Lovasa (omega 3 acid ethyl esters)

[madds87]

I know alot of people are against pharmaceuticals and what not, and more for supplementation. But i was wondering what yall thought about this. Its a "medicine" and is used for lowering tryglicerides. But its one gram per pill and really concentrated. Plus you can trust it cause its FDA approved if that means anything to you. haha. Soooo yeah i know with regular fish oil pills everything it says it is isnt always true..... Soooo im taking it right now just to see the difference. The only problem is the bad stinky gas! yikes! but the stuff is expensive if you dont have insurance. Its like 200$ but i have insurance so i only payed 30$

 

[Zero V]

I know alot of people are against pharmaceuticals and what not, and more for supplementation. But i was wondering what yall thought about this. Its a "medicine" and is used for lowering tryglicerides. But its one gram per pill and really concentrated. Plus you can trust it cause its FDA approved if that means anything to you. haha. Soooo yeah i know with regular fish oil pills everything it says it is isnt always true..... Soooo im taking it right now just to see the difference. The only problem is the bad stinky gas! yikes! but the stuff is expensive if you dont have insurance. Its like 200$ but i have insurance so i only payed 30$

I see no purpose in a 200$ prescription of fish oil...Just a way to rip off the supplement industry for what it has been doing, and overcharging for it. Difference in quality? Bleh, its fish oil... We are not talking morphine or Clomid or something where quality from a lab compared to outside of lab creation can really make a difference.

 

[madds87]

I see no purpose in a 200$ prescription of fish oil...Just a way to rip off the supplement industry for what it has been doing, and overcharging for it. Difference in quality? Bleh, its fish oil... We are not talking morphine or Clomid or something where quality from a lab compared to outside of lab creation can really make a difference.

Well if you have insurance you only pay 30$ which is not that bad consiering buying the high quality fish oil that i normally do. which will prob be around that price. Comparing fishoil to the walmart brand to a more expensive product. Would be more concentrated. quality would be more worth it. When you buy cheap fishoil you barely get the good stuff. more fillers than anything. If you took a ton of the cheap stuff you might get enough but were talking a ton of pills like 30 er something. There is a huge difference to cheap fishoil and expensive fishoil.

 

[sanchezgreg18]

you do realize that you can buy omega 3 ethyl ester fish oil at any pharmacy as a supplement right?

MEG-3 ... I got four bottles for 15 dollars, 120 caps each. b1g1 deal

 

[madds87]

Yes but this a supplement correct? im talking pharmaceutical omega 3 ethyl ester.

 

[madds87]

With it being pharmaceutical it runs through more tests and standards more so than supplements.

 

[Andy G]

There is a large class action law suit going on now regarding deadly impurities involving fish oil supps, of course GNC was one of em, along with some other large chain pharmacy's. PCB's will kill you, that's what was found in their brands. Lovasa is pure, no fillers, you know what you're getting for a change. Peace of mind is worth $30 if someone has the insurance, and a willing Dr. to write the script.

 

[sanchezgreg18]

Is fish oil worth 30 dollars a month just because its prescription? hell no you really believe all the garbage that is funded by big pharma to make you believe its better than a supplement fish oil so that you spend money on their fish oil RX and the doctor gets kick back for prescribing it. Ill spend that thirty dollars on food . and fwiw theres already a lengthy thread on this topic a few months ago


Myth #4: Omega-3 fish oils have contaminants such as PCBs and mercury found in fish.

Fact: Most experts agree that because of the purification process they undergo, fish oil supplements or foods enriched with fish oils provide a much safer way to get adequate amounts of Omega-3 EPA/DHA than eating fish 5-7 times per week. MEG-3® is a pure, naturally sourced, and safe product. Any impurities that may be present within the crude fish oil used to make MEG-3® oils, such as PCBs, mercury, and dioxins, are reduced by our processing. In fact, MEG-3® oils conform to worldwide quality and purity standards, including those established by the European Commission, Norwegian Food Safety Authority, Health Canada, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

 

[Zero V]

With it being pharmaceutical it runs through more tests and standards more so than supplements.

I would trust Big Pharma in an equivalent amount in an inversely proportional relation to the distance I could stand form a big pharma CEO and not strangle him to death...



There are some high quality supplement companies. This "purest, bestest, awesomest, safestest!" american bullcrap system is why everone is cowering behind the "terrorist" threat and have handed over our rights for "protection". You will be giving pharma companies 200 bucks for what likely amounts to 3 bucks worth of work, just to give them overpaid salaries. No your only paying, but your insurance is paying the rest. Raising insurance costs, and letting pharmaceutical companies get their way and keep going down this road.



