered all the popular ones in the thread and basically these threads get the popular choices.
It really comes down to individual tastes I think and exactly what you expect form a preworkout.

I know Presurge Unleashed has some really great reviews all over the internet. XF Vengeance is a really good one as well without a ton of stimulants and unique high dosed formula.
I think Muscle Marinade competes up with the strongest in the stimulant category easily and is 27 real servings (1 scoops only) as is aforementioned XF product.

I thought Jack3ed was a decent one when I grabbed a few original bottles, but even then I quickly needed 3 scoops so they went quick and I never got a real kick in my pants feeling but the new formula doesn't do anything for me personally (stimulant junkie here though).

If you can get samples of different things that would be the way to go and obviously research them and see what people like or don't like about formulas before making your decision. Lots of good products out there to be had in this category since its an arms race :)
 
my local supp store matches any price u find online- so i went to pick up some ASGT this weekend, but they didn't carry it. i browsed around just reading ingredient profiles and saw dymatize xpand xtreme pump has a very solid ingredient list, so i picked it up (40 servings for ~$28). its instantly one of my favorite pre-workouts. i only used one scoop and the pumps and vascularity were crazy. it also gave great energy even though i've a very high stim tolerance. i was a bit hesitant to buy it because i tried dymatize xpand pills before and received basically no benefits whatsoever.

my other favorites are no-shotgun (love the 20g protein) and jack3d. I'd also like to try AEN's presurge unleashed but its somewhat expensive.

i also recently finished a bottle of hemavol and its solid but not spectacular, imo.
 
16 Packets Variety Pack
Serving Size1Packet
Servings Per Container16
Serving Amount % Daily Value
Calories ~81
Total Fat 0 0%
Carbohydrates 0mg 0%
Sodium 65mg 2.6%
Protein 20g 40%
Protein Hydrolysate Matrix Yielding 22% Glutamine Peptide, 21% BCAA Peptide, & 41% EAA's 9,660mg **
Casein Protein Hydrolysate
Whey Protein Hydrolysate
Ionic Whey Protein
Proprietary Branched Chain Ethyl Ester Amino Acid Matrix
L-Leucine, L-Valine, :-Isoleucine, L-Arginine, L-Valine Ethyl Ester, L-2-Aminopentanoic Acid (L-Nor Valine), L-Alanyl Glutamine, L-Arginine Ehtyl Ester Di-HCL, L-Isoleucine Ethyl Ester HCL, L-Leucine Ethyl Ester HCL
Proprietary Muscle Volumizing, NO2, Insulinotrophic Matrix 10,055mg **
Creatine Gluconate
CEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL)
Creatine Taurinate
Creatine Monohydrate
COP® (Creatinol-O-Phosphate)
Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Di-L-Arginine Malate
Citrulline Malate
Gamma-Butyrobetaine Ethyl Ester
Magnesium Tashinoate B
Bis Picolinato Oxo Vanadium (BPOV)
Gamma-Butyrobetaine
Power, Speed, Strength And Endurance Matrix
Beta Alanine/beta Alanine Ethyl Ester HCL
Guanidinopropionic Acid (GPA)
L-Histidine
KIC(Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium)
Phosphates
Vitamin B6(Pyridoxine HCL- 250%
Creatine Magnesium Chelate
Redline Energy & Meltdown Fat Burning Technology 377mg **
L-Tyrosine
Caffeine Anhydrous
Beta Phenylethylamine HCL
Hordenine HCL
Folate(as Folic Acid)-100%
R-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
** Daily Value not established
Other Ingredients
Natural And Artificial Flavor, Malic Acid, Sucralean Brand Sucralose (A Non-Nutritive Sweetner), Citric Acid Anhydrous, Monosodium Phosphate Anhydrous, Tri-Sodium Phosphate Dodecahydrate, Glycine (Food Grade).
 
