Dwight Schrute
I am faster than 80% of all snakes
Sort of like how the Iphone dominates yet its junk.
Or how those who defend Windows in here freely admit they prefer other choices
iPhone 4, Who's getting one?
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Sort of like how the Iphone dominates yet its junk.
Or how those who defend Windows in here freely admit they prefer other choices
DAdams91982
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Sort of like how the Iphone dominates yet its junk.
Or how those who defend Windows in here freely admit they prefer other choices
I never said the Iphone is junk... cool gadget, not for me.
I use the spectrum myself, but rely 99% of windows for home and work. But to say MS OSes is crap is ominous at best.
Reminds me of the south park episode with the Hybrid car drivers... polluting the air with smug.
Dwight Schrute
I am faster than 80% of all snakes
Vista was junk and you know it. :lol:
DAdams91982
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Ha... funny thing is... I personally love it, and have no problems with it. Never had family call me with issues with either Vista or Win7 so far.
I do enjoy the code reduction in Win7 though.
Dwight Schrute
I am faster than 80% of all snakes
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Look at that.. Business... then there is the Grundge Trendy! heard loud and clear!
votum
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In other words, you want to tweak it so your games run smoother.
In other words, there is more to fix, your able to fix it, therefore you like Windows.
Got it
Exactly
Linux is my OS of choice, but you just can't run it solo yet, WINE works pretty well, but not for everything
votum
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And the code reduction in 7 is seriously $
7 pretty much fixed all that was wrong with windows. They made it faster than XP, it was the same kernel as Vista which means almost all vista drivers will work on 7, they improved the eye candy that vista had, that new task bar is so much better than anything has ever been, you honestly do not even need 3rd party anti-virus, the MS offering is one of the best solutions right now, and my boot time is seriously under 30 seconds. I haven't even spent any real time tweaking, since I only have about 2 hours a day if that of free time
7 pretty much fixed all that was wrong with windows. They made it faster than XP, it was the same kernel as Vista which means almost all vista drivers will work on 7, they improved the eye candy that vista had, that new task bar is so much better than anything has ever been, you honestly do not even need 3rd party anti-virus, the MS offering is one of the best solutions right now, and my boot time is seriously under 30 seconds. I haven't even spent any real time tweaking, since I only have about 2 hours a day if that of free time
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
And the code reduction in 7 is seriously $
7 pretty much fixed all that was wrong with windows. They made it faster than XP, it was the same kernel as Vista which means almost all vista drivers will work on 7, they improved the eye candy that vista had, that new task bar is so much better than anything has ever been, you honestly do not even need 3rd party anti-virus, the MS offering is one of the best solutions right now, and my boot time is seriously under 30 seconds. I haven't even spent any real time tweaking, since I only have about 2 hours a day if that of free time
Haha, the Windows 7 task-bar is the Macintosh task-bar redux. You have to admit, after the talk of Apple's lack of innovation, it is funny to hear you enjoying the perks of Microsoft's out-and-out Mac-like remodeling of Windows' aesthetic appeal.
DAdams91982
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You are kidding right? They are nothing alike. Mac taskbar is a DIRECT rip off of Sun Solaris 9 taskbar... playing it loose and fast with that innovation word there! :lol:
Young Gotti
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everyone seems to be talking about the innovative products or marketing that apple has....does anyone forget that apples products are garbage?....they work for about 6 months and then face plant into a grave....2 ipods (actually i take that back 1 is still working but i can't add music to it because it freezes), 2 prior iphones ( 1 overheated and fried the internals, and the other dropped call after call after call before it died
when i had my first ipod and that thing was terrible i figured maybe i just got a bad ipod because ppl were loving theres, but 4 of their products all being terrible not only to use but on how they hold up is no longer just the products that i have had
since then my brother has had different mp3 players and theirs don't freeze, it's easy to put music on or remove music from without messing up the whole computer system, i've had 1 phone since my last iphone, the 2 i had lasted about a total of 5 months, i think this phone is going on the 15th month and still going strong, i've also computer that runs windows xp since 2003 and no problems there either
so who cares about market share and all of that, ppl are being fooled because apple right now is the "cool" company, but if they make garbage why fall into the trend and why not just buy quality products
when i had my first ipod and that thing was terrible i figured maybe i just got a bad ipod because ppl were loving theres, but 4 of their products all being terrible not only to use but on how they hold up is no longer just the products that i have had
since then my brother has had different mp3 players and theirs don't freeze, it's easy to put music on or remove music from without messing up the whole computer system, i've had 1 phone since my last iphone, the 2 i had lasted about a total of 5 months, i think this phone is going on the 15th month and still going strong, i've also computer that runs windows xp since 2003 and no problems there either
so who cares about market share and all of that, ppl are being fooled because apple right now is the "cool" company, but if they make garbage why fall into the trend and why not just buy quality products
DAdams91982
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I disagree.. I have had two ipod nanos for the gym, each one without problems. I would have never bought a second one, but some douche stole it outta my truck. I'd still be running on the gray screen 1st gen if it wasnt for that tom douchery.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
I have three iPods (one was a gift) and an iMac, and have never had a single issue with any of them. And I have had the iMac and iPod since Christmas '07.