I dont give a damn, unless someone is selling me straight poison and is gona lie about it, mistakes happen.

HERE is a look into the future dammit.

Fish oil is sold by pharma
Creatine is sold by pharma
multivitamins are sold by pharma

Fish oil is banned...due to contamination risks
Creatine is banned...due to impurities
Multivatamisn are banned due to improper dosing and contamination


GTFO of here with the "its safer" crap, thats why America is Fuc*ed up in the first place now.


I am so pissed about this crap, the psychological downfall and domino effect of our society is so stupid.

EVERY little action, if done by millions of baboons, equates to something....Why do you think the bank actually charges some things to the .oo cent digit. Because a tenth of a pennty times 5.2 million dollars, on a daily basis IS A LOT OF MONEY.

Same situation, look at the macro, Fk the micro.

Too easily to people follow crap. I hate television, I hate the news, I hate our school system, I hate the government, I hate everything because its all FUBAR and cannot return to being legit as long this perverse generation continues to do what it does, and teaches the next generation to be even more incompetent and to rely on the government for safety.

/End Rant

 

[askem]

I would trust Big Pharma in an equivalent amount in an inversely proportional relation to the distance I could stand form a big pharma CEO and not strangle him to death...



There are some high quality supplement companies. This "purest, bestest, awesomest, safestest!" american bullcrap system is why everone is cowering behind the "terrorist" threat and have handed over our rights for "protection". You will be giving pharma companies 200 bucks for what likely amounts to 3 bucks worth of work, just to give them overpaid salaries. No your only paying, but your insurance is paying the rest. Raising insurance costs, and letting pharmaceutical companies get their way and keep going down this road.



I dont give a damn, unless someone is selling me straight poison and is gona lie about it, mistakes happen.

HERE is a look into the future dammit.

Fish oil is sold by pharma
Creatine is sold by pharma
multivitamins are sold by pharma

Fish oil is banned...due to contamination risks
Creatine is banned...due to impurities
Multivatamisn are banned due to improper dosing and contamination


GTFO of here with the "its safer" crap, thats why America is Fuc*ed up in the first place now.


I am so pissed about this crap, the psychological downfall and domino effect of our society is so stupid.

EVERY little action, if done by millions of baboons, equates to something....Why do you think the bank actually charges some things to the .oo cent digit. Because a tenth of a pennty times 5.2 million dollars, on a daily basis IS A LOT OF MONEY.

Same situation, look at the macro, Fk the micro.

Too easily to people follow crap. I hate television, I hate the news, I hate our school system, I hate the government, I hate everything because its all FUBAR and cannot return to being legit as long this perverse generation continues to do what it does, and teaches the next generation to be even more incompetent and to rely on the government for safety.

/End Rant

This. I cant' help but laugh when I see the commercials to that Lovasa on tv. Big pharma is always trying to make supp companies look bad and then turn around and sell the product for 10 times the cost.

 

[madds87]

There is a large class action law suit going on now regarding deadly impurities involving fish oil supps, of course GNC was one of em, along with some other large chain pharmacy's. PCB's will kill you, that's what was found in their brands. Lovasa is pure, no fillers, you know what you're getting for a change. Peace of mind is worth $30 if someone has the insurance, and a willing Dr. to write the script.

Thank yah and i agree.

 

[madds87]

I would trust Big Pharma in an equivalent amount in an inversely proportional relation to the distance I could stand form a big pharma CEO and not strangle him to death...



There are some high quality supplement companies. This "purest, bestest, awesomest, safestest!" american bullcrap system is why everone is cowering behind the "terrorist" threat and have handed over our rights for "protection". You will be giving pharma companies 200 bucks for what likely amounts to 3 bucks worth of work, just to give them overpaid salaries. No your only paying, but your insurance is paying the rest. Raising insurance costs, and letting pharmaceutical companies get their way and keep going down this road.



I dont give a damn, unless someone is selling me straight poison and is gona lie about it, mistakes happen.

HERE is a look into the future dammit.

Fish oil is sold by pharma
Creatine is sold by pharma
multivitamins are sold by pharma

Fish oil is banned...due to contamination risks
Creatine is banned...due to impurities
Multivatamisn are banned due to improper dosing and contamination


GTFO of here with the "its safer" crap, thats why America is Fuc*ed up in the first place now.


I am so pissed about this crap, the psychological downfall and domino effect of our society is so stupid.

