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CEL Reps! Are things business as usual and if so, How Long?

thebigt said:
sorry, man. just excited what you are going to come up with. you must have been planning this a long time, it took you over 2 years for the form/suppress c-hehe, just kidding. happy as hell this set back isn't going to keep you down long. best of luck, T
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Well, obviously it sucks, but we are trying to make the best of it.

Keep the ideas coming guys.
 
6-bromo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (its legal right)
some good AI
BCAA
LEUKIC version would be really cool
or gakic version as well nice and cheap
 
cotrisol blocker PILLS
 
Jasen said:
6-bromo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (its legal right)
some good AI
BCAA
LEUKIC version would be really cool
or gakic version as well nice and cheap
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I think the problem with 6-bromo has now been exposed for the most part that it degrades into 4AD, so no, that would not be legal if the degredation occurs.

Jasen said:
cotrisol blocker PILLS
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BAET is not as effective in pills, that is why we have Suppress-C.

IMO the best cortisol blocker in pill form is SNS's Reduce XT.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
Well, obviously it sucks, but we are trying to make the best of it.

Keep the ideas coming guys.
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ok, you asked for it: high dose beta alanine/cit mal/cissus/creatine magnesium, combo. all in doses high enough to be effective. all the combo products out now are grossly underdosed imo. those ingredients have great synergy, i have used them together many times with great results-well the creatine magnesium is new but i really like it.
 
the other was my pre-workout supp. now here is my test booster-agmatine/fadogia/trib alatus. maybe testofen could be included or subbed, it depends on price.
 
thebigt said:
the other was my pre-workout supp. now here is my test booster-agmatine/fadogia/trib alatus. maybe testofen could be included or subbed, it depends on price.
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There is so much controversy, or at least there was at one time, about sourcing Fadogia and what actually needed to be tested for to assure quality.
 
thebigt said:
the other was my pre-workout supp. now here is my test booster-agmatine/fadogia/trib alatus. maybe testofen could be included or subbed, it depends on price.
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what product did you use for the trib alatus? can i assume a dose of 1g of agmatine?
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
There is so much controversy, or at least there was at one time, about sourcing Fadogia and what actually needed to be tested for to assure quality.
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i remember that, that guy supreme or something. maybe sub the testofen?
 
rxp1997 said:
what product did you use for the trib alatus? can i assume a dose of 1g of agmatine?
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thermolife t-bol. the agmatine was man blueprint and yes it was 1000mg or 1 gm. primal male was the fadogia. agmatine stacked with fadogia was very worthwhile, adding trib alatus and or testofen would be very nice imo. of course adding td formestane makes everything better.
 
Hey, you CEL guys doing any work with Amino acids? I had researched quite a bit on amino acid roles in the production of human growth hormone. After that I ran some Amino Vol. (don't remember the brand) seemed effective.

I'd like to continue with my brand loyalty.
 
I'M STOKING UP!!! THIS IS BU**SHI* GOOD GOD MAN!!! just ordered another 200.00 of your product on other websites!! If people want some access to websites that still have there product line avalable plz private messge me and i'll be more that happy to tell you what i know! :afro:
 
Aaelael said:
I'M STOKING UP!!! THIS IS BU**SHI* GOOD GOD MAN!!! just ordered another 200.00 of your product on other websites!! If people want some access to websites that still have there product line avalable plz private messge me and i'll be more that happy to tell you what i know! :afro:
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just stay the hell away from my formestane, lol.
 
thebigt said:
just stay the hell away from my formestane, lol.
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hey i want to know how it has worked for the long hall vs. suppres - c. . . formestane i heard has a nasty kick back on heavy methyl cycle stacks. . .and knowledge??
 
Aaelael said:
hey i want to know how it has worked for the long hall vs. suppres - c. . . formestane i heard has a nasty kick back on heavy methyl cycle stacks. . .and knowledge??
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Ah, I'm wondering if that's what happened to me when I added that in to my E-stane run??? two days into the formestane add and I felt poisoned.

I stopped and jumped onto my PCT.
 
JazzV said:
Ah, I'm wondering if that's what happened to me when I added that in to my E-stane run??? two days into the formestane add and I felt poisoned.

I stopped and jumped onto my PCT.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
Aaelael said:
hey i want to know how it has worked for the long hall vs. suppres - c. . . formestane i heard has a nasty kick back on heavy methyl cycle stacks. . .and knowledge??
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JazzV said:
Ah, I'm wondering if that's what happened to me when I added that in to my E-stane run??? two days into the formestane add and I felt poisoned.

I stopped and jumped onto my PCT.
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Formestane is used on alot of different methylated cycles. You can find tons of logs and feedback on ours as well as older brands being used on methyl cycles.

Formestane is a completely different product than Suppress-C, so not sure what comparison is being looked for. Suppress-C is a cortisol control product.
 
it's a little odd. I tried the formestane out for a short period before my e-stane cycle to see how my body would react. On the formestane solo I had no trouble. A couple weeks later I started up E-Stane. Again the E-Stane worked well solo. on the third week in to my E-stane cycle I added the formestane That's when I started to feel off.

In all fairness I left out some information in my first post. I know I'll get some slack for this; but I had alcohol on cycle. I realize now that it was a mistake and would urge other prohormone users to avoid alcohol while on cycle.

Anyway I figured it was the alcohol that threw me off when taking E-stane and Formestane. But when I saw Aaelael's post it made me wonder if it was something else.
 
JazzV said:
it's a little odd. I tried the formestane out for a short period before my e-stane cycle to see how my body would react. On the formestane solo I had no trouble. A couple weeks later I started up E-Stane. Again the E-Stane worked well solo. on the third week in to my E-stane cycle I added the formestane That's when I started to feel off.

In all fairness I left out some information in my first post. I know I'll get some slack for this; but I had alcohol on cycle. I realize now that it was a mistake and would urge other prohormone users to avoid alcohol while on cycle.

Anyway I figured it was the alcohol that threw me off when taking E-stane and Formestane. But when I saw Aaelael's post it made me wonder if it was something else.
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yah i was reading some other posts about heavy methly cycles and they said the kick back was bad but alcohol and cycles don't miss so i'm assuming that whats going on but the kick back can happen as well
 
JazzV said:
it's a little odd. I tried the formestane out for a short period before my e-stane cycle to see how my body would react. On the formestane solo I had no trouble. A couple weeks later I started up E-Stane. Again the E-Stane worked well solo. on the third week in to my E-stane cycle I added the formestane That's when I started to feel off.

In all fairness I left out some information