And not to reiterate the "you need to learn..," argument I commented on earlier, but if you cannot operate iTunes, you need to shoot yourself in the face. Too bad Tupac did not instruct you on how to point-and-click.
votum
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I've got a ZuneHD and an Army issued iPod...one of the benefits of being a linguist also (yeah, im pretty BA, lmao) I have had one of the army ipods die on me, and I know several people who have had theirs die also. iPod is a good product imo, but Zune is so much nicer for audio/video playback. The ZuneHD is an mp3 player first, whereas an ipod is a little computer. Different targets there imo.
also, im fin beat, and going to sleep, sorry if the above doesn't make sense or apply, That's what I do when im sleepy (not make sense)
also, im fin beat, and going to sleep, sorry if the above doesn't make sense or apply, That's what I do when im sleepy (not make sense)
Young Gotti
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it's not the ease of use from the itunes, its that the software itself actually is terrible, 2 ipods like i said, install itunes on 2 computers, everytime i plug the ipod in, computer freezes....at first i thought it was the ipod that i had, gave it away, received a free i pod touch, installed itunes on another computer, again worked fine for like 2 weeks, now same thing, program is trash
and what does me listening to rap have to do with anything at all? thats just ignorant and dumb, it's like me saying oh ppl listen to led zepplin, they are moroons or you listen to bruce springstein your a scumbag....theres no need
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Your name is a gangster-rap pseudonym, and you called a petty thug who happened to write mediocore poetry a teacher. Just funny! Lighten up.
:lol:
Young Gotti
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i'm not gonna get into this with u....we can go back and fourth about his music affected a larger amount of ppl than anyone before him....i can also take shots at how whatever music you listen to has no meaning to it, but why bother
DAdams91982
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Wait, what? I dont even care for this argument... but seriously... Tupac affected more people than say... Pink Floyd?
Young Gotti
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yes, think about how many more ppl were in the u.s. in the 90's than the 60's or 70's....how many more ppl had access to music now than they did then....pink floyd is not even close....i don't like their music but even ppl who do always would put the beatles, rolling stones, and led zepplin ahead of pink floyd....and even all that music was mostly listened to by white kids, tupac stretched a way bigger audience from whites, to all minorities
so even though i think he's way more advanced than a led zepplin when it comes to affecting ppl....even if you disagree the population in the united states alone just means tupac was able to switch a lot of ppls attitudes
Jayhawkk
Legend
Itunes is a pain in the ass with the ipod compared to many other types out there... I own an Ipod and have had zero technical issues with it but GD Itunes. It would be nice to be able to delete a song from the damn thing without plugging it into the computer and firing up the software.
Young Gotti
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i agree, and thats all i was saying....i don't know what mp3 player my brother has, but whatever system he uses to add or delete music from the player runs so much smoother than mine
Jayhawkk
Legend
You have to be absolutely nuts to think those bands had less influence than Tupac. I'm a Tupac fan and don't really care for a majority of the songs from the bands you mentioned but they not only paved the way for a new era of music but they influenced fans and artists alike...
Tupac had good music but HE didn't define any new genre of music or even expand it... Hell Sugar Hill Gang had more influence than Tupac and their career spanned all of nothing. Tupac was just a talented rapper. It's one thing to defend the guy as someone who had an impact and influence on other rappers but another completely to think he had more than bands like the Beetles etc.
Tupac had good music but HE didn't define any new genre of music or even expand it... Hell Sugar Hill Gang had more influence than Tupac and their career spanned all of nothing. Tupac was just a talented rapper. It's one thing to defend the guy as someone who had an impact and influence on other rappers but another completely to think he had more than bands like the Beetles etc.
DAdams91982
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Wow, just wow. Your music knowledge is very one sided then. Pink Floyd was blending racial divides well before Tupac was a stain in his momma's panties. A band that reached all global corners without the help of uploading their track to itunes. Please provide me with this gleaming research that only us crackers listened to the Floyd... cause I go to the Australian show every year and see a nice melting pot there.