EVERY little action, if done by millions of baboons, equates to something....Why do you think the bank actually charges some things to the .oo cent digit. Because a tenth of a pennty times 5.2 million dollars, on a daily basis IS A LOT OF MONEY.

Same situation, look at the macro, Fk the micro.

Too easily to people follow crap. I hate television, I hate the news, I hate our school system, I hate the government, I hate everything because its all FUBAR and cannot return to being legit as long this perverse generation continues to do what it does, and teaches the next generation to be even more incompetent and to rely on the government for safety.

/End Rant

True there are some things that i will agree with. But supplement companies are not entirely "true" either. if you have not done your research you could buy complete crap. Now i understand your ranting. And i do not agree with alot of government policies and actions. Especially this year! YIKES! But the government should have some control over people being poisoned and have greedy people that are trying to rip off the american people completely, be repremanded. Now i am also not saying that i agree with what the gov is doing now.
But without the government some things would not be better. for instance in the past history, i cant remember what year, but food was dangerous and had all sorts of stuff in meat that were to make the meat prettier or bigger lets say. If the government would not have stepped in we would still prob have the same problem. I beleive in a little bit of government to kick the @$$holes's butt. For stuff that is not completely out of our hands but almost.
Anyway.... This is why i trust buying a fish oil that i know is pure. With it being pharma it is somewhat going through some standards. The choices are not great and pharma can be deceiving sometimes but with the choices at hand i feel as though this would be the best choice.
And wih all that said God Bless America. Im still an American even if there are things that are going on that i dont agree with. does not mean the country is complete crap. We were number one for a very long time and we still can be.

:usa:

 

[matthew76]

I grabbed a bottle for $5; my insurance is great. Why did I get it? Because I have that right.

 

[Killerkanadia]

I grabbed a bottle for $5; my insurance is great. Why did I get it? Because I have that right.

Because it's cheaper than regular fish oil

 

[matthew76]

Because it's cheaper than regular fish oil

And tested!

 

[madds87]

Wow i thought mine was good.......... lol

 

[Flaw]

I am so pissed about this crap, the psychological downfall and domino effect of our society is so stupid.

EVERY little action, if done by millions of baboons, equates to something....Why do you think the bank actually charges some things to the .oo cent digit. Because a tenth of a pennty times 5.2 million dollars, on a daily basis IS A LOT OF MONEY.

Same situation, look at the macro, Fk the micro.

Too easily to people follow crap. I hate television, I hate the news, I hate our school system, I hate the government, I hate everything because its all FUBAR and cannot return to being legit as long this perverse generation continues to do what it does, and teaches the next generation to be even more incompetent and to rely on the government for safety.

/End Rant

Amen brotha! As a society we don't get smarter we get dumber and the majority believe somehow we are advancing because TV, Books, or even science is telling them that we are but no we are our own worst enemy and put a road block in any forward movement we could possibly make. We have been doing this since the beginning and it won't stop anytime soon. Look at the story of drugs in general. All the major illegal drugs like cocaine, heroin, ampthetamines had their uses until people started blaming them for crazy things which led the government to step in and eventually make them illegal. I forsee the same things happening on a larger scale in the supplement industry. I mean it already has begun but soon they will need little to no evidence to take away our supplements. Put your trust in god brother, not the governments!

On topic.. BIG PHARMA is playing that drug dealer who gets the stuff straight from the source. The stuff that's better then anything you can get anywhere else. (SO HE SAYS) I'm sorry but I don't trust Big Pharma that much.

 

[madds87]

Amen brotha! As a society we don't get smarter we get dumber and the majority believe somehow we are advancing because TV, Books, or even science is telling them that we are but no we are our own worst enemy and put a road block in any forward movement we could possibly make. We have been doing this since the beginning and it won't stop anytime soon. Look at the story of drugs in general. All the major illegal drugs like cocaine, heroin, ampthetamines had their uses until people started blaming them for crazy things which led the government to step in and eventually make them illegal. I forsee the same things happening on a larger scale in the supplement industry. I mean it already has begun but soon they will need little to no evidence to take away our supplements. Put your trust in god brother, not the governments!

On topic.. BIG PHARMA is playing that drug dealer who gets the stuff straight from the source. The stuff that's better then anything you can get anywhere else. (SO HE SAYS) I'm sorry but I don't trust Big Pharma that much.

