D-Bol supposed to be THE MOST ANABOLIC PRODUCT EVER for mass

tmbone said:
Going off the topic with the dosages, I believe if someone is going to run a cycle of steroids, they should go with high dosages with long periods of time. Just the idea of running mild cycles to me is stupid and a waste of time. "Go big or go home".
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I agree with the "go big or go home" mentality when it comes to AAS use. There is no point investing the time, and partaking in the risks and side effects that come along with AAS unless you're making some very significant gains. This is why, generally speaking, the threshold of intolerable side effects should be the upper limit on the amount of gear you can run. In other words, if you can safely handle the side effects, go for it.

But, from what I've picked up in my own experiences and those of others, it seems longer cycles don't have the same "return on investment" that shorter, higher dosed cycles have. With long cycles the gains begin tapering off pretty quick as your body adjusts. Also, generally speaking, a longer cycle is going to be harder to recover from. For example, I would much rather do a 10 week Test cycle (which to me is pretty long as it is) with a gram per week than a 20 week cycle of 500mg/week. Same amount of gear, the gains probably won't be dramatically different, but the recovery process most likely would. On top of that, with the 20 weeker it will be longer before you can safely run your next cycle which means over time, your accumulated gains might be less.

This is just my take on it, everyone has their own.
 
EasyEJL said:
Well, the point of the dextrose is to force the highest fastest insulin response possible with the leucine. Really any of the other carb sources will not cause as fast or strong of a spike, same with using glycobol or any other GLUT-4 enhancing product. The insulin response is specifically to help increase the absorption of the carnitine through cell walls, and there aren't any studies showing that GLUT-4 will do the same (although it may). Roughly, the 5g of leucine + 25g dextrose gives you an insulin response similar to 100g of dextrose. I'd think it would be good even for a natural bodybuilder, as high intracellular carnitine levels will also aid in fat and carbohydrate metabolism which will help overall with muscle growth anyhow, regardless of the added bonus of the higher receptor count
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Should this be done as a stand alone strategy on an empty stomach, or at some other opportune time such as pre workout? Also, would you suggest including Creatine along with this preparation in order to also enhance uptake and cell volumization to make the most of the dextrose ingestion?
 
Outstanding said:
Should this be done as a stand alone strategy on an empty stomach, or at some other opportune time such as pre workout? Also, would you suggest including Creatine along with this preparation in order to also enhance uptake and cell volumization to make the most of the dextrose ingestion?
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i'd try to do it on a relatively empty stomach but it doesn't seem totally critical from the studies. The creatine with it would be a good idea, i'd go with 5g of monohydrate.
 
Hey guys !! I do have a question. I'm going to start the Superdrone LV. I still have faith in my first love, (Dianabol) and I wonder if Superdrone and Dianabol would make a great couple's delight? I have done some research on both properties, but trying to contimplate how the two formulas could mesh has just become a little out of my range og knowledge; and have not found anyone whom has tried these stacked together. Im aware of the PCT and anti-est to be implemented, but for some reason, thinking of these two put together, would be very nice !! Despite water retention (my jacked up joints and sockets feel better with the water retention) any feedback would be great!

Any input, positive or negative would be much appreciated !!
Thanks!
 
i used to take methyl xt untill it was banned. it was the **** and i gained 20 lbs in about 6 weeks. it also gave me good libido and no mood swings. is there something equivalent or better than this product out there right now. any feedback is appreciated
 
762mm said:
Hey guys !! I do have a question. I'm going to start the Superdrone LV. I still have faith in my first love, (Dianabol) and I wonder if Superdrone and Dianabol would make a great couple's delight? I have done some research on both properties, but trying to contimplate how the two formulas could mesh has just become a little out of my range og knowledge; and have not found anyone whom has tried these stacked together. Im aware of the PCT and anti-est to be implemented, but for some reason, thinking of these two put together, would be very nice !! Despite water retention (my jacked up joints and sockets feel better with the water retention) any feedback would be great!

Any input, positive or negative would be much appreciated !!
Thanks!
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The obvious concern here would be liver toxicity.
 
Man oh man.. Im at wrk and on my phone so my reply will not be fancy.. I have cycled for 16 yrs. Dbol ran 6 wks was the norm and still is when u visit a hardcore steroid BB forum or when u meet an old
 
school juicer. In my personal experience dbol wrks fantastic @ 25mgs/day. There is no reason to take more of a drug than u need. Its careless and stupid. Same goes for test.. Ill post again later!!
 
EasyEJL said:
It depends. I think herbals that lower SHBG (particularly since you don't get any liver damage from nettle root unlike oral winny) and that raise LH are useful on cycle. Ones that tend to directly affect test levels not so much, however things like carnitine that enhance androgen receptors are also handy.
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Here are 2 compounds that have excellent reports/studies behind them:

Trans-Resveratrol 99%
7,8 Benzoflavone 99%

There are so many health benefits with the above compounds.
 
I also agree with whoever posted using dbol at the end of cycle. While its fun to use during the begining to kick it off, its even better IMO used at the end to push gains once u have tapered off.
 
Ive only run dbol at very low doses i.e between 15 and 30mg ed for four weeks,during this time i felt slightly bloated and experienced zero pumps at the gym,whereas when i ran Phera in the past i experienced lots of pumps,solid gains i.e almost no water retention and more defined mass which was kept post PCT on 30mg ed.

IMO Phera is better,but i have only ever run them both once.
 
"Better" is a relative term. It's hard to say any steroid is "better" without stating your goals or other steroids you might be stacking with it.
 
Well thanks for the input! I guess for the first time during any of this time I have been becoming quite obsessed with working out ect ect. Anadrol 50 and Dianabol were my first real products. Believe it or not, my spinal pains and joint pains cleared up with those products. Now days, and now that im feeling myself get stronger, I feel that urge to go overboard for even more results. Patients is the key i guess, and should probably stick the the superdrone lv, then move back to the Dianabol!!

Good Day Guys!!
 
Well guys, have a good day. But before I go. What did the blanket say to the bed?
I Got Ya Covered! waaaak waaaak waaak lmao

Good Day
 
PumpDogg said:
I also agree with whoever posted using dbol at the end of cycle. While its fun to use during the begining to kick it off, its even better IMO used at the end to push gains once u have tapered off.
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I give a lot of credence to this theory... and will be putting it in practice shortly. Switching to a mid-cycle protocol of a 13-ethyl or lower dosed Winstrol, and then re-introducing Dianabol in the final phase of a cycle concurrently with proviron or anavar will increase the likelihood of maintaining your newly accrued gains post cycle cessation.
 
Hey where do you get LCLT?? I can't seem to finds it anywhere online... also, is only LCLT beneficial for the androgen receptors? ALCAR has no benefit at all?
 
PumpDogg said:
school juicer. In my personal experience dbol wrks fantastic @ 25mgs/day. There is no reason to take more of a drug than u need. Its careless and stupid. Same goes for test.. Ill post again later!!
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i cant stres how correct this. look at the way dbol works there isno need for over 25 3o
 
i would prefer taking the smaller doses of 25 to 30 mgs per day anyway. i dont want to start with to much on my first cycle
 
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