Young Gotti
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your forgetting that besides the beatles, they are legendary so of course they did a lot for music, but did they influence how ppl lived in any way? their music was good but it was pop with no real substance until about war time when they put messages in their music
but the other bands i've mentioned, that music is no longer alive....music today has no influence from a led zepplin....now i'm not big into music but the biggest bands, u2, dave mathews, phish, disco biscuits, green day....none have any similiarties to a rolling stones,led zepplin type band
rap is everywhere and in everything right now, you can't watch a commercial without a hip hop vibe to it, rappers all the time get accussed of trying to be to much like tupac
but i will never change the views of ppl, the 60's and 70's are looked at as an amazing time for music, and it might have been even though i don't think so, my question is though, did that music even have a message to affect ppls lifes? maybe at war time but other than that it was just music
Jayhawkk
Legend
You should check it out before knocking it on that level. There were a lot of messages in music during those decades and they were not all anti-war... There was a lot more going on than just Vietnam. Plenty of music revolved around social issues like poverty and racism and sexism. believe it or not, just because you can find it in every type of medium doesn't make it important or full of meaning. Lil Wayne puts out some music I enjoy listening to in the gym but i won't be sitting on my front porch listening to him in 40 years...
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Mulletsoldier
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Oh, jeez. Ugh. Wow, this is ahh, a bit awkward.......
DAdams91982
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For God sakes, Michael Jackson was 1000x more influential than Tupac. I cannot believe this is even a real debate in here.
DAdams91982
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Not really a debate DA, more of trying to open someone's eyes
I have seen the light... errr.. wait! I'm gonna go listen to my Will Smiff CD now. :lol:
Young Gotti
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covers? thats what u bring to this arguement, a few stupid coveres, dave mathews also coveres all along the watchtower, that doesn't mean the band is influenced by jimmy hendrix, ohhh and he also does gin and juice...influenced by snoop doog? no way in hell.....phish also does gin an d juice....and i dunno i've heard some songs from u2, does that album sound like led zepplin in anyway? i didn't think u2 was that hard rock, maybe i'm wrong
i don't know what kinda music dmb is but phish is influenced by jazz/blues music, i'm guessing dave is the same way but they don't have the deep base sounds as much
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
What saddens me deeply is that you are serious. :lol:
HereToStudy
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...AND BACK TO DISCUSSIONS ON THE IPHONE 4...
Young Gotti
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either way i'm done argueing, you like ur music, u can hate rap, its all good....just don't think you can call out someones education or knowledge based on the music they listen to
HereToStudy
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Don't get the Iphone 4 and turn Apple into the next Microsoft and raise the second Anti-Christ!
I can't stand AT&T's plans or I would have owned one by now but the Droids are pretty cool
This is the number one thing that makes me dislike the iPhone. I have the phone and love it. BUT...ATT is terrible. Coverage is so off and on, 3G coverage is specifically what I am talking about.
Young Gotti
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i'm going back to the bomb proof nokia's with old school snake
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
The irony here is that Mullet has pretty good taste in Hip-Hop and knows of a lot of underground artists
Haha, I know.
Ironically enough, I am actually a student of hip-hop's cultural history, and in particular, its place in the lesser known "urban cultural revolution" of the mid-70s and onward which has significantly shaped marketing habits in the sale of popular culture (music, art, and so on), fashion and even the presentation of major sports leagues.
As a minor cliff-note: Tupac Shakur's role in this revolution was minor. He initially emerged as a participant in the more lyrically-sound, underground scene emanating from the Oakland and Bay Area in the late 1980's, which had not yet become heavy-bass driven, nor violent. After his relative lack of success with the Digital Underground, he then became a participant in the gangster-rap movement originating in LA with N.W.A.
In reality, his musical influence on hip hop continues to be non-existent, other than his tonality: his lyrical content was preceded largely by the N.W.A., and his general sound owed itself directly to the scene of the times. For reference's sake, the Notorious B.I.G. had a considerably more significant impact on the style, lyrical content and delivery of modern hip hop than Tupac Shakur.
Young Gotti
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the last paragraph is totally and utterly false, while tupac might of became more agrressive as his career evolved he, while n.w.a was significant with the "gangster movement" they were pretty much putting things in your face and saying it very up front and forward, now tupac might have been talking about the same thing, but did it in a way of explaining why he was saying what he was saying
as far as notorious b.i.g. he's pretty much the exact reason why ppl hate on rap music, his was a stereotypical rapper, guns,money, and drugs, no messages, no substance....thats why rappers like rick ross and young jeezy who follow his mold are bad for rap music and why ppl hate on it
rappers that are more like tupac and have messages and emotions in their music such as old eminem, nas, talib kweli, maino are so much better and should be listened to and put to the forefront
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Which is precisely what the N.W.A. did, and maintained in both their interviews and music. As I said, his lyrical content was largely preceded by the N.W.A., and his style and delivery was heavily borrowed from the Oakland/Bay Area underground scene of the late 1980's. And unfortunately, I cannot comment on why I was "utterly and totally wrong," as you did not address it.
