thebigt
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From what I figured, just take water spread throughout the day and not at once to avoid bloat.
keep us updated on that.:veryhappy:
From what I figured, just take water spread throughout the day and not at once to avoid bloat.
I knew you guys would like this stuff. The strength and endurance gains are noticeable from day 1. As far as the bloat goes it is about a 75%no bloat to 25% slight bloat split.and for those people noticing bloat typically from what we have seen it dissapears by about the 3rd or 4th dose.
Results look great keep us posted!!
Interesting, this serious WILL be a staple, I just wish you guys made a size with more servings, but my punching power even went up on this, I told bravoLima, that it should have been made without hesitation, its an awesome product and should be respected; I almost feel like send a sample to someone on AM to know how good these stuff.
PICK ME PICK ME:bigok: lol jk, I will be getting some for sure when they get it at nutraplanet. Can't wait!
So here we go:
4-5 caps HGHup pre bed 5x a week
5 caps spread with HCGhenerate Invalid Link Removed
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Bulk P-slin pre and post workout meals
1additonal g of LCLT in AM
4.5g GPLC eod or e2d
Occassional extra testofen from TestoProp prebed
ATP tabs preworkout when I get it
OEP 1 before breakfast, sometimes preworkout
2g beta-alanine daily
5g creatine when needed
I hope to be able to compare the ATP tabs to creatine in terms of strength, endurance, recovery, and energy. I do not like that fact that creatine affect insulin levels along DHT receptors.
So I popped 3 HCG's preworkout and HOLY SHAT, I trained my balls off to the point that I literally had saliva coming out of my mouth as I did sets and moved from station to station, set a pr in volume training, thus far LOVING the effects of this product. OEP is definitely giving me a nutrient partritioning effect because after I ate 2000 calories of breakfast, I looked I had not eaten, there is one ingredient in there that is doing its job for sure, and the bacopa must be potent because instead of being stimmed I am rather settle, now if I train with a OEP, it gives me a tunnel vision sort of focus, its different than all other stims I have tried. Everytime I use GPLC, not even OEP can stop my hunger cause all I want is FOOD after training, but it keeps me lean and fluid so NO complaints. Be careful with OEP, cause it DEHYDRATES one FAST, I learned the hard way LOL, I was peeing dark yellow almost orange at one point during Sambo training, I had to down water, HCGhenerate gives me sick energy. Can NOT wait for week 3 LOL!:bigok:
Your a supp stack master after my own heart.lol
Late, but subd.
Dave,
How do the ATP tabs compare to a top quality cordyceps such as in your Anabolic Edge ? Similarities? Differences?
How close is this to introduction at Nutraplanet or anywhere for that matter? This is something I would jump on and use as a staple.
how are finals treating you?
BRO, absolutely ACED them, I had some doubts about my physiology/kinsetics course, but God provided me with help, dopamine/testofen/fadogia helped as well lol.
CELEBRATION TIME BRO!! put something heavy on ur back and have fun!
Never did Sambo but Ive always had it in the back of my mind to learn.
Maybe when im older and i start doing martial arts for fun then young ambition ill take it up along with aikido.
Dave,
How do the ATP tabs compare to a top quality cordyceps such as in your Anabolic Edge ? Similarities? Differences?
How close is this to introduction at Nutraplanet or anywhere for that matter? This is something I would jump on and use as a staple.
Interesting, this serious WILL be a staple, I just wish you guys made a size with more servings, but my punching power even went up on this, I told bravoLima, that it should have been made without hesitation, its an awesome product and should be respected; I almost feel like send a sample to someone on AM to know how good these stuff.
Day 11
Second time using ATP tabs; I used it along side of creatine to see how it panned out, very synergestic, however DRINK WATER, my lips were chapped after started to train, I had to keep drinking water, those ATP tabs are no joke, and in my opinion do WELL on their own without creatine. I killed the squats today, endurnace has been amazing off this stack, I have been having MAJOR insomnia, can not fall asleep till morning LOL. Thank God I have no class LOL!
Definitely got bloated from combining creatine along ATP tabs, also blood pressure went up. I got real red during training and at one point noticed that I had a shortage of breath during a set, after I checked and I had a slight nose bleed. Nothing brutal but again I will drink water and plenty of it. Energy is great of those ATP tabs, I can not wait for the sale. I also notice that I get fuller off this stuff, legit size gain.
OEP may have slowed down hunger a bit as of today, but not that bad. Definitely working, fat loss in certain areas are appearant, its doing a great job on my abs that is for sure, shoulders, oh and legs too.