sonofsteven said:
I enjoy the beat alinine flush I get from jack3d . Makes my skin get up and dance . I only use PW's on days when I am dragging ass for whatever reason -not enough sleep , hard day at work whatevr so the tub lasted a while . Got an email advertising Pump Fixx and several people comparing it to Jack3d so I'm prob gonna give it a shot today. I hope it tastes better than that nasty thera flu lemony Jack3d . This Ragnarok of which people speak kind of has my interest also . Might try it when the funds come available .
Oh yeah I will def try a white flood samp . Much thanks !
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If you have tried Jack3d please try Pump Fixx and let us know how you think it compares. We were aiming to make this better then Jack3d.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
If you have tried Jack3d please try Pump Fixx and let us know how you think it compares. We were aiming to make this better then Jack3d.
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not be A$$ why try to make it better - just make it better? or even better come up wiht somthing new... just my two cents.. or you can mix a scoop of assault with premax and get the Ba tingles and some crepure, suma root,pomegranate, PeptoPro and GPLC. all in for about $65 40 serving....

I am trying to be crazy!!!!
 
im super stoked to try the following
hemavol with white flood with added vitamin c,green tea, fish oils, creatine mono, creatine gluconate, CEE, AEE, and arginine AKG. might be overkill but heck why not
 
This Jack3d sounds interesting. ASGT as well. Seems white flood is fairly liked too overall.

Presently I've only ever taken SP250. (Gf too on occasion) I guess I'm the odd man out. I take about 1/6 of a scoop. Yes, 1/6 and I feel it. I'm not wired to the teeth, but don't really wanna be either, lolz. But for that extra 'lil boost or wake me up, I find it works pretty well for that. Pumps, not sooo much, but that likely due to my minimal dosing.

So, I guess I'd have to say SP250 (although yes, some days it does mess with the belly a bit... :O( Cuz I have no doubt if I ever took the whole recommended 3 scoops I'd be running around the gym like a maniac with his hair on fire (between bathroom breaks... ) then be up for the next 3 days until I simply collapsed.

haha!!!
 
Simple and effective

Cre02 : 3-4 caps
RPM : 2 caps


If I have some extra funds for it I'll throw some ubiquinol or Coq10/ubiquinone ( Now brand ) with also Chromium ( Now gtf )
 
imjuschillin said:
This Jack3d sounds interesting. ASGT as well. Seems white flood is fairly liked too overall.

Presently I've only ever taken SP250. (Gf too on occasion) I guess I'm the odd man out. I take about 1/6 of a scoop. Yes, 1/6 and I feel it. I'm not wired to the teeth, but don't really wanna be either, lolz. But for that extra 'lil boost or wake me up, I find it works pretty well for that. Pumps, not sooo much, but that likely due to my minimal dosing.

So, I guess I'd have to say SP250 (although yes, some days it does mess with the belly a bit... :O( Cuz I have no doubt if I ever took the whole recommended 3 scoops I'd be running around the gym like a maniac with his hair on fire (between bathroom breaks... ) then be up for the next 3 days until I simply collapsed.

haha!!!
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SP250 was okay for me it did make me fart like crazy and had a good pump while lifting but only complaint is that as soon i racked the weight pumps just vanished
 
I've tried quite a few, and my favorite is VPX NO Shotgun. Nothing quite compares.

Next on my list is Pre-Max. I've had good luck with PP products, so I'm quite hopeful.
 
I like Jack3d a lot, but the caffine raises my BP.

Planning on trying Xtreme Pump, the no caffine version.
 
TimberLakers said:
I gotta go with ASGT... Jacked being a close second. Though I had Jacked right when it game out - I think they had an ingredient change at some point.
The tub of ASGT seems to last forever, even at a double dose.

My third (and ultimately unpopular) choice is SuperPump 250.
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You wouldn't be told the truth eitherway, you do realize that I hope...
 
10ringaz said:
I like Jack3d a lot, but the caffine raises my BP.Planning on trying Xtreme Pump, the no caffine version.
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Thats the dimethylamylamine ( a powerful associated amphetamine and potent nor-epi releaser )bro.. not the caffine...They call it "geramium", instead of the proper chemical name.
 