Yes big pharma is hard to trust sometimes. But thanks for the pian pills! :lol:
Anywho, i agree with, on how the pharma is trying to "butt out competition". I think they should try to spar with competition. Which would be fine in my books. I trust alot of companies like anabolic innovations etc. But maybe this can span a new kind of trust worthy supplement industries, and quit making them be so suspicious. Maybe one day, which is wishfull thinking, but maybe one day we could actually trust what the supplement company says..... yeah i said it.:bigeyes:..... but Like i said i beleive in little government not big government. What they are doing now is rediculous!
You also have to think about how the pharmaceutical companies have helped us too fellas. Its not ALL bad. :sad3:

 

[SilentBob187]

Yes big pharma is hard to trust sometimes...You also have to think about how the pharmaceutical companies have helped us too fellas. Its not ALL bad. :sad3:

It is bad when they want it ALL.

 

[gamer2be08]

I think lovasa is a rip.. You can get a decent fishoil for a decent price OTC, from walmart or anywhere.. Most brands usually have the same amount of DHA and whatever in their product anyways...

 

[Zero V]

I dont questions big pharmas purity in product, but in ethics.

They are useless greedy bastards. If they come out with 30 buck test my doc will give to me on a whim, THEN maybe, just maybe I will give them some credit

But considering I am going to a doc about ADD, and to get my test levels checked (I realized I really have no control in my life in the sense I should, I am usually a slave to my emotions, which sometimes swing real weird....look at some of my older posts ) and will possibly be on something like adderall or whatever they give ADD people.

So I am thankful for that much

But outside of necessary medical items, leave supplements alone. I dont want supplement companies dealing out morphine or speed, that we can leave to pharma...but fish oil, you know where this is going..

 

[madds87]

I dont questions big pharmas purity in product, but in ethics.

They are useless greedy bastards. If they come out with 30 buck test my doc will give to me on a whim, THEN maybe, just maybe I will give them some credit

But considering I am going to a doc about ADD, and to get my test levels checked (I realized I really have no control in my life in the sense I should, I am usually a slave to my emotions, which sometimes swing real weird....look at some of my older posts ) and will possibly be on something like adderall or whatever they give ADD people.

So I am thankful for that much

But outside of necessary medical items, leave supplements alone. I dont want supplement companies dealing out morphine or speed, that we can leave to pharma...but fish oil, you know where this is going..

I gotcha dog. I understand what you mean. I also agree with the fact that its a new thing of "they cant help it thats how they are" thing.... Unless your completely retarded.........

 

[strategicmove]

There is absolutely no justification for selling fish oil for $200. This is criminal and the managers of that company should be escorted to jail! This is a prime example of how resources are wasted and inefficiencies supported in the American health-insurance industry.
By far the best fish-oil product in the world today, without exception, is Llife Extension's prescription-grade Super Omega-3 EPA/DHA with Sesame Lignans & Olive Fruit Extract. Non-members can get a 40-day supply for $32; and members for only $21. It is the only fish-oil supplement I use. It is the only fish-oil supplement I know that is approved by the International Fish Oil Society (IFOS), due to its incredibly pure prescription-grade quality manufactured to the most exacting quality standards.
In comparison, Lovasa is a rip-off, and reminds me of Big-Pharma's move to get the vitamin B analogs, Pyridoxamine and Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate, classified from supplements to drugs so they can get them prescribed for magnitudes of their current low prices. Other examples abound.
Prescription fish oil for $200! I can't believe this! :frustrate:

 

[Zero V]

There is absolutely no justification for selling fish oil for $200. This is criminal and the managers of that company should be escorted to jail! This is a prime example of how resources are wasted and inefficiencies supported in the American health-insurance industry.
By far the best fish-oil product in the world today, without exception, is Llife Extension's prescription-grade Super Omega-3 EPA/DHA with Sesame Lignans & Olive Fruit Extract. Non-members can get a 40-day supply for $32; and members for only $21. It is the only fish-oil supplement I use. It is the only fish-oil supplement I know that is approved by the International Fish Oil Society (IFOS), due to its incredibly pure prescription-grade quality manufactured to the most exacting quality standards.
In comparison, Lovasa is a rip-off, and reminds me of Big-Pharma's move to get the vitamin B analogs, Pyridoxamine and Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate, classified from supplements to drugs so they can get them prescribed for magnitudes of their current low prices. Other examples abound.
Prescription fish oil for $200! I can't believe this! :frustrate:

Wait did they actually get P-5-P changed over???!?!?!

If so I want links to the company and men who are responsible...I am gona hound them until the day they die...then I wont have to worry about them, because greedy bastards like them hopefully end up in the hot place...