Incorrect, though my focus was admittedly more on style and delivery in this instance. While Tupac, again, largely borrowed from the 'A-A' rhyme scheme with the rhyming word delivered while riding the high-hats and melody, the Notorious B.I.G., pioneered the "triple" and "stutter" styles of delivery. For example:
"from the barre-ta, put-tin all the holes in ya sweat-a,
the money get-ta, motha-fuckas don't have it bett-a"
To say "triple" rhyme scheme means a flow such that each delivery consists of sets of triple-flows, like so: "from the 1. barre 2. ta 3. put 1. tin 2. all the holes 3. in ya 1. sweat 2. a 3." This takes the place of an elongated flow with a rhyming word delivered at the end of the line, on the beat, again pioneered in the Bay Area Scene of the late 1980's.
In contemporary hip hop, the Notorious B.I.G's lasting influence remains on the style, delivery and lyrical content, while Tupac Shakur's impact is little else than cultural nostalgia. it is difficult to find contemporary rappers who do not institute triples in their work while riding the high-hats, and prior to the Notorious B.I.G., that style was not refined nor popularized. For further reference, one can examine the Lords of the Underground for instances of where the Notorious B.I.G., himself borrowed tonality and an imperfect version of this delivery.
Those are the breaks, kidd-o.
Young Gotti
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many ppl may write that way, ur right....but as far as his slow flow, no body raps like that anymore.....on the other hand many rappers put out what they would consider anthems which is scary similar to the bases of hitemup amongst some other tupac songs.....and as far as tupac being influenced by n.w.a.....i really don't see it, like i said they were saying what was happening, which he did but he explained why he felt this way, and n.w.a. showed 1 emotion-angry....tupac has a much wider array of emotions in songs from something like keep your head up, dear mama, and letter to the president....before tupac there was the happy just to get the party started up, and angry gangster rap....he allowed rappers to break free from that and express a wide array of emotions, as seen in many of eminems early cd's or even more recent with cassidy's b.a.r.s cd and even nas's new cd with damian marley
biggie didn't seem to stray far from what was already set in front of him as far as content was concerned, his rhyme style might of been innovative but thats about as far as it went
so we're talking about two different things and i suppose see things in different ways
Zero V
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its all just cRAP anyways.
lol j/k Quite a few songs in the hip-hop genre that I like.
...onto phones. I find ATT a helluvalot better than Verizon. Verizon I had no connection at my house, dropped calls, and a more expensive plan just to not even have as much as I have with my Impression on ATT which has never had connection problems, and is cheaper than Verizon and I have internet/email/text/ unlimited to boot.
I would love to get me a droid, but friggin Verizon. Plus I am trying to cut back on technology and gadgets.
lol j/k Quite a few songs in the hip-hop genre that I like.
...onto phones. I find ATT a helluvalot better than Verizon. Verizon I had no connection at my house, dropped calls, and a more expensive plan just to not even have as much as I have with my Impression on ATT which has never had connection problems, and is cheaper than Verizon and I have internet/email/text/ unlimited to boot.
I would love to get me a droid, but friggin Verizon. Plus I am trying to cut back on technology and gadgets.
HereToStudy
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It all comes down to area. In chicago, Att is terrible and Verizon has it covered like a condom. But the iPhone keeps me from making the switch.
votum
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From Webster's
INFLUENCE
RESEMBLE
Gotti, you are mis-understanding these two I think. I bet Tupac was influenced by Pink Floyd...if he listened to them, and drew any inspiration what so ever, that counts as influence. Influence and resemblance are two completely different terms, and something does not have to hav resemblance to something else to have been influenced by it.
For example:
I would bet my left nut that 99% of modern rock artists had a major influence from Metallica.
I would bet both of my nuts that 99% of modern rock doesn't resemble Metallica.
Different stuff mate!
INFLUENCE
RESEMBLE
Gotti, you are mis-understanding these two I think. I bet Tupac was influenced by Pink Floyd...if he listened to them, and drew any inspiration what so ever, that counts as influence. Influence and resemblance are two completely different terms, and something does not have to hav resemblance to something else to have been influenced by it.
For example:
I would bet my left nut that 99% of modern rock artists had a major influence from Metallica.
I would bet both of my nuts that 99% of modern rock doesn't resemble Metallica.
Different stuff mate!
bradleywiens
Active member
Back on topic, I finally ordered my iPhone this morning. Shipping July 14th. Guess I can wait that long.
HereToStudy
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Lucky SOB
Young Gotti
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i haven't actually really looked into this...besides the preorders...when do these things actually hit store shelfs?