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Getting My Competitive Edge with CEL! (M1,4ADD and P-Mag) [CEL Sponsored]

[SIZE=+3]Day 26-September 6-Hams/Calves[/SIZE]​

Supplements:
M1,4ADD-120 mg split into 4 doses- 8am, 12am, 4pm, 8pm
P-Mag-50 mg split into 2 doses-8am, 4pm
Formestane-4 squirts (100mg) split into 2 doses- 8am, 8pm
400mg SAMe-upon waking
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-8 caps with bedtime shake


[SIZE=+2]Hams/Traps/Calves[/SIZE]​

SLDLs from box-225x12, 225x12, 275x10, 275x10

High Stance Leg Press-670x15, 670x15, 760x12, 760x12

DB Shrugs-12x100's, 12x100's, 12x110's, 12x110's

Prone Ham Curls-12x110, 12x110, 12x110

Calf Death on Leg Press-
1 set of 15 slow, full motion.....then quick pumps till failure
2 sets of 8 slow, full motion.....both feet on positive, alternate single negatives
3 sets of 10 slow, full motion....bounce after each set to failure

Thoughts
Back pumps were tolerable today, I downed about 7.5g of taurine caps pre-workout. Workout felt good, the switch to higher reps has been rough, since I've been cranking out low reps with heavy weight for so long.

This week is going to be kinda stressful, starting a new job tuesday, it's kind of a corporate thing, which I've never done before, so I'm gonna have to just wing it on meals for the first day or two, until I figure out how best to do it. I will figure it out tho.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 27-Sept 7-Arms/Forearms[/SIZE]​

Supplements:
P-Mag-8am, 5pm x 2
Formestane-50mg at 8am, 50mg a 8p
400mg SAMe-8am
CEL Cycle Assist-8 caps at 2pm
Shock Therapy-Pre-Workout
Storm, Intra-Aid-Intra-Workout
Orange Triad, 4g Flax Oil-With Meals 1 and 4

[SIZE=+2]Arms/Forearms[/SIZE]​

Superset 1
BB Close Grip-225x12, 255x10, 285x10, drop to 245x8
BB Straight Bar Curl-12x75, 10x85, 10x85, drop to 12x65

Superset 2
V-Handle Pushdowns-10x205, 10x205, 10x205, drop to 12x175
DB Hammer Curls-12x40's, 10x45's, 8x45's, drop to 10x35's

Superset 3
DB Kickbacks-10x25, 10x25
DB Concentration Curls-10x30, 10x30

Superset 4
D-Handle Cable Extensions-12x60, 12x60
High Pulley Curls-10x60, 10x60

Superset 5
Reverse EZ Bar Curls-12x60, 12x60, 10x80
Wrist Curls with straight bar-12x60, 12x60, 12x60

Ab Work

Thoughts
I forgot my remaining 8 M14ADD pills at home, so I'm just gonna transition into P-Mag solo a few days early. I'm kinda happy, no more 4 doses a day. I will be doing one P-mag in the morning, and then 2 after work pre-workout, and taking my cycle assist at lunch.

I really liked M14ADD, but my appetite was starting to taper off, and I was having trouble keeping up the pace at the dinner table. For these last two weeks I will probably be eating more of a recomp style diet, plenty of protein, low fat, and carbs as needed, but definately keeping the cals a bit in excess. I hit 238 this morning, and I wanna try and stay there and dry it out/firm it up a bit. We will see how things go.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 29-Sept 9-Shoulders/Abs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]237.5lbs[/SIZE]​


Supplements:
P-Mag-2x 8am, 5pm
Formestane-50mg at 8am, 50mg a 8p
400mg SAMe-8am
CEL Cycle Assist-4 caps at 2pm, 4 caps at 9pm
Shock Therapy-Pre-Workout
Storm, Intra-Aid-Intra-Workout
Orange Triad, 4g Flax Oil-With Meals 1 and 4

[SIZE=+2]Shoulders[/SIZE]​

BB Shoulder Press-225x8, 265x6, [SIZE=+4]305x3[/SIZE], 185x10

DB Side Laterals-8x35's, 8x35's, 8x35's, 8x40's
Superset with
Heavy Side Partials-8x60's, 8x60's, 8x60's

DB Rear Laterals-10x30's, 10x30's, 8x35's, 8x35's

Smith Machine Upright Rows-10x95, 10x95, 10x95
Superset With
Smith Machine Behind The Back Press-8x150, 8x150, 8x150

Ab Work

Thoughts
305 for 3....that's all I gotta say. I was hoping to get it for one, but got it for 2 untouched, and the spotter nudged it on 3. Felt great.