 

[strategicmove]

Wait did they actually get P-5-P changed over???!?!?!
...

The company seeking to get pyridoxamine banned as a supplement (and approved as a drug) is currently conducting a Phase IIb study on diabetic patients with kidney disease. Planned completion date of the study is August 2010. See: Invalid Link Removed
If the study produces a successful clinical outcome, the results will be submitted to the FDA for a "fast track approval". Thereafter, it might take the FDA a few years to grant pyridoxamine "drug" status. Incredible!

 

[madds87]

There is absolutely no justification for selling fish oil for $200. This is criminal and the managers of that company should be escorted to jail! This is a prime example of how resources are wasted and inefficiencies supported in the American health-insurance industry.
By far the best fish-oil product in the world today, without exception, is Llife Extension's prescription-grade Super Omega-3 EPA/DHA with Sesame Lignans & Olive Fruit Extract. Non-members can get a 40-day supply for $32; and members for only $21. It is the only fish-oil supplement I use. It is the only fish-oil supplement I know that is approved by the International Fish Oil Society (IFOS), due to its incredibly pure prescription-grade quality manufactured to the most exacting quality standards.
In comparison, Lovasa is a rip-off, and reminds me of Big-Pharma's move to get the vitamin B analogs, Pyridoxamine and Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate, classified from supplements to drugs so they can get them prescribed for magnitudes of their current low prices. Other examples abound.
Prescription fish oil for $200! I can't believe this! :frustrate:

You mind sending me the link to the fish oil you take?

 

[strategicmove]

You mind sending me the link to the fish oil you take?

Links to non-sponsor supplement websites are not allowed here. Simply Google "Super Omega-3 EPA/DHA with Sesame Lignans & Olive Fruit Extract" by the Life Extension Foundation. It is unmatched.

 

[Zero V]

The company seeking to get pyridoxamine banned as a supplement (and approved as a drug) is currently conducting a Phase IIb study on diabetic patients with kidney disease. Planned completion date of the study is August 2010. See: Invalid Link Removed
If the study produces a successful clinical outcome, the results will be submitted to the FDA for a "fast track approval". Thereafter, it might take the FDA a few years to grant pyridoxamine "drug" status. Incredible!

Guess at that time I will be "illegally" ordering me some vitamin B6......wow...shameful lol

 

[Flaw]

You also have to think about how the pharmaceutical companies have helped us too fellas. Its not ALL bad. :sad3:

Well.. That statement is all relative. Let none of us be fooled, BIG PHARMA is concerned about MONEY # 1. GREED runs the train and it's got endless amounts of this fuel. When a pharmaceutal company goes on board with the FDA the #1 concern is will the product work well enough so that the consumer can consume it many times or for a long period of time so that we can profit on it or not. So of course it has to be somewhat safe so that they could profit. But why do you think there's been so many recalls and lawsuits over drugs in the past decades? It's because they either test lightly or ignore risks that come along with it. The margin of error which includes a few lawsuits and a some milliion dollars outweighs the billions they could make on it. It's more then science, it's sales. There's such promising research out there that gets shut down or ignored or underfunded... my hunch is because if you find something that works too well they won't profit on it eventually. What's the point in that? If greed wasn't in the element and everyone worked together I truly believe we would have cures for many illnesses but because of who we are as humans, we will never allow ourselves to get there.

 

[Zero V]

Well.. That statement is all relative. Let none of us be fooled, BIG PHARMA is concerned about MONEY # 1. GREED runs the train and it's got endless amounts of this fuel. When a pharmaceutal company goes on board with the FDA the #1 concern is will the product work well enough so that the consumer can consume it many times or for a long period of time so that we can profit on it or not. So of course it has to be somewhat safe so that they could profit. But why do you think there's been so many recalls and lawsuits over drugs in the past decades? It's because they either test lightly or ignore risks that come along with it. The margin of error which includes a few lawsuits and a some milliion dollars outweighs the billions they could make on it. It's more then science, it's sales. There's such promising research out there that gets shut down or ignored or underfunded... my hunch is because if you find something that works too well they won't profit on it eventually. What's the point in that? If greed wasn't in the element and everyone worked together I truly believe we would have cures for many illnesses but because of who we are as humans, we will never allow ourselves to get there.

Pure simple rules of logic. Why would drug companies want to create cures, when cures mean they dont make billions by sailing toxins passed off as medical drugs that are almost if not more damaging than the diseases themselves but allow people to grip ahold of life a little bit longer before dieing...

