n8te
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12 days? why?
The craziest cycles youve ever ran?
- Thread starter GLHF
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12 days? why?
EasyEJL
Never enough
Read through Author L Rea's Building the Perfect Beast. its effective.
n8te
Well-known member
will do.:fing02:
HumpTheCook
Banned
my strength gains were good not insain because i was cutting up hard during the whole thing. i actually dropped a fair amount of weight during this cycle. this was a few years ago when i was bigger than today and stepping on stage. i was a pin cushin, rotating glutes, quads, calves, delts, bi's, tri's, pecs and traps.
HumpTheCook
Banned
i believe i was taking 40mg orally. this was a precomp cycle and i got down to the 4% range for a couple days. it was miserable, the halo messed with my head BAD! i couldnt sleep, i could barely work, i just sat there mad at the world for no good reason. my gf stopped coming over while i was on the halo. i wouldnt do it unless i was going to get on stage again which i dont see happening.
unc21
Member
man sounds like fun! Lol
highest I ever ran halo was 20mgs with prop/tren/mast. Loved it and didn't get the sides you mentioned. I'll be sure to keep it there if I run it again
HumpTheCook
Banned
dude the craziest partwas how vascular and how full of myself i got. i remember finally giving in to my gf's demands for sex. it was the last thing in the world i wanted to do but i fidured after like a month of no sex i owed her. (20 wks of tren and hard diets will do this to you), i was just lying there trying to stay atleast chubby when i realized i wasnt paying any attention to her, i was just flexing my arms over and over checking out my veins haha and that was turning me on hahaha
EasyEJL
Never enough
No, its a short high dose cycle. there is probably some in system out to a month. Author L Rea explains it really well in his book. There are a lot of bodily processes that take time to respond trying to bring your body back into homeostasis, and this sort of thing can help short circuit and work around those.
Is this a smart idea for everyone? no, not at all. but if you aren't prone to sides or gyno at all, have no blood pressure issues, etc. it may not be too bad. This dosing was way higher than necessary too, half that would still have worked about as well.
Jasen
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ok u need to explain HUH why did u not **** ur girl? fight?
Jasen
Well-known member
so its similar to a four five week cycle of sd but instead ur using inject test? im stil little confused sorry
HumpTheCook
Banned
haha sorry... the tren KILLED my sex drive. then the halotestin just made me miserable. so i didnt **** my chick for like a month and when i finally did i just laid there on my back paying no attention to her cause all i could look at was how vascular my arms were haha. dude i was a miserable prick for that cycle.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Well, thats sort of like saying driving a corvette on RTE 10 is like driving a Lotus on the Autobahn. Sure its both vehicles moving fast on highways but so different that you really can't compare. Part of why he came up with the idea is that it allowed for easier recovery because you were only suppressed a short while. But there are other pluses and minuses to it, how it affects estrogen, how it affects insulin resistance, etc that are different than spreading the same amount of test over 12 weeks.
EasyEJL
Never enough
If you know what you are doing sure, but then if you know what you are doing then all your gains are keepable.
unc21
Member
lol!!! Thats funny sh1t right there!
GLHF
Well-known member
gonna run soon this:
test e 500mg/week 10weeks
bold 400mg/week 10weeks
clen week on week off 5 pulses
cutting
10-16 test e 750mg/week
10-16 dbol 40/50/50/50/50/60?
bulking
PCT
carb cycling while cutting and bulking. while cutting <30g carbs/day for 4 days, 5th day have a 200g carb meal, 6th day repeat. while bulking ~400g carbs/day for 5-6days, with 1-2days on low carbs. this way i keep carbs very anabolic to my body. after all, carbs ARE the most anabolic thing.
plus not trying to sound like a prick, but please reps. only reason i want them is so people can recognize that im a contributing member in 1sec.
test e 500mg/week 10weeks
bold 400mg/week 10weeks
clen week on week off 5 pulses
cutting
10-16 test e 750mg/week
10-16 dbol 40/50/50/50/50/60?
bulking
PCT
carb cycling while cutting and bulking. while cutting <30g carbs/day for 4 days, 5th day have a 200g carb meal, 6th day repeat. while bulking ~400g carbs/day for 5-6days, with 1-2days on low carbs. this way i keep carbs very anabolic to my body. after all, carbs ARE the most anabolic thing.
plus not trying to sound like a prick, but please reps. only reason i want them is so people can recognize that im a contributing member in 1sec.