There is no doubt you can use ATP tabs independent of creatine. When combining the teo i would go easy on the dosage. If you are taking 2 a day I would cut it to one a day. These things are no joke just have to figure out the dosage that is right for you based on the other supplements you are taking. We have people getting freaky strong on ATP tabs.
I'm ready to get my "Freak" on
NO DOUBT, strength and size have been most appearant, I am only using 1 tab LOL, I wonder what 2 does, guys should I go 2 tabs?
Looks solid bro, very glad to see you doing Great, if strength and size is mounting i wouldn’t push for 2 tabs, longevity is key, (if it isn’t broken then why fix it) as of late each time I notice freaky strength gains, i had to check myself down and maintain that rythm, back in the youthful days i would do the opposite, push more and more to a point of getting injured, but then again its human nature to be greedy![]()
Day 11
Second time using ATP tabs; I used it along side of creatine to see how it panned out, very synergestic, however DRINK WATER, my lips were chapped after started to train, I had to keep drinking water, those ATP tabs are no joke, and in my opinion do WELL on their own without creatine. I killed the squats today, endurnace has been amazing off this stack, I have been having MAJOR insomnia, can not fall asleep till morning LOL. Thank God I have no class LOL!
Definitely got bloated from combining creatine along ATP tabs, also blood pressure went up. I got real red during training and at one point noticed that I had a shortage of breath during a set, after I checked and I had a slight nose bleed. Nothing brutal but again I will drink water and plenty of it. Energy is great of those ATP tabs, I can not wait for the sale. I also notice that I get fuller off this stuff, legit size gain.
OEP may have slowed down hunger a bit as of today, but not that bad. Definitely working, fat loss in certain areas are appearant, its doing a great job on my abs that is for sure, shoulders, oh and legs too.
Day 11
Second time using ATP tabs; I used it along side of creatine to see how it panned out, very synergestic, however DRINK WATER, my lips were chapped after started to train, I had to keep drinking water, those ATP tabs are no joke, and in my opinion do WELL on their own without creatine. I killed the squats today, endurnace has been amazing off this stack, I have been having MAJOR insomnia, can not fall asleep till morning LOL. Thank God I have no class LOL!
Definitely got bloated from combining creatine along ATP tabs, also blood pressure went up. I got real red during training and at one point noticed that I had a shortage of breath during a set, after I checked and I had a slight nose bleed. Nothing brutal but again I will drink water and plenty of it. Energy is great of those ATP tabs, I can not wait for the sale. I also notice that I get fuller off this stuff, legit size gain.
OEP may have slowed down hunger a bit as of today, but not that bad. Definitely working, fat loss in certain areas are appearant, its doing a great job on my abs that is for sure, shoulders, oh and legs too.
what type of creatine did you use and at what dose?
I'd try adding some good quality celery seed extract and about 3-4 grams of taurine pre-2 taps of ATP tabs as I'm pretty sure it is the high dose adenosine 5’-triphosphate that increased BP. Get the positives without the downside.
Bro potassium gluconate is what you need to balance out the salt bond, and 2 banans during the day, also drink plenty of water.
I once took some atp capsules from Swanson, but it didn't do ****. they also claimed that it was pure ATP (in softgel). So why should this be different?
Yep. You're correct as standard Peak ATP can't get through for absorbtion. But if you have any left try taking it with something like Sustain Alpha, quercetin, and bioperine and most will get through -- BIG difference. Or you could just buy Palo Alto's sublingual delivery at $12.
I once took some atp capsules from Swanson, but it didn't do ****. they also claimed that it was pure ATP (in softgel). So why should this be different?
Andrew, do you think you are looking at permanent strength gains here, even after the discontinued use of the apt tabs?
Andrew, I know you pretty much workout 7 days a week but, I only lift 3 days and are these taken everyday or just on workout days?
so, if i took atp tab's by themselves with no complimentary supps, would i still get good results? and would i get side effects-my concern with this is it sounds like a ph-the ph is cheap, but when you add all the supporting supps including pct you run into big cash.
Bro, by itself, LEGIT. Best thing out there for automatic strength/endurance/fullness increase. Not to mention the fact that the effects last longer than 24 hours which to me is mind boggling, literally I have stocked up on it through trades and purchases. This stuff is the real deal, I can not wait till people try it and find it better than creatine mono.
so the bp and bloating supps are not neccessary?
Nah, just drink water well spaced out, maybe a banana as well prior to usage.