Will have some before and after blood work while using it in 2 weeks (been on 2 weeks)
People are quick to discredit and slow to praise....human nature I suppose.Will have some before and after blood work while using it in 2 weeks (been on 2 weeks)
Yah the stuff is very soluble... I have read some posts from PA over the years and he seems to really know his stuff, (hek I wouldn't know one way or the other), but his motivations have always given me doubt. Seems to spend too much time trying discredit everything out there. At least he admitted the mistake.People are quick to discredit and slow to praise....human nature I suppose.
First PA said it's not soluble in water and NP's DAA was soluble plus he tested NP's product and it was legit but its soluble...hmmm, makes you think......
He wants PINK MagicYah the stuff is very soluble... I have read some posts from PA over the years and he seems to really know his stuff, (hek I wouldn't know one way or the other), but his motivations have always given me doubt. Seems to spend too much time trying discredit everything out there. At least he admitted the mistake.
His main point it always seems is to discredit competitive products and then release something similar that is waaayyy better for various reasons at a later point in time. All of his products have been overpriced weak or not living up to the hype products anyway IMO. I don't see a reason to trust a guy like that. I am sure he admitted that he made a mistake because NP probably had counter data showing the opposite of what he claimed. After retesting magically its ok now... the guys a shill for his products thats it.People are quick to discredit and slow to praise....human nature I suppose.
First PA said it's not soluble in water and NP's DAA was soluble plus he tested NP's product and it was legit but its soluble...hmmm, makes you think......
What's in pink magic?He wants PINK Magic
lol well I thought he was a member here? I have read posts by him on here..maybe he just doesn't come around anymore. I would say it just the same and quote some articles debunking his work if he happened to respond. Legend yes. Genius no. On a side note I will most definitely enjoy some DAA form NP in the near future!Come on guys, there is no reason to show disrespect towards PA, especially when he is not on this board to defend himself. In my book, the guy will go down as a legend.
Remember, HE is not the one who personally tested this product, he had it tested. The person testing the product messed up and tested it incorrectly the first time around. This product requires MUCH more comprehensive testing than most compounds. As soon as he found this out, he was quick to admitting to this mistake.
All is well and no harm done. We have legit product and will continue bringing the best overall quality possible.
Now everyone just get along and enjoy their freakin DAA , gosh darn it!
Thanks for the feedback! subbed.I've been using this stuff for the past two weeks and definitely feeling the testosterone increase. Sleep is great, mood is great, stuff seems like the real deal.
This is the main effect I've been having which is more than most test boosters for me. The fact that I feel anything on a natural T booster is saying something even if it's increased libido (thigh doesn't always equal more test)I have to say this has boosted my libido more than any other (non-hormonal) product I have used.
As in efficacy? Or bunk product?So what's the verdict on this so far? Worth it or bunk?
Looking forward to this. I'm sure many people will appreciate it.As in efficacy? Or bunk product?
The D-aspartic bulk is 100% legit no problems at all with their batches. The product has several studies backig it up and users so far feel it increases libido.
I will have bloodwork Thursday of 4 weeks at 6g
Is there a baseline test to go by when looking at the new numbers?As in efficacy? Or bunk product?
The D-aspartic bulk is 100% legit no problems at all with their batches. The product has several studies backig it up and users so far feel it increases libido.
I will have bloodwork Thursday of 4 weeks at 6g
I hope so. Only assumptions can be made without baseline blood work.Is there a baseline test to go by when looking at the new numbers?
Ofcourse! Wouldn't make sense to just have blood work without baseline. Had blood work done and was disappointed at what I saw. Been using this 6g regimine plus NOW Sam-e and I3C in the mornings.Is there a baseline test to go by when looking at the new numbers?
No problem. Was purely for me and my hormonal health so there's no biased one way or the other. Would be getting the test either way so just a bonus for people who are interested!looking forward to seeing this grambo. thanks for making this available
That's awesome Grambo!!Ofcourse! Wouldn't make sense to just have blood work without baseline. Had blood work done and was disappointed at what I saw. Been using this 6g regimine plus NOW Sam-e and I3C in the mornings.
Great, looking forward to your result!Hopefully blood work comes out positive! Drew blood today and will have results around 10-11 am I assume tomorrow.
Look for that.
Wow, you could be a spokes person.lol, this simple, yet powerful substance may be the most powerful natural supplement out there to boost testosterone levels and really delivers what it promises. forget about fake products like activate xtreme, tbol by thermolife and bioforge by biotivia. this is the real deal and cheap as hell too.
That's a 70% increase in total test ?Well on 3/10 I did blood work just because I had this weird feeling I hadn't recovered well enough from my fall cycle. My post PCT blood work came back fine (2/4) but had a few feelings of lower Test, not much really but enough to make me wonder.
Turned out my feelings were right:
Blood work from 3/10
Total Test Serum: 205 Range 280-800
FSH: 1.8
LH: 3.5
Estradiol: 20.7
ALT: 57
AST: 41 Both HIGH
Talked to several people about maybe doing another PCT or something and ended up going the Natural route to give it a try. This particular protocol was suggested to me by THE HUGE who works for Biotivia and developed Bioforge. So wanted give recognition where it was due.
Protocol
Upon Waking: 400mg sam-e
400mg I3C
3g Nutraplanet Bulk D-aspartic acid
In the evening: another 3g of DAA
Results Blood work 4/15
Total Test Serum: 348 Back within range and feeling great
FSH: 2.2
LH: 4.3
Estradiol: 24.9 Very slight raise but expected with increased T
ALT: 24
AST: 39 Dropped significantly
Well it was for two parts:Grambo, what's the rationale for the sam-e in this protocol? I take it every morning for mood enhancement ... so just wondering how it helps Test levels.
I have to say this has boosted my libido more than any other (non-hormonal) product I have used.
Mine increased slightly by first week, but fro me 3rd and 4th week were amazing in this area and refractory period was nill.could you eleborate more on this please? when did the libido increase set in?
just happy that something so cheap could raise test levels so significantly.Wow, you could be a spokes person.
I believe so....... :drive:That's a 70% increase in total test ?
Very significant, thanks for doing this. I am on so much stuff for my prep that it's hard to tell what's working.I believe so....... :drive:
Not great with math lol but thats what i got too
Im anxiously awaiting what you find. Good stuff. How long do you plan to run it?4 weeks almost exactly (first blood test done a little before starting)
I don't see anything wrong with the protocol as the original study was run at 12 days. No reason you couldn't go more in my opinion though. 2-3 weeks will probably retest to see if I can keep those levels.
As far as I know downsides are non existent for now. It is an amino acid.
No I realize that, I was wondering if you were continuing on. My mistake.Well my 4 week results were on the other page
bumpNo I realize that, I was wondering if you were continuing on. My mistake.
Ohhh sorry, I'm for now discontinuing it and prob get it checked again In a few weeks. Looking into other things to help Test increase naturally as wellNo I realize that, I was wondering if you were continuing on. My mistake.
Sorry did not respond sooner. It took about two weeks and I noticed a huge increase in libido. I am older than most of you guys and noticed over the last two years my sex drive dropped off quite a bit. I tried many things and nothing worked. Prohormones and pro-steriod products worked for a short time say 2 weeks or so and then it got worst. The natural test boosters I tried (and it has been many) did little for me. But this stuff has sent my sex drive thru the roof. I would say it compares to what it was in my late 20's. IMO I think it is freeing up bound test and the stimulating of the LH factor is helping as well. I feel great. An amazing product for just being an amino acid.could you eleborate more on this please? when did the libido increase set in?
No problem. I am 52.What is your age if you don't mind me asking? I have similar circumstances and would be very happy with the same results you've had.
Oh believe it, its from the Daa, I tried going 6g the other day, it was like my 6th day on it and my libido went SOUTH along with DOMS which tells me prolactin was elevated. Guys I can not stress this but use a prolactin blocker, you will need it.Update
I can't be for certain that this was caused by my high dosing of DAA or that I had this problem already (since my levels of T were low and been tryign to bring them up) BUT...
Blood work form Yesterday 4/19
PRL 16.4 HIGH Range for Lab 4.0-15.2
So to be on safe side might want to add in some sort of prolactin control such as Ldopa
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