HumpTheCook
Banned
im just curious, why are you cutting up right before you hit up a dbol cycle? cause its summer?
GLHF
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i wanna run the EQ 600mg 15weeks, but i dnt have another 200$ to spend.
prob gonna run 400 for 10 and 600 for 5 while on dbol
i do something called carb cycleing. its more anabolic then aas believe it or not. so im gonna cut because its summer yes, and because being 180lb at 7% and starting dbol is MUCH better then 210 at 16%. my carb depleted body starts eating carbs and throw in the test + MAYBE eq + dbols and ill gain 20-30lbs. MOST OF IT LEAN. seriously.
u got xp with gh/igf/peptides?
btw. been cutting for 9weeks natty.
HumpTheCook
Banned
ok this makes sense, i follow the logic here. you got more info on what you exactly? peeks my interest.
ive used insulin and igf-1 before, i started hgh right before i took a sudden 30 month hiatus from the gym.
GLHF
Well-known member
almost every cut diet i see has a carb cycling method in it. i do
4days with <40g carbs
5th day <40g carbs until last meal which is >400g carbs
repeat
for contest prep u just do 6 low and on 7th u carb up. for normal people 3 low 4th day entire day carbs, or 5days low, 2 days high.
next time u come across a comertial about the Anabolic Diet, thats wat it is lol. also very useful before u do a bulk cycle for 13 days be on <30g carbs/day, 14th day introduce carbs + start cycle. i guarantee youll gain a lot more.
which is better insulin or igf 1? results? wat dose u did?
EasyEJL
Never enough
thats just plain silly. Sure you gain more on the scale, but its all in stored glycogen, not lean muscle. All you end up gaining is the glycogen you lost over those 2 weeks, 2-3 lbs.
HumpTheCook
Banned
oh ok... that type of cycling is very similar to what i do when cutting, works for me.
nothing works better than slin as far as immediate results. it doesnt give you explosive strength strength gains but it does give you explosive mass gains if you eat properly and you must eat properly.
really though they work wonderfully together when run with aas. the igf will build up and let you keep making gains once you enter the post cycle portion in regards to the aas.
im dosing slin right now at 8iu twice daily.
i follow the less is more ideology when it comes to igf, because taking too much lr igf-1 will cause it to stay active in your body until some receptor picks it up, which often means you grow things you dont want to grow such as your intestines. so i believe in 40mcg split, so for example 20mcg in each bicept post workout.
GLHF
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cycle planning.... just because ur 40 doesnt mean uve seen/heard it all. theres always room to learn more. be open
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unc21
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Saying that it is more anabolic than AAS is completely wrong. I have ran CKD diets in the past, and usually do throughout the summer, and have seen some really good gains, but nothing comparable to AAS. I do agree that it is very effective and works, but not in the same league as AAS.
GLHF
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i understand diet has to be spot on or ull gain fat. and ill be on good amount of aas lol.
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GLHF
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all i said was that food is the most anabolic substance. what puts more weight on you? high calories diet without aas, or low calories diet with aas?
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EasyEJL
Never enough
Still just plain silly sorry. Losing stored glycogen over the weeks prior to gain it back so you feel like you are making gains at the start of a bulk is silly. Being carb deprived and suddenly adding them back in doesn't magically create an anabolic environment, it just creates higher glycogen storage for a while. 2 weeks like that isn't enough to change insulin sensitivity or have any other effects that would lead to more anabolism.