My appetite had tanked the last 3 days, and I had gotten kinda stopped up, but I drank two 10g doses of metamucil for the last 2 days, and my appetite is back and I'm feeling great. I'm takin in about 1.5 to 2 gal of water a day now, which is helping alot. But over those three days I still forced down enough food to maintain weight, and definately enough protein. I have definately dried out a bit since stopping the M14ADD, so I'm lookin forward to seeing what these last two weeks bring.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 30-Sept 10-Quads/Calves[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]238.5lbs[/SIZE]​

Meal 1
25g whey, 3 eggs, 4 pieces of wheat bread, 2 kraft singles, honey and peanut butter on 2 pieces of toast, banana

Meal 2
2 Promax Protein Bars

Meal 3
Chipotle Steak Burrito

Meal 4
10oz grilled chicken, 1/4 pound whole wheat pasta

Meal 5 pre workout
50g whey, 2 pieces of wheat toast with honey, banana

Meal 6 post workout
50g whey, 1.25 cups oats, banana

Meal 7
Not sure yet, probably 3/4 tub of cottage cheese and some whole wheat toast, gotta get up early tomorrow and don't wanna cook alot.


Supplements:
P-Mag-2x 6am, 5pm
Formestane-50mg at 645am, 50mg a 8p
400mg SAMe-8am
CEL Cycle Assist-4 caps at 2pm, 4 caps at 9pm
Shock Therapy-Pre-Workout
Storm, Intra-Aid-Intra-Workout
Orange Triad, 4g Flax Oil-With Meals 1 and 4

[SIZE=+2]Quads/Calves[/SIZE]​

BB Squats-315x8, [SIZE=+1]355x6[/SIZE], [SIZE=+2]375x5[/SIZE], [SIZE=+3]405x4[/SIZE]

Leg Press-720x15, 810x12, 810x12, 900x12

Wide Stance Smith Squats(ATG)-185x10, 185x10, 185x10

Leg Extensions-170x12, 200x10, 230x10

Calf Presses on Leg Press-450x20, 540x15, 540x15, 630x10

Thoughts

[SIZE=+2]WTF...Another Huge PR[/SIZE]. Back pumps were non-existant today, I had about 1.5 gal of water all day, and then downed 7g taurine with my shock therapy. 3 weeks ago there is no way in hell I could have even done 405 for 1. I'm obviously pretty jacked up about the last two nights of lifting, can't wait to see what the rest of the days bring. I'm still eating just as big as I've been lifting too, making the most of these last 12 days.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 31-Sept 11-Back[/SIZE]


Supplements:
P-Mag-75mg- 830am x 2, 7pm
Formestane-100mg divided into 2 doses- 8am on tops of feet, 8pm 1 squirt each shoulder
400mg SAMe-upon waking
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-1230p, 1030p

[SIZE=+2]Back[/SIZE]​

Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns-180x10, 195x8, 205x8, 225x8, drop set of 150x12

Bar in Corner T-Bar Rows-10x125, 8x150, 8x150, 6x175

BB Shrugs-315x10, 365x8, 365x8, 405x8

Close Grip Underhand Lat Pulldowns-160x10, 175x8, 185x8

Seated Cable Rows-180x10, 200x8, 200x8

Thoughts-

Good Workouts. Gotta go to campus for the buckeyes game. GO BUCKS!!
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 33-August 13-Chest[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]
239.0lbs​
[/SIZE]

Supplements:
P-Mag-50mg at 9am, 25mg at 8pm
Formestane-50mg at 9am, 50mg at 9pm
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-4 caps at 12pm, 4 caps at 4pm