I believe some diseases are cured, but they wont be released until last minute when the drug for that disease will no longer fetch money.

Think of the sheer volume of money and hours put into biological and chemical research for our bodies....the sheer mass of it, and tell me they dont know more than they put out...

 

[Killerkanadia]

"cures" sell for a lot of money.

 

[Flaw]

Think of the sheer volume of money and hours put into biological and chemical research for our bodies....the sheer mass of it, and tell me they dont know more than they put out...

This is what probably boils my blood more then anything. You have all these people dieing, sick and poor and all this money thrown in the fire (so to speak) just to find a way to make more money. It's gambling but if you really look at it, your gambling with peoples lives.

"But they that are minded to be rich fall into a temptation and a snare and many foolish and hurtful lusts, such as drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil"- 1 tim 6:9,10

 

[madds87]

Well.. That statement is all relative. Let none of us be fooled, BIG PHARMA is concerned about MONEY # 1. GREED runs the train and it's got endless amounts of this fuel. When a pharmaceutal company goes on board with the FDA the #1 concern is will the product work well enough so that the consumer can consume it many times or for a long period of time so that we can profit on it or not. So of course it has to be somewhat safe so that they could profit. But why do you think there's been so many recalls and lawsuits over drugs in the past decades? It's because they either test lightly or ignore risks that come along with it. The margin of error which includes a few lawsuits and a some milliion dollars outweighs the billions they could make on it. It's more then science, it's sales. There's such promising research out there that gets shut down or ignored or underfunded... my hunch is because if you find something that works too well they won't profit on it eventually. What's the point in that? If greed wasn't in the element and everyone worked together I truly believe we would have cures for many illnesses but because of who we are as humans, we will never allow ourselves to get there.

Wow very interesting view. And good points. I have never really thought of it that way. But one thing on how you said "they won't make the product if they can't make any money for a long period of time." What about antibiotics? They are normally given out in short lengths. But with the majority of medicine I can understand where you came up with that.
Now for someone that will be on medicine for the rest of their lives. Their really is not another allternitive. Cept for me I was lucky and with trial and error was able to go into remission on supplements without medicine. Maybe if they are expanding into supplements it could help the docters understand more on to take what supplements instead of just medicine.

 

[madds87]

Pure simple rules of logic. Why would drug companies want to create cures, when cures mean they dont make billions by sailing toxins passed off as medical drugs that are almost if not more damaging than the diseases themselves but allow people to grip ahold of life a little bit longer before dieing...

I believe some diseases are cured, but they wont be released until last minute when the drug for that disease will no longer fetch money.

Think of the sheer volume of money and hours put into biological and chemical research for our bodies....the sheer mass of it, and tell me they dont know more than they put out...

I don't know about that.... it could be that way but I don't want to believe it. I mean what if there family members died of some disease just because they wanted to not mess up there profit.

 

[Flaw]

Wow very interesting view. And good points. I have never really thought of it that way. But one thing on how you said "they won't make the product if they can't make any money for a long period of time." What about antibiotics? They are normally given out in short lengths. But with the majority of medicine I can understand where you came up with that.
Now for someone that will be on medicine for the rest of their lives. Their really is not another allternitive. Cept for me I was lucky and with trial and error was able to go into remission on supplements without medicine. Maybe if they are expanding into supplements it could help the docters understand more on to take what supplements instead of just medicine.

Antibiotics is simple. They over prescribe them. That's how they sell them. Not till recently have Doctors been coming forward saying that many General Pracitioners will give you antibiotics for many cases that don't require them.

Unfortunately the system trains Doctors to use pharms. That's just how it's set up to be and it's not going to change anytime soon. Same as the system is set up for insurance. You don't have insurance and you get treated like when AIDS broke out and no one wanted to touch you cause they thought they'd get it. Some General P's are more educated on nutrition then others but a lot will just reccommend the small stuff. I've had a lot of experience giving exercise and nutritional counseling to a number of Dr's and they didn't know squat. That's what dietitions and nutritionists are for. They are experts on nutrition and supplements. Not your average GP.

 

[Zero V]

I don't know about that.... it could be that way but I don't want to believe it. I mean what if there family members died of some disease just because they wanted to not mess up there profit.

You havent met enough Americans involved in business to find out how seriously disgusting and cutthroat they really are. Some of the sick bastards would watch their own mother die if it got them a mere 20 grand extra...

I have met people, that I can find no reason for their continued existence...which is why when a revolutionary war breaks out, I'm going chicken huntin :sgrin: