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Congrats--I can't believe you have this available already. What are the recommendations on dose? Just jump to the 3g in the Italian Study? Or start lower?
really?! I'll hold off on this one until i read more on it.I'd like to know about this too. Some research indicated that this increases prolactin? There's a thread around if you search for it.
Dose dependant. Like everything else.I'd like to know about this too. Some research indicated that this increases prolactin? There's a thread around if you search for it.
Interesting how did the dosing in the study go ?Dose dependant. Like everything else.
G.E.T., AX, and Muscle Warfare have just come out with different products with DAA. None of them come even close to the 3g dosage. Muscle Warfare has NMDA (N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid) which is supposed to be much stronger. The whole point of supplementing DAA is the conversion TO NMDA.
Anyway, I have the Muscle Warfare Product NMDA (which has DAA, NMDA and a couple of serms and cofactors) and a bulk DAA product in capsule called DAA Pure on the way. So in a week or two I'll be trying whichever comes first and comparing the two.
Muscle Warfare is doing in house testing on MMA fighters in their gym and are seeing nearly instant increases in Test, Gh, and Dhea levels. Their documentation impresses me. I don't expect Clinical Controlled Trials--that would make a our supplements $150 a bottle. But doing simple, in house testing is something most companies are not doing. Claiming a test boost is one thing, actually demonstrating it is another.
I'll be coming off Natadrol to try DAA. I doubt this stuff could touch how incredibly well, even unbelievably well Natadrol works for me.
I wonder if this means more D amino acid supplements are in our future?
I dont think this should be taken as a stand alone, L-dopa(Powerfull) for prolactin/Test/HGH and anti estrogen( PP Sustain or IBE 6 bromo) would be great. The studies show this stuff raises Test rapidly and to high levels, so precautions should be taken.
It also raises IGF-1 and HGH, so adding HGHup should make for one hell of a stack.
Also, this converts through a methyl donor process into NDMA, so you might want to look into adding something that increases this conversion. Muscle Warfare has really addressesd a lot of these issues but bulk would allow you to play with a lot of different stacks.
vitamin B6, folic acid and vitamin B12I just ordered some of this and will get it Friday, and intend to stack with Sustain, PowerFull, and ATD. But ideas for good methyl donors would be great?!
You are on a roll today, AGREE big time, just make sure not to use formestane everyday after the 2 week mark in which it reaches peak plasma blood concentration.(avoid androgen saturartion/hence shutdown) I would go 3-6g of DAA, 1.4g of 1-carboxy, 5mg of P5P, 60mg of Ginkgo Bilboa, 50mg DMAE, 1-1.5g of fadogia and 2g of LCLT for the ultimate test boosting stack hehe. Oh and throw in some exemestane eod or e2d at 12.5gs.:439:The above mentioned methyl donors all work well but you can also look at DMAE or SAMe.
DAA has also been reported to improve mood, so stacking it with SAMe would be an interesting combo.
One thing about the studies, they were ran at 3 grams, so it is very possible that a lower dose could produce similar increases as the 3 gram dose. I believe Muscle Warfare said they found it to be just as potent at lower doses.
Patrick Arnold said on another board that he knows guys running up to 8 grams a day with no sides.
Dont know if I would go that far considering your body has a limit on how much it can convert DAA into NMDA and of course you would be increasing any possible sides.
I would play with dosing, start maybe at 1 gram and increase as needed. In fact, now that it is in bulk, I may just have to give it a try.
My Stack: DAA, Powerfull, PP Sustain/PP Form, SAMe,TMG. Maybe through in HGHup for its HGH increasing effects and Olive Oil, its cheap and its supplies the fats needed to build test.
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Hold on a second, all of these Muscle Warfare products are $70 each. The only thing I am paying $70 for are real injectables, which I have at my disposal. What is the payoff of using these Muscle Warfare products versus buying the bulk form amino acid? And to the guy suggesting running a post cycle for an amino acid....are you serious? Just because something increased free testosterone 40% in lab rats doesn't mean that we should immediately start buying nolva and hcg with a bulk amino acid. It sounds like someone is a little too scared of all the horror stories that come with not taking a proper post cycle. I have taken everything under the sun, have paid my dues, and am able to stay ripped year round. Therefore, I know what works and I know what doesn't. Bulking cycles are for lazy *******s. I am doing my own assessment of this product, which you can bet will be legit because I'm not on their payroll.Dose dependant. Like everything else.
G.E.T., AX, and Muscle Warfare have just come out with different products with DAA. None of them come even close to the 3g dosage. Muscle Warfare has NMDA (N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid) which is supposed to be much stronger. The whole point of supplementing DAA is the conversion TO NMDA.
Anyway, I have the Muscle Warfare Product NMDA (which has DAA, NMDA and a couple of serms and cofactors) and a bulk DAA product in capsule called DAA Pure on the way. So in a week or two I'll be trying whichever comes first and comparing the two.
Muscle Warfare is doing in house testing on MMA fighters in their gym and are seeing nearly instant increases in Test, Gh, and Dhea levels. Their documentation impresses me. I don't expect Clinical Controlled Trials--that would make a our supplements $150 a bottle. But doing simple, in house testing is something most companies are not doing. Claiming a test boost is one thing, actually demonstrating it is another.
I'll be coming off Natadrol to try DAA. I doubt this stuff could touch how incredibly well, even unbelievably well Natadrol works for me.
I wonder if this means more D amino acid supplements are in our future?
Hold on a second, all of these Muscle Warfare products are $70 each. The only thing I am paying $70 for are real injectables, which I have at my disposal. What is the payoff of using these Muscle Warfare products versus buying the bulk form amino acid? And to the guy suggesting running a post cycle for an amino acid....are you serious? Just because something increased free testosterone 40% in lab rats doesn't mean that we should immediately start buying nolva and hcg with a bulk amino acid. It sounds like someone is a little too scared of all the horror stories that come with not taking a proper post cycle. I have taken everything under the sun, have paid my dues, and am able to stay ripped year round. Therefore, I know what works and I know what doesn't. Bulking cycles are for lazy *******s. I am doing my own assessment of this product, which you can bet will be legit because I'm not on their payroll.
Interesting how did the dosing in the study go ?
Yeah, I've read of people using SARM's too, (no stack intended) and they start to see yellow and blue when they've been on too long.
please post a link for your log when avail
I'm very anxious to hear your assessment..Hold on a second, all of these Muscle Warfare products are $70 each. The only thing I am paying $70 for are real injectables, which I have at my disposal. What is the payoff of using these Muscle Warfare products versus buying the bulk form amino acid? And to the guy suggesting running a post cycle for an amino acid....are you serious? Just because something increased free testosterone 40% in lab rats doesn't mean that we should immediately start buying nolva and hcg with a bulk amino acid. It sounds like someone is a little too scared of all the horror stories that come with not taking a proper post cycle. I have taken everything under the sun, have paid my dues, and am able to stay ripped year round. Therefore, I know what works and I know what doesn't. Bulking cycles are for lazy *******s. I am doing my own assessment of this product, which you can bet will be legit because I'm not on their payroll.
I am as well.I'm very anxious to hear your assessment..
I received an order from Muscle Warfare. Now I am confused th label says it has 35 mg ofthe "NMDA Amino Acid hormal Amplifying Matrix" --that of course consists of D-Aspartic acid, NMDA, Trimethyl Glycine and SAMe. If the label holds true then Muscle Warfare is the biggest RIP-OFF $70.00 FOR A FEW MILLIGRAMS OF supposedly active ingredients.
This is something everyone should do.Lesson learned, do not order until you can see the actual label.....
The ingredients were listed but not the dosages. Each capsule is only 230mg.This is something everyone should do.
Good info there, and even more of a reason to buy bulk.FYI, Muscle Warfare appears to be owned by Fizogen/SDI Labs/Legal Steriods.com.
If you like those products, fine, but just be sure you know who you're doing business with.
Thanks for the heads up, although I had no intentions of making purchases since their prices are out of whack, if I want a methyl donor, I will TMG which has three in itself.FYI, Muscle Warfare appears to be owned by Fizogen/SDI Labs/Legal Steriods.com.
If you like those products, fine, but just be sure you know who you're doing business with.
Bro dont stress to much, the effects of NMDA are considered to be 70 percent stronger as no conversion takes place.Me too. Just came in yesterday. It is VERY underdosed. VERY VERY underdosed. If I had seen a label before ordering I WOULD NOT have ordered the product. On the phone the lady said the recommended dose is 2-3 caps a day (of a 90 count bottle). So now I have the bottle and it says to take 2-3 caps TWO TO THREE x a day! At 9 caps a day this will last 10 days....
Lesson learned, do not order until you can see the actual label.....
I did get my DAA Pure (120 750mg D-aspartic acid) caps two days ago. I've worked out only once and had an impressive workout but obviously I need more time to evaluate. I went with the full 3g dosage.
Yea, I am pissed about this Muscle Warfare NMDA. The profile itself looks good, but the dosages are miniscule. As usual, bulk is the way to go.
YU
NMDA is supposedly 100x stronger so your looking at a 32mg doseDose dependant. Like everything else.
G.E.T., AX, and Muscle Warfare have just come out with different products with DAA. None of them come even close to the 3g dosage. Muscle Warfare has NMDA (N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid) which is supposed to be much stronger. The whole point of supplementing DAA is the conversion TO NMDA.
Anyway, I have the Muscle Warfare Product NMDA (which has DAA, NMDA and a couple of serms and cofactors) and a bulk DAA product in capsule called DAA Pure on the way. So in a week or two I'll be trying whichever comes first and comparing the two.
Muscle Warfare is doing in house testing on MMA fighters in their gym and are seeing nearly instant increases in Test, Gh, and Dhea levels. Their documentation impresses me. I don't expect Clinical Controlled Trials--that would make a our supplements $150 a bottle. But doing simple, in house testing is something most companies are not doing. Claiming a test boost is one thing, actually demonstrating it is another.
I'll be coming off Natadrol to try DAA. I doubt this stuff could touch how incredibly well, even unbelievably well Natadrol works for me.
I wonder if this means more D amino acid supplements are in our future?
They are in fact using us as guinea pigs and charging an arm and a leg. I have been using two capsules three times per day for the past three days and I do feel an effect but only a subtle one. Nothing as compared to when I first started using USP Labs Powerfull.Or beta- alanine for pre-work-out. They have a pretty nice write-up. Think of it : if that matrix which consists of 4 different ingredients (NMDA,D-aspartic,TMG and SAMe) is just a meager 35mg then there must be actual 5 or 10 mg of NMDA. In the meantime I just ordered Nutraplanet's bulk D-aspartic acid.Me too. Just came in yesterday. It is VERY underdosed. VERY VERY underdosed. If I had seen a label before ordering I WOULD NOT have ordered the product. On the phone the lady said the recommended dose is 2-3 caps a day (of a 90 count bottle). So now I have the bottle and it says to take 2-3 caps TWO TO THREE x a day! At 9 caps a day this will last 10 days....
Lesson learned, do not order until you can see the actual label.....
I did get my DAA Pure (120 750mg D-aspartic acid) caps two days ago. I've worked out only once and had an impressive workout but obviously I need more time to evaluate. I went with the full 3g dosage.
Yea, I am pissed about this Muscle Warfare NMDA. The profile itself looks good, but the dosages are miniscule. As usual, bulk is the way to go.
YU
So far two works outs in at 3g. Yea, it definitely gives strength gains and pumps. But...pretty strong fatigue. Not PH kind, but enough to effect me. I hate that so much.... So, tomorrow I'll do 1.5g.They are in fact using us as guinea pigs and charging an arm and a leg. I have been using two capsules three times per day for the past three days and I do feel an effect but only a subtle one. Nothing as compared to when I first started using USP Labs Powerfull.Or beta- alanine for pre-work-out. They have a pretty nice write-up. Think of it : if that matrix which consists of 4 different ingredients (NMDA,D-aspartic,TMG and SAMe) is just a meager 35mg then there must be actual 5 or 10 mg of NMDA. In the meantime I just ordered Nutraplanet's bulk D-aspartic acid.
or a homocysteine product.Thanks for the heads up, although I had no intentions of making purchases since their prices are out of whack, if I want a methyl donor, I will TMG which has three in itself.
So far two works outs in at 3g. Yea, it definitely gives strength gains and pumps. But...pretty strong fatigue. Not PH kind, but enough to effect me. I hate that so much.... So, tomorrow I'll do 1.5g.
You mean an anti homocysteine product, as homocyesteine causes hardening of the arteries and possibly damages brain cells.or a homocysteine product.
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