[SIZE=+3]
Chest​
[/SIZE]

Flat BB Bench-295x8, 325x6, 355x4, 385x2

Incline BB Bench-205x12, 225x10, 265x8, 295x6

Flat DB Flys-12x45's, 10x55's, 10x555's

Cable Crossovers-12x120, 10x150, 10x180

Dips-12, 10



Thoughts
Big PR for me today. Looking back on it tho, I think I sold myself a little short, I shoulda thrown 405 on the bar. Oh well, next time. I definitely am starting to harden up, especially throughout my arms and chest, and even in my legs a bit. Only 9 more days :(
 
This is quite something to have gone up 20 pounds in such a short time + all that added strength and cycle still has about 10 days left. I am a bit envious :p
 
Jaryu said:
This is quite something to have gone up 20 pounds in such a short time + all that added strength and cycle still has about 10 days left. I am a bit envious :p
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Thanks, I will be eating hard during PCT to keep that weight, and lifting heavy to keep the strength. I'm interested to see how PCT goes with the way I am doing it, in the past I've lost some strength and a bit of weight.

silverSurfer said:
Will you be posting pictures? I'm interested in your results.
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Yea, there will be post cycle and post pct pics.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 34-September 14-Hams/Calves[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]
237.2lbs​
[/SIZE]

Supplements:
P-Mag-50mg at 9am, 25mg at 8pm
Formestane-50mg at 9am, 50mg at 9pm
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-4 caps at 12pm, 4 caps at 4pm

[SIZE=+3]
Hams/Calves- PR's Keep Comin'!​
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Deadlift-315x8, 375x6, 415x4, 495x2

Leg Press-810x15, 900x12, 990x12, 1080x10

Prone Ham Curls-130x12, 140x10, 150x10, drop set of 90x20

BB Lunges-80x10, 80x9

Standing Calf Raise-90x15, 90x15, 130x12, 150x10,

Seated Calf Raise-90x10, 90x10, 90x10

Thoughts
The weight dropped because I had been weighing on my uncle's scale, and I wanted to use the scale I originally weighed on to see where I was at.

495 for 2 on deadlift is a gigantic PR for me...my previous best was 435 for 1, and that was an ugly struggle. In comparison, the 495 went up easy, well, as easily as 495 pounds can be lifted, haha. I tried 535, but gravity won that one.

I'm definitely starting to harden up, the first place I notice it is in my shoulders and chest, my shoulders start to cap off at the bottom and my pecs get that nice cut underneath. Progress is being made
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Nice deadlift. I can't wait to get back to them. Most I ever pulled was 525. Do u use chalk, gloves, or what?
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I'm almost embarrassed to say it, but I use straps. I can't possibly expect my forearms to be as strong as all the muscles in a deadlift, and I don't wanna sacrifice weight because my grip sucks...tho I am working on it, I use straps now only when I really have to.
 
Ya don't become dependent on them thats all. Although if I went and deadlifted right now I would leave with a trail of blood from my hands.
 
escholar05 said:
I'm almost embarrassed to say it, but I use straps. I can't possibly expect my forearms to be as strong as all the muscles in a deadlift, and I don't wanna sacrifice weight because my grip sucks...tho I am working on it, I use straps now only when I really have to.
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I wuz just commenting on the same thing today, when i wuz doing BB shrugs. I got a strong grip, but can only hold on for so many reps, traps could still keep going but forearms cramp up, like i been riding mxc for 3 hrs str8, arm pump like mad.
 