mDeezy said:
16 Packets Variety Pack
Serving Size1Packet
Servings Per Container16
Serving Amount % Daily Value
Calories ~81
Total Fat 0 0%
Carbohydrates 0mg 0%
Sodium 65mg 2.6%
Protein 20g 40%
Protein Hydrolysate Matrix Yielding 22% Glutamine Peptide, 21% BCAA Peptide, & 41% EAA's 9,660mg **
Casein Protein Hydrolysate
Whey Protein Hydrolysate
Ionic Whey Protein
Proprietary Branched Chain Ethyl Ester Amino Acid Matrix
L-Leucine, L-Valine, :-Isoleucine, L-Arginine, L-Valine Ethyl Ester, L-2-Aminopentanoic Acid (L-Nor Valine), L-Alanyl Glutamine, L-Arginine Ehtyl Ester Di-HCL, L-Isoleucine Ethyl Ester HCL, L-Leucine Ethyl Ester HCL
Proprietary Muscle Volumizing, NO2, Insulinotrophic Matrix 10,055mg **
Creatine Gluconate
CEX®(creatine ethyl ester HCL)
Creatine Taurinate
Creatine Monohydrate
COP® (Creatinol-O-Phosphate)
Di-Na Creatine Phosphate Tetrahydrate
Di-L-Arginine Malate
Citrulline Malate
Gamma-Butyrobetaine Ethyl Ester
Magnesium Tashinoate B
Bis Picolinato Oxo Vanadium (BPOV)
Gamma-Butyrobetaine
Power, Speed, Strength And Endurance Matrix
Beta Alanine/beta Alanine Ethyl Ester HCL
Guanidinopropionic Acid (GPA)
L-Histidine
KIC(Ketoisocaproic Acid Calcium)
Phosphates
Vitamin B6(Pyridoxine HCL- 250%
Creatine Magnesium Chelate
Redline Energy & Meltdown Fat Burning Technology 377mg **
L-Tyrosine
Caffeine Anhydrous
Beta Phenylethylamine HCL
Hordenine HCL
Folate(as Folic Acid)-100%
R-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
** Daily Value not established
Other Ingredients
Natural And Artificial Flavor, Malic Acid, Sucralean Brand Sucralose (A Non-Nutritive Sweetner), Citric Acid Anhydrous, Monosodium Phosphate Anhydrous, Tri-Sodium Phosphate Dodecahydrate, Glycine (Food Grade).
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nice!
 
Ession said:
Which preworkout supp is your favorite? I've heard nothing but good things about jack3d and I'm getting a sample so I'm stoked.

But I've also heard great things about ASGT.

Which do you guys prefer? Which is better?
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Which preworkout supp is your favorite?
mine are:
PP's beta-a 1g
IBCAA 10g
ASGT 1scoop
PP's creapure 2-4g
tp's ALCAR 0.5g
somthimes a bit of germanium oil extract 20-40mg.


all mixed together 40min preWO! :-P
 
Alright I have tried Jack3d for 3 workouts now at 2 heaping scoops preworkout, haven't noticed any great pumps yet, but energy is up, however I feel kinda dead about 3 hours after taking it. No headaches or stomach upset though, the flavor is light and it mixes well. I plan on comparing it to premax and also the new no-xplode as I've come across some samples. Hopefully getting my premax in end of this week so I can give each one a weeks worth trial run.
 
HATEFULone said:
Alright I have tried Jack3d for 3 workouts now at 2 heaping scoops preworkout, haven't noticed any great pumps yet, but energy is up, however I feel kinda dead about 3 hours after taking it. No headaches or stomach upset though, the flavor is light and it mixes well. I plan on comparing it to premax and also the new no-xplode as I've come across some samples. Hopefully getting my premax in end of this week so I can give each one a weeks worth trial run.
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My two cents u can not compare Premax=Ferrari to jack=BMW 3 I am sorry two diff products
 
islandmagic said:
My two cents u can not compare Premax=Ferrari to jack=BMW 3 I am sorry two diff products
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what is white flood a monster truck?
hemavol should be a mototrcycle or an airplane or a tractor.
 
mDeezy said:
No xplode original was a Ford Taurus but now it's a huffy with training wheels.
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lol, not even... it should be just like the rim of a huffy
 
Well since we're comparing pre-workout supplements to cars, this is what I feel like on Invalid Link Removed...BULLETPROOF! :D

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CONTROLLED LABS said:
sure is, you can get a free sample right now via the link in my signature below. no other quality products beats it at price per serving or effects :)
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hey can i get like a months worth of supply of free samples?
that would be sweet
 
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