So sure, it seems like it works as you looked flat at the start and were a few pounds low on glycogen and probably a pound or two down on water retention too. And you add the carbs back and and suddenly you look a lot better, lifts go up, and you gain 2-3lbs the first week easy. But all you are gaining is that lost water retention + glycogen, not any muscle mass.
Carb cycling makes sense sure, as you have different total caloric needs different days, plus you do get slightly better lipolysis with lower insulin levels so you can burn some fat on low cal/low carb days while adding some mass on high cal/high carb days.
jamez45
New member
Run that bold all the way..I am on 800/week and started seeing results at week 12. Eq is very mild and can be run awhile in my opinion. It will make you hard though!
GLHF
Well-known member
ill definetly do 600mg/week while bulking. my source charges a lot for a bottle of it tho otherwise id love to try 800mgs
HumpTheCook
Banned
agreed.
and depending how good your eq is and how your body responds you may find you'll need to either a)drop the eq a lil or B)raise the test.
HumpTheCook
Banned
eq effects me just like deca or tren... i got keep the ratio ATLEAST 1.5:1 test : progestin if i wanna have any success fingerf uckin a chick... with my penis
Jasen
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LMFAO TOOOOOOOOO FUNNNNNNNNNNNNY
GnastyMcNasty
Member
This cycle I'm currently on: 20 mg Superdrol
30 mg Phera
60 mg oral turinabol
150 mg tren e E3D (may bump to 200, we'll see)
test base of 200 mg cypionate a week plus 1-2 androgels daily
30 mg Phera
60 mg oral turinabol
150 mg tren e E3D (may bump to 200, we'll see)
test base of 200 mg cypionate a week plus 1-2 androgels daily
GLHF
Well-known member
how is this half decent? PLEASE point out exactly what you find wrong.
cut
hdrol 75/100/100
test e 500mg/week 10weeks
bold 400mg/week 10weeks
clen week on week off 5 pulses
bulk
10-18 test e 750mg/week
10-15 eq 600mg/week OR stay 400mg for 1-18
10-16 dbol 40/50/50/50/50/60?
TRT?
if so mind sharing trt protocol?
if not, then have fun recovering.
stullsy
Member
thanks man, Im looking forward to it, Im thinking I might trade the EQ in for some tren enathate now b/c it will be easier on my wallet and probly run it at 300mgs/week for 8 weeks?? I also had anadrol for only 3 weeks b/c I wanted a week off orals before I started the anavar, I figured a total of 11 weeks on orals, no matter how mild, should be hefty enough on the liver... I might have to log this one when I start it ........... and to the other guy for all that I have done before, this is a crazy cycle to me
GnastyMcNasty
Member
Yes, TRT. my protocol is 200 mg cypionate a week. but i have a few boxes of gels left over from my last rx so i use them whenever i feel the need
bb4life
Member
1-16 Test E 750mg up to 1000mg
1-12 Deca 300mg up to 450mg
1-14 Eq 400mg up to 800mg
1-4 Dbol 30mg up to 40mg
13-18 Tbol 40mg up to 60mg
Cycle was good but honestly felt like i wasted gear after the cycle because I could have gained just as much on less mg. Won't ever go that high again. Also, this was the first time my hair ever thinned and i regret using that much test for that long.
1-12 Deca 300mg up to 450mg
1-14 Eq 400mg up to 800mg
1-4 Dbol 30mg up to 40mg
13-18 Tbol 40mg up to 60mg
Cycle was good but honestly felt like i wasted gear after the cycle because I could have gained just as much on less mg. Won't ever go that high again. Also, this was the first time my hair ever thinned and i regret using that much test for that long.
GLHF
Well-known member
exactly how i and 90% of all people feel on over 750mg test. i think it wouldve been very solid cycle if u ran everything the way u have it but without bumping the doses.
GLHF
Well-known member
damn.. im never going over 750mg test/week. idk how u can handle 2.5g/week
hahahahaaa no.