Great log and good success with your cycle l am interested as l am using p-mag and tren for my cycle and l am getting great strength and body reshaping gains as well. Your doing a good job well done mate.
 
escholar05 said:
I'm almost embarrassed to say it, but I use straps. I can't possibly expect my forearms to be as strong as all the muscles in a deadlift, and I don't wanna sacrifice weight because my grip sucks...tho I am working on it, I use straps now only when I really have to.
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I use straps with several exercises after getting tendonitis a few years back
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 36-September 16-Arms[/SIZE]


Supplements:
P-Mag-50mg at 9am, 25mg at 8pm
Formestane-50mg at 9am, 50mg at 9pm
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-4 caps at 12pm, 4 caps at 4pm

[SIZE=+3]
Arms- WTF?!?!​
[/SIZE]

Decline Close Grip Bench-295x8, 335x6, 365x5, 405x3

Straight BB Curl-105x8, 125x6, 115x8, 95x12

V-Bar Cable Pressdowns-12x205(stack), 12x205, 12x205, drop set of 180x20

DB Hammer Curls-10x40's, 8x45's, 8x50's, drop set of 15x30's

Tricep Bench Dips-15x135, 15x135, 15x135

EZ Bar Preacher Curls-12x75, 12x75, 12x75

Behind The Back Wrist Curls-85x12, 85x12, 85x12
Superset With
EZ Bar Reverse Curls-70x12, 70x12, 70x12

Thoughts
Not sure where 405 came from, felt good though. I had to take yesterday off due to moving, just had no time. So I think I'm gonna take tomorrow off and start with shoulders again on friday. I'm really starting to lean up, but I'm not really losing any weight. Zero side effects whatsoever, BP normal, I feel great, my libido is scary high, appetite isn't crazy, but it's definately elevated.

The only problem I've had really is that the topical Formestane dried the crap outta the skin on my shoulders, and now the skin is dry red and itchy a bit, but I've stopped putting it on my shoulders and started moisturizing the redness, so hopefully it goes away in a day or two.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 38-September 18-Shoulders/Abs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]
238lbs​
[/SIZE]

Supplements:
P-Mag-50mg at 9am, 25mg at 8pm
Formestane-50mg at 9am, 50mg at 9pm
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-4 caps at 12pm, 4 caps at 4pm

[SIZE=+3]
Shoulders GOT IT!​
[/SIZE]

BB Shoulder Press-225x6, 255x6, 275x6, [SIZE=+4]315x2[/SIZE], 185x12

Seated Side Laterals-12x30's, 10x35's, 10x35's, 8x40's

BB Upright Rows-85x12, 95x10, 105x10

Rear DB Laterals-12x30's, 10x35's, 10x35's

Behind the Neck BB Press-135x15, 155x12, 135x15

Ab Work

Thoughts
This will be my last 8 day rotation on cycle, so I figured I'd better go big. My goal for the summer was to do 315 on shoulder press, 405 on bench, 435 on squats, and 500 on deads. You will see all 4 of those numbers fall this next rotation. It was pretty funny, it was like the 2nd day all the freshmen were all moved in, so the gym was packed. Not being full of myself, but I would venture a guess that none of them had ever seen anyone do something like that, they were all pretty wide eyed. Felt good, and the 185x12 rep out at the end finished it off nicely.

These last 8 days I will be goin big, so stay tuned.
 
Don't be afraid to use your thighs, back, pretty much anywhere for the form. I'm personally not convinced that there has to be an application strategy IMO.

315 for shoulder press is sick. I'm pretty happy with putting a plate on there :run: :laugh2:
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 39-Sept 1-Quads/Calves[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]238lbs[/SIZE]​

P-Mag-50mg at 9am, 25mg at 8pm
Formestane-50mg at 9am, 50mg at 9pm
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-4 caps at 12pm, 4 caps at 4pm


[SIZE=+2]Quads/Calves[/SIZE]​

BB Squats-295x8, 345x6, 405x6, 455x fail, 315x12, 315x12

Leg Press-10x900, 10x990, 8x1080, 6x1170, 20x720

Leg Extension-150x12, 170x12, 190x10, 210x10, 230x8

Leg Press Calf Press-450x12, 450x12, 540x10, 540x10, 630x8

Thoughts

Gravity finally won a battle. 455 might have been a little ambitious, but go big or go home as they say. Just couldn't get out of the hole with it. On the plus side, 405x6 is a rep PR, and two sets of 315 for 12 are just plain crazy. After the squats I was pretty dead, so I kept the workout nice and basic, but still kicked my ass. Looks like I'm gonna be having a pretty large dinner tonight, lol.
 
celc5 said:
Don't be afraid to use your thighs, back, pretty much anywhere for the form. I'm personally not convinced that there has to be an application strategy IMO.

315 for shoulder press is sick. I'm pretty happy with putting a plate on there :run: :laugh2:
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Yea, I've been moving it around alot more and moisturizing the areas that I rotate away from, and the redness is starting to go away.

315 on shoulder press actually felt surprisingly alot better than I thought. However, I did feel like I got ran over by a bus this morning....as I'm sure I will again tomorrow, haha.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 31-Sept 11-Back[/SIZE]



Supplements:
P-Mag-75mg- 830am x 2, 7pm
Formestane-100mg divided into 2 doses- 8am on tops of feet, 8pm 1 squirt each upper chest
400mg SAMe-upon waking
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-1230p, 1030p

[SIZE=+2]Back[/SIZE]​

Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns-180x12, 190x10, 190x10, 210x8, 230x6

Bent Over BB Rows-185x10, 185x10, 205x10, 205x8

Hammer Seated Shrugs-12x180, 12x180, 10x230

Hammer Close Grip Underhand Lat Pulls-12x90, 8x180, 8x180, 15x140

Behind The Neck Pulldowns-130x10, 130x10, 115x15

Thoughts-
Rec centers are starting to fill up with freshman again, looks like I'm in for a frustrating two weeks, lol. Still feelin good, 4 more days left. Looks like the weight has topped out at 237-238, but I've definately recomped a bit and stayed at that weight.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 42-September 22-Chest[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]
238.0lbs​
[/SIZE]

Supplements:
P-Mag-50mg at 9am, 25mg at 8pm
Formestane-50mg at 9am, 50mg at 9pm
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-4 caps at 12pm, 4 caps at 4pm

[SIZE=+3]
Chest​
[/SIZE]

Flat BB Bench-295x6, 335x6, 365x6, [SIZE=+3]405x1[/SIZE], 225x24(<----nice little rep out...NFL combine here I come, lol)

Incline BB Bench-225x12, 225x10, 205x10, 205x10

Flat DB Flys-12x45's, 10x55's, 8x55's

Cable Crossover-100x8, 80x10, 80x12

Ab Work

Thoughts-
405 flat bench is pretty much the PR I've been wanting for the last year and a half, so getting it the last week of this cycle was pretty damn cool. And the 225x24 rep out immediately following wasn't all that bad either :cool:. I've obviously have made some pretty drastic strength gains on this cycle, and as a result I have definitely become alot thicker and more dense. I feel like next time I step on stage it will not only be with more muscle, but it will also be more quality, dense muscle as well. Two more days, I will probably do update pics at the end of the cycle, and then again after PCT.
 
[SIZE=+3]Day 43&44-September 23&24-Hams/Calves & Arms[/SIZE]


Supplements:
P-Mag-50mg at 9am, 25mg at 8pm
Formestane-50mg at 9am, 50mg at 9pm
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout
Cycle Assist-4 caps at 12pm, 4 caps at 4pm

[SIZE=+3]
Hams/Calves​
[/SIZE]

Deadlifts-315x8, 365x6, 405x6, 455x4, 495x2

Leg Press-990x10, 1080x10, 1170x8, 1260x6, 810x20

Prone Leg Curls-130x10, 140x8, 150x8, 160x8

Standing Calf Curls-110x15, 130x12, 150x10, 150x10

[SIZE=+3]
Arms​
[/SIZE]

Close Grip BB Bench-275x10, 315x8, 365x7, 405x2, 225x15

Chins (2 neutral, 2 close)-12, 12, 10, 10

BB Skull Crushers-10x95, 8x115, 8x135, 8x115, 10x95

BB Curls-10x95, 8x105, 10x85, 15x75

V-Bar Pressdowns-12x205(stack), 12x205, 12x205

DB Concentration Curls-10x35, 8x40, 12x30

Reverse EZ Bar Curl-10x70, 8x80, 6x90

Thoughts
Last day of the cycle was today. I will put up some update pics and some thoughts tomorrow. I'm goin to bed now tho, I'm wiped from this week.
 
