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Fall/winter bulk!

gamer2be08

gamer2be08

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Alright, so im saving up some cash for a bulk cycle later in the year, and I like to get everything ready months ahead of time. Cycle will consist of:

Test-e: 500mg per wk weeks 1-12
Dbol: 30mg ED 10mg morning and 20 prewkout weeks 1-4
Epistane:30/30/40/40 weeks 10-14 If I have the money

The test and dbol will be human grade.

Edit: Letro will be run 1.25mg twice a week. Half a letro pill the night of each pinning. Will halt letro usage once I start epistane as that compound is already anti estrogenic..

PCT:
Nolva:40/20/20/20/10
Clomid:100/75/50/50

The PCT will be human grade.

Probably add some formestane starting week 4 of PCT and run for 4 weeks at a moderate dose. I know that is a high clomid dosage, but I experience little sides from 100mg.

Creatine and fishoil will be ran throughout cycle and PCT.
Liver care throughout cycle and PCT- probably just milk thistle.

Calories will be around 4500 per day. Approx. 250g protein per day.
Will get 8 hours sleep each night.
 
I cant use pokes! So im stuck with orals- but looks GOOD!
 
Change of plans because I already know im prone to gyno, im going to run letro at 1.25mg twice a week. Plus its a lot cheaper on my wallet.
 
Well, I found M1T for under 30 bucks from the UK and will ship to US for only 5.95.. Could M1T be used as a good hardener at the end of my cycle?
 
The cycle looks good. Diet is crazy, can you handle that many carbs, 4500 cals with only 250g of protein? If you can then good for you, to me protein being only 22% of calories is waaay too low for me thats too many carbs and fats. But i'm sure you know what works for you just wanted to point that out.
 
UnrealMachine said:
The cycle looks good. Diet is crazy, can you handle that many carbs, 4500 cals with only 250g of protein? If you can then good for you, to me protein being only 22% of calories is waaay too low for me thats too many carbs and fats. But i'm sure you know what works for you just wanted to point that out.
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I am a carb whore!!! Im getting 130grams protein from a gallon of milk. 2 shakes=40 grams. My pasta has about 10 grams. I usually have steak everyday, so thats about 40-50 grams. I usually have another meat in there, like chicken or beef for dinner with a couple carb sources usually getting about 30-40 grams protein. So, all in all, im probably getting around 270grams of proteins a day give or take few grams. A lot of fat and carbs do come from the milk.
 
gamer2be08 said:
I am a carb whore!!! Im getting 130grams protein from a gallon of milk. 2 shakes=40 grams. My pasta has about 10 grams. I usually have steak everyday, so thats about 40-50 grams. I usually have another meat in there, like chicken or beef for dinner with a couple carb sources usually getting about 30-40 grams protein. So, all in all, im probably getting around 270grams of proteins a day give or take few grams. A lot of fat and carbs do come from the milk.
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you look pretty lean too... you always eat like that? nothing makes me fat dairy does.
 
Really think letro is overkill, try arimidex like e3d if needed at .5mg.

also as expressed before I think your PCT is way overkill...

Also some HcG is probably needed for your cycle length, started halfway through.
 
deadaim said:
Really think letro is overkill, try arimidex like e3d if needed at .5mg.

also as expressed before I think your PCT is way overkill...

Also some HcG is probably needed for your cycle length, started halfway through.
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Im not gonna touch HCG for any cycle under 14 weeks. I just dont think its necessary because I know how fast/well I can recover without it.. And im using letro because im gyno prone, and I have oh so slight gyno now, so slight, im not even sure if it is gyno...
 
gamer2be08 said:
Im not gonna touch HCG for any cycle under 14 weeks. I just dont think its necessary because I know how fast/well I can recover without it.. And im using letro because im gyno prone, and I have oh so slight gyno now, so slight, im not even sure if it is gyno...
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im with you here, alot of people here swear by hcg every cycle... i really dont think its neccessary. atleast not for me.
 
gamer2be08 said:
I dont feel like shelling out another 80 bucks lol, I dont mind the extra pinnings... And I know it isnt necessary for this cycle.
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oh ya true, I suppose the only time when its really "needed" is tren / decca.
 
GeekPoop said:
oh ya true, I suppose the only time when its really "needed" is tren / decca.
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I think 14 week cycle would also benefit from the HcG but yes not necessary.

Also if you decide to run letro as your AI, you will need to check your lipids checked out 100%.
 
deadaim said:
I think 14 week cycle would also benefit from the HcG but yes not necessary.

Also if you decide to run letro as your AI, you will need to check your lipids checked out 100%.
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I have had my lipids checked post m-drol, they were bad at first, but corrected in due time..
 
gamer2be08 said:
I am uber excited to run dbol, hopefully will be a better experience tha m-drol, which did jack **** for me..
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mdrol is a stronger compound then dbol hands down, not even close.
mdrol = tren (injectible) as far as sides/gains go IMO
 
GLHF said:
mdrol is a stronger compound then dbol hands down, not even close.
mdrol = tren (injectible) as far as sides/gains go IMO
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but some people havent responded well from SD, not many but some like gamer... i think everyone grows from dbol. and with sd more is not always better... dbol, on the other hand, more is better, you can run pretty high doses of it and for longer periods like 6-7 wks.

sd is great no doubt about it but nothing is like tren imo, atleast for me.
 
I read about a lot of people not responding to Mdrol. But not so many not responding to other SD clones. Just sayin'. Chances are since the Dbol is HG it'll be totally legit. Don't think i've ever heard of a dbol nonresponder. Just bunk dbol.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I read about a lot of people not responding to Mdrol. But not so many not responding to other SD clones. Just sayin'. Chances are since the Dbol is HG it'll be totally legit. Don't think i've ever heard of a dbol nonresponder. Just bunk dbol.
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Its british dispensary dbol, heard its legit and I trust the source.
 
Distilled Water said:
I'd get some HCG and drop the epistane, epistane was garbage for me. Did nothing at all @ 6 weeks and up to 60mg/day. Im not the only one who didn't get gains form it either.

Opt for something like OT, great hardener with strength and it should run you about the same as epistane.
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^^ This. And bro I don't know if you can afford it or not but if you're prone to gyno I would look into some proviron... I read alot on this and other boards, and it seems to be alot more popular on other boards for some reason. yes its methylated but from what i understand its great as an anti-gyno. it's also synergistic with test bc it frees up SHBG and it gives you all of DHT's benefits like mood/libido etc. When I run my first cycle of high dose test with aromatizing orals like Dbol I am def. going to run proviron myself. Which by the way will be this fall/winter as well Test E/Deca/Dbol maybe some tren not sure yet
 
GnastyMcNasty said:
^^ This. And bro I don't know if you can afford it or not but if you're prone to gyno I would look into some proviron... I read alot on this and other boards, and it seems to be alot more popular on other boards for some reason. yes its methylated but from what i understand its great as an anti-gyno. it's also synergistic with test bc it frees up SHBG and it gives you all of DHT's benefits like mood/libido etc. When I run my first cycle of high dose test with aromatizing orals like Dbol I am def. going to run proviron myself. Which by the way will be this fall/winter as well Test E/Deca/Dbol maybe some tren not sure yet
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Proviron is a 1-methyl, making its toxicity negligible.
 
gator r u a mod at anyother boards.. ur a knowledgable man.. and i feel like u moderate at least one other board i reside on
 
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