Ergopharm TestForce VS Primordials TCF-1

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JN230

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Which do you guys feel is the superior D-Aspartic Acid Product?

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I don't think TestForce is out yet. TCF-1 comes at 12 servings per bottle at about the same price as TestForce at 26 servings, so when TF comes out I'm def buying that. Some may say TCF-1 is better because of LV delivery, but TestForce apparently has perfect solubility in the gut. Now if PP does their TCF-1 BOGO again, they're pretty even. It comes down how much you want to pay for shipping then.
 
testforce is out. Im gonna go with TCF-1 now that its 24 servings and tastes amazing.
 
the bulk powder only has 26 servings...is there even a flavor or is it gonna taste wretched?
 
I consider anything from Primordial the way to go. The TCF-1 just doubled the doses without touching the price. Primordial has proven they put time and knowledge into the creation of great products, and I will also say I would rather have a easily measureable liquid flavored DAA then deal with a tasteless powder, but thats a personal choice.
 
just wanna know if anyone's bought this yet!
 
Nice bradleywiens I'm jealous, but now that pp doubled the serving size of tcf-1 and the price is the same, its like bogo everyday.
 
True Protein has a D-aspartic acid supp now. I picked some up based on the reviews, not even noticing that it was the same thing as the TCF-1 that I already have waiting for my next cycle.
 
zwa004 said:
I don't think TestForce is out yet. TCF-1 comes at 12 servings per bottle at about the same price as TestForce at 26 servings, so when TF comes out I'm def buying that. Some may say TCF-1 is better because of LV delivery, but TestForce apparently has perfect solubility in the gut. Now if PP does their TCF-1 BOGO again, they're pretty even. It comes down how much you want to pay for shipping then.
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it has not lv delivery, get your facts straight.
 
Just tried my tcf-1, the grape flavor is phenomenal and that is not an exaggeration, kinda reminds me of a shock tart.
 
i would go with pps TCF-1 just for the taste alone.
 
I am using the PP version now. Day 5, nothing to report.

I did register on their board and ask them if it was safe to take after my stoked/testopro/formadrol stack.

They said yes and recommended Sustain Alpha for recovery from that stack. I noticed it had a lot of the same stuff my first stack had, and the guy on there was saying I needed to recover from the Formadrol, but it doesn't have anything steroidal in it, does it? I know it used to have ATD or some equivalent, but now it all looks like natural ingredients.

If this thread is still going on, I will update you on the progress up until day 15.
 
Test300 said:
I am using the PP version now. Day 5, nothing to report.

I did register on their board and ask them if it was safe to take after my stoked/testopro/formadrol stack.

They said yes and recommended Sustain Alpha for recovery from that stack. I noticed it had a lot of the same stuff my first stack had, and the guy on there was saying I needed to recover from the Formadrol, but it doesn't have anything steroidal in it, does it? I know it used to have ATD or some equivalent, but now it all looks like natural ingredients.

If this thread is still going on, I will update you on the progress up until day 15.
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I at the moment can't remember why, and I am sure someone will chime in, but LG does recommend the use of an OTC PCT for the Formadrol.
 
I have both but haven't tried either one yet. Saving it for PCT. I think I'll try one for the first 12 days of PCT, 12 day break and then try the other for 12 days and throw up a comparison of the two when completed.
 
HereToStudy said:
I at the moment can't remember why, and I am sure someone will chime in, but LG does recommend the use of an OTC PCT for the Formadrol.
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Really? I Googled the hell out of 'Formadrol Extreme', and I can not find anything that suggests using a PCT for it. All I can find are people using Formadrol for PCT.

I was running Stoked with it, which is non-hormonal along with TestoPro, and the Sustain product had a lot of the same stuff Stoked did.

How would I PCT for Formadrol? The trifecta stack ends with Formadrol, so what do people do after that?
 
Go with testforce as it is more soluble in the gut and offers better absorption

And why the f would you be worried about taste? Are you fn kidding me?
 
I have both but haven't tried either one yet. Saving it for PCT. I think I'll try one for the first 12 days of PCT, 12 day break and then try the other for 12 days and throw up a comparison of the two when completed.
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No need for a 12 day on off cycle....that was just a marketing ploy by primordial to sell their measly 12 serving bottle

Just run it untill you want to stop
 
heavydeadlift said:
No need for a 12 day on off cycle....that was just a marketing ploy by primordial to sell their measly 12 serving bottle

Just run it untill you want to stop
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Jesus christ this is the second thread of tcf-1 i am in where someone has made a stupid ass comment as if primordial is trying to screw everyone. They could have told you to take it for 100 days and made a hellava lot more money, instead they matched the timeframe of te study that influenced tcf-1 and choose to not risk your health by recommending you use it for longer then they know the effects of it. Id rather have a company that stays cautious about what they recommend as opposed to careless.
 
Test300 said:
Really? I Googled the hell out of 'Formadrol Extreme', and I can not find anything that suggests using a PCT for it. All I can find are people using Formadrol for PCT.

I was running Stoked with it, which is non-hormonal along with TestoPro, and the Sustain product had a lot of the same stuff Stoked did.

How would I PCT for Formadrol? The trifecta stack ends with Formadrol, so what do people do after that?
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Ahhh bro i am so sorry, i mixed up form and natadrol. Natadrol requires an otc pct such as form or the 911, but with form you are fine! Really sorry about that!
 