[SIZE=+3]
Day 2 of PCT- Shoulders​
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Supplements-
Formestane- 50mg at 7a, 50mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

Taken this morning right after I woke up(238.0 lbs)-
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[SIZE=+2]Shoulders/Abs[/SIZE]​
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BB Shoulder Press-205x12, 225x10, 225x8, 255x5, 185x12

DB Rear Delt Laterals-10x30's, 10x30's, 8x35's, 8x35's

DB Side Laterals-10x35's, 8x40's, 6x45's, 15x25's

Smith Machine Upright Rows-135x10, 155x8, 155x8

Rear Delt Machine-10x70, 10x70, 10x70
Superset with
Cybex Neutral Grip Shoulder Press-10x170, 10x170, 10x170

Ab Work
 
[SIZE=+3]
Day 3 of PCT- Quads​
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Supplements-
Formestane- 50mg at 7a, 50mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]238.5 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Quads[/SIZE]​

BB Squats-275x10, 315x10, 355x10, 405x6(Rep PR!), 225x25

Leg Press- each set I did the first number of reps, rested 25 secs w/o getting up, then did the second number-990x10+7, 900x10+8, 810x13+6

Feet Together ATG Smith Squats-185x12, 225x10, 225x10

Leg Extensions(slow, pause at top)-170x12, 170x12, 190x10, 190x10

Thoughts
Usually on my 3rd day of PCT I feel weak in the gym and have no libido, Right now I feel pretty damn good, and neither of the aforementioned things. Had a pretty rediculous leg session today, the quasi-rest pause sets on leg press just beat me up. Feelin good.
 
[SIZE=+3]
Day 4 of PCT- Back/Calves​
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Supplements-
Formestane- 50mg at 7a, 50mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]238.5 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Back/Calves[/SIZE]​

BB Bent Over Rows-185x12, 225x10, 245x8, 245x8, From the Floor-185x12, 185x12

Assisted Wide Grip Pullups (20lbs assist)12, 12, 11, 12, 7(no assist)

Bar in Corner T-Bar Rows-12x125, 10x150, 10x150, 8x175

BB Shrugs-14x315, 12x315, 10x365, 8x405

Underhand Close Grip Pulldowns-165x12, 175x12, 185x10, 205x10

Wide Grip T-Bar Rows-115x12, 115x12, 130x10

Calf Press on Leg Press-20x450, 20x450, 15x540, 15x540, 2 sets of bounces to failure with 540

Thoughts-
Volume got a tad bit out of control today, but my back was feelin great, so I just kept goin. The BB Rows from the floor really felt good and hit the middle of my back nicely. To be honest, I still feel almost like I'm still on cycle. Weight is staying constant, appetite is still really good, nothing bad to report.
 
[SIZE=+3]
Day 6 of PCT- Chest/Abs​
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Supplements-
Formestane- 50mg at 7a, 50mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.4 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Chest/Abs[/SIZE]​

Incline BB Bench-225x10, 255x10, 295x10(What?), 335x5(Huh?), 185x18 (That was dumb)

Flat BB Bench (super-wide grip, basically to failure)225x14, 225x11, 225x8, 225x7

15 Degree Flys-10x50's, 10x50's, 10x50's

Cable Crossovers-12x120, 10x140, 10x140, drop set of 20x100

Ab Work

Thoughts-
Still feelin good, weight is stayin on, and strength still feels great. The ATD seems to have blunted the crazy Formestane-fueled sex drive, which is a mixed blessing. At least now I don't have the urge to jump on every female walking down the street, makes it easier to concentrate in class, haha.

Also, I am definitely leaning out, got some vascularity poppin in on the arms and forearms, and good cuts in the deltoids. My midsection feels harder as well.
 
Whenever I want to feel weak, I read this log. Lots of awesome here, good luck in the rest of PCT
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Very nice log. Thanks to u I decided to pick up 3 bottles of Pmag.
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Thanks man, you will not at all regret your purchase. I think I may have to do some damage to the credit card before all that stuff disappears.

UnrealMachine said:
Whenever I want to feel weak, I read this log. Lots of awesome here, good luck in the rest of PCT
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Haha, I'm gonna take that as a compliment. I never really felt like I was all that strong until about halfway thru this cycle, but I really feel like with the help of this cycle I've acheived a certain level of "freaky" as far as the strength aspect goes. I guess the extra almost 20 pounds of weight wasn't too bad either :scratchchin:
 
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Day 7 of PCT- Hams/Traps/Calves​
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Supplements-
Formestane- 50mg at 7a, 50mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.4 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Hams/Traps/Calves[/SIZE]​

SLDL's-225x10, 275x10, 275x8, 325x8

Prone Ham Curls-130x10, 130x10, 150x8, 150x8, 110x14

High Stance Leg Press-900x12, 990x10, 990x10, 1080x7

BB Shrugs-315x15, 315x15, 395x10

Standing Calf Raises-90x15, 90x15, 125x10, 125x10, 110x 2 sets of bounces to failure

Thoughts-
Feel good and strong still. Sex drive seems to have dropped off the radar, which I'm not very happy about. I kinda knew it was gonna happen with the ATD. It may just be back to normal from the formestane and P-mag levels though and feels that far down, it's hard tellin. But thats enough about that, haha.
 
escholar05 said:
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Day 8 of PCT- Arms/Forearms/Abs​
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Supplements-
Formestane- 25mg at 7a, 25mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.0 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Arms/Forearms/Abs[/SIZE]​

Close Grip Decline Bench-225x15, 275x12, 315x10, 365x7, 225x20

BB Curls-8x95, 8x95, 6x105, 6x105, 12x85

V-Bar Pressdowns-190x12, 215x12, 235x10, 250x10, 160x14

DB Hammer Curls-10x35's, 10x40's, 8x45's, 8x45's, 12x30's

BB Wrist Curls-10x80, 10x80, 10x80

EZ Bar Wrist Curls-10x75, 10x85, 8x85

Ab Work

Thoughts
Feelin good. Last week of formestane, I'm gonna miss that stuff. Weight holding, but seeing some additional vascularity in arms.
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Day 10 of PCT- Shoulders/Abs​
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Supplements-
Formestane- 25mg at 7a, 25mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.8 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Shoulders/Abs[/SIZE]​

BB Shoulder Press-225x10, 225x10, 255x8, 295x4, 185x19

Seated DB Side Laterals-10x30's, 8x35's, 8x35's, 8x40's

High Pulls-135x8, 155x6, 135x8

Seated DB Rear Laterals-10x25's, 10x25's, 8x30's, 8x35's

BB Shrugs-15x275, 15x275, 15x275

Behind the Back BB Press-135x10, 135x10, 155x8

Thoughts
Nothing to report really, still feeling good and strong. I'm curious to see how things go once I'm completely done with the formestane. That stuff is like gold I'm pretty sure, haha.
 
[SIZE=+3]
Day 11 of PCT- Back​
[/SIZE]

Supplements-
Formestane- 25mg at 7a, 25mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.5 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Back[/SIZE]​

BB Yates Rows-185x12, 205x10, 225x8, 235x8, 245x8

Assisted Pullups-8x(-40), 10x(-50), 12x(-55), 12x(-55), 5x(-50)<------4 second holds

Seated Cable Rows-180x12, 200x10, 200x10, drop set of 170x8

Underhand Close Grip Pulldowns-145x12, 165x10, 180x8, drop set of 150x8

BB Shrugs-275x15, 315x12, 365x10, 405x9


Thoughts
Really liked the Yates rows. Lats and upper back will definitely be sore tomorrow. Sorry these updates have been kind of boring, but I guess in PCT boring is good.
 