HereToStudy said:
Jesus christ this is the second thread of tcf-1 i am in where someone has made a stupid ass comment as if primordial is trying to screw everyone. They could have told you to take it for 100 days and made a hellava lot more money, instead they matched the timeframe of te study that influenced tcf-1 and choose to not risk your health by recommending you use it for longer then they know the effects of it. Id rather have a company that stays cautious about what they recommend as opposed to careless.
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Point taken. I'll stick to PP's recommendation.
 
To be honest...I do not think there is going to be a discernible difference between the two products. PP is top notch stuff...they quite honestly do not put out anything, but quality. Additionally, knowing who is behind the creation of Test Force means it will be quality as well (PA is one of the most gifted minds this industry has ever known). In this respect...I think the decision between the two is more of what kind of bias you have toward each company.

Cheers!:cheers:
 
SamBoz19 said:
To be honest...I do not think there is going to be a discernible difference between the two products. PP is top notch stuff...they quite honestly do not put out anything, but quality. Additionally, knowing who is behind the creation of Test Force means it will be quality as well (PA is one of the most gifted minds this industry has ever known). In this respect...I think the decision between the two is more of what kind of bias you have toward each company.

Cheers!:cheers:
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Thanks for weighing in Sean. I've decided to go home tonight and run a bottle of TCF-1 for the next 12 days to see what it's all about. I start a cycle in three weeks so when I come off and start PCT, I'll go with the Test Force and see how that goes.
 
seunim said:
Thanks for weighing in Sean. I've decided to go home tonight and run a bottle of TCF-1 for the next 12 days to see what it's all about. I start a cycle in three weeks so when I come off and start PCT, I'll go with the Test Force and see how that goes.
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That sounds like a good plan. By running both you can then make your own determination and then shed light on this matter as to which you personally prefer.

I'll be looking forward to your feedback on both products bud ;)

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-
 
seunim said:
Point taken. I'll stick to PP's recommendation.
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I didn't mean to come off as harsh, but in another thread there was some PP bashing as well, and honestly it just shakes me the wrong way when a company tries its hardest to provide the best quality product at the best price it can, and gets bashed for it. If I came off harsh, I really didnt meant to. :fing02:
 
HereToStudy said:
I didn't mean to come off as harsh, but in another thread there was some PP bashing as well, and honestly it just shakes me the wrong way when a company tries its hardest to provide the best quality product at the best price it can, and gets bashed for it. If I came off harsh, I really didnt meant to. :fing02:
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You're not alone in that feeling. I get real reactionary when people talk smack about USP and LG... for the same reasons you mentioned above.
 
heavydeadlift said:
Go with testforce as it is more soluble in the gut and offers better absorption

And why the f would you be worried about taste? Are you fn kidding me?
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when there are two very similar products they have to compete based on something. Do you buy crappy tasting protein? I for one don't enjoying choking down something that tastes like gravel.

heavydeadlift said:
No need for a 12 day on off cycle....that was just a marketing ploy by primordial to sell their measly 12 serving bottle

Just run it untill you want to stop
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Where are you getting this information? PP said directly that you could run it longer....but there was no evidence concluded by their study to as what it would do after 12 days. The fact that it raised test by 42 percent in 12 days would still give me a reason to buy it....it sounds like you have a personal vendetta against PP.
 
They're both similar products, and arguably would have the same effect (as they are effectively the same.

However, that being said. I have gained a lot of respect for PP, so I would go with them.
 
Just fyi the tcf-1 now comes in a 24 serving bottle for the same price as the 12 serving bottle was. I agree I'm not one for bashing unless it is merited, looking forward to some actually logs on here for the two.
 
They're both similar products, and arguably would have the same effect (as they are effectively the same.

However, that being said. I have gained a lot of respect for PP, so I would go with them.
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How have you gained respect for PP?

When their owner got on PHF and couldn't defend himself for sh** when questioned about propaganda stype articles he wrote I lost all respect for that company......
 
heavydeadlift said:
How have you gained respect for PP?

When their owner got on PHF and couldn't defend himself for sh** when questioned about propaganda stype articles he wrote I lost all respect for that company......
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sounds like a buncha hearsay to me.
 
HereToStudy said:
I didn't mean to come off as harsh, but in another thread there was some PP bashing as well, and honestly it just shakes me the wrong way when a company tries its hardest to provide the best quality product at the best price it can, and gets bashed for it. If I came off harsh, I really didnt meant to. :fing02:
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No worries. I'm a big fan of PP's products as well. Matter of fact, I decided to try a bottle of the TCF-1 so I started last evening. I swear I had an erection half of the night. Let's see how 12 days goes.:fing02:
 
HATEFULone said:
Just fyi the tcf-1 now comes in a 24 serving bottle for the same price as the 12 serving bottle was. I agree I'm not one for bashing unless it is merited, looking forward to some actually logs on here for the two.
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I'm running 24 doses of TCF-1 in 12 days.
 
When did PP up the servings to 24? I ordered 2 of the bogo(got 4) and they are 12 servings. Is there now a 24 serving they are selling for the same price?
 
heavydeadlift said:
How have you gained respect for PP?

When their owner got on PHF and couldn't defend himself for sh** when questioned about propaganda stype articles he wrote I lost all respect for that company......
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LOL- Thats a good reason as any. I quess.

PHF has/is changing brah.

That board was getting little out of hand IMO.

However, now it appears to have gone too far the other way. :(
 
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