[SIZE=+3]
Day 12 of PCT- Quads/Calves​
[/SIZE]

Supplements-
Formestane- 25mg at 7a, 25mg at 8p
Supress C- 2 squirts at 7a, 2 squirts at 8p
PCT Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
SNS Liver Assist-3 caps with breakfast, 3 caps with dinner
Orange triad, 3 g flax seed oil-with breakfast and dinner
SNS Inhibit E-2 caps with bedtime meal
Universal Shock Therapy, Storm, Intra Aid-Pre/Intra Workout

[SIZE=+2]239.5 lbs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]Quads/Calves[/SIZE]​

BB Squats-275x12, 315x10, 365x8, 415x2(not really what I was hopin for)

Leg Press-900x12, 990x10, 1090x8, 810x15

Wide Stance Smith Squats-225x10, 235x8, 245x8

Leg Extensions-150x12, 180x10, 200x10

Calf Press on Leg Press-3sets x 540 lbs x all to failure

Seated Calf Raise-3 sets x 70 lbs x to failure

Thoughts

Not really on top of my game today. I haven't been sleepin well lately, I think I'm starting to get a bit of a cold. I actually left work early today, so I think just getting into the gym was good enough...I'm gonna rest up tomorrow and hopefully will feel better.
 
Sounds like you're maintaining your (ridiculous) gains quite easily here. Good deal. Would you say that m14add and pmag are similar to any other ph's/ds's that you've tried?
 
wontstop985 said:
Sounds like you're maintaining your (ridiculous) gains quite easily here. Good deal. Would you say that m14add and pmag are similar to any other ph's/ds's that you've tried?
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I've done H-drol, and then P-Plex/Trenadrol, Tren/Epi, and now this. I really can't compare this to really anything I've run. I would put this as the best I've done for sure, with H-drol as a close second. P-Plex/Trenadrol killed my appetite and made it hard to make gains, Tren/Epi erased my sex drive for 6 weeks, but H-drol gave me good gains while I leaned out. But for all out mass, this cycle was best for sure. I think M1,4add and H-drol would make a hell of a run, I may have to stock up...
 
escholar05 said:
I've done H-drol, and then P-Plex/Trenadrol, Tren/Epi, and now this. I really can't compare this to really anything I've run. I would put this as the best I've done for sure, with H-drol as a close second. P-Plex/Trenadrol killed my appetite and made it hard to make gains, Tren/Epi erased my sex drive for 6 weeks, but H-drol gave me good gains while I leaned out. But for all out mass, this cycle was best for sure. I think M1,4add and H-drol would make a hell of a run, I may have to stock up...
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I love comparisons like this. I agree 100% that Hdrol was the biggest bang with the least amount of sides in comparison.
 
celc5 said:
I love comparisons like this. I agree 100% that Hdrol was the biggest bang with the least amount of sides in comparison.
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I agree h-drol was awesome, and I will for sure run it again. However, M1,4add was completely rediculous in how fast it took effect, what it did to my appetite, what it did to my strength. I think a M1,4add front end with an H-drol back end would pretty much be the end all.
 
escholar05 said:
I agree h-drol was awesome, and I will for sure run it again. However, M1,4add was completely rediculous in how fast it took effect, what it did to my appetite, what it did to my strength. I think a M1,4add front end with an H-drol back end would pretty much be the end all.
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Very interesting idea. What about a stack? I'm not saying that's a great idea, just brain storming is all.
 
celc5 said:
Very interesting idea. What about a stack? I'm not saying that's a great idea, just brain storming is all.
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A bridge might have good possibilities. Or also an M1,4ADD bridge into E-Stane.

M1,4ADD is one of my favorite products that we made, but it never got the popularity of some of the others.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
A bridge might have good possibilities. Or also an M1,4ADD bridge into E-Stane.

M1,4ADD is one of my favorite products that we made, but it never got the popularity of some of the others.
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Ya didnt hear much about it until recently when Purus came out with M14-E which is M1,4ADD with an Epi clone. I picked 2 bottles up and now I am wishing I had picked up some M1,4ADD just in case I love it.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
but it never got the popularity of some of the others.
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I think a lot of people still don't know that this is a new batch with a legit source.

There were a lot of companies that never corrected the problem 2 years ago like you guys did. So I suspect that they're just overgeneralizing saying that all M14 is still bunk, when this is obviously legit and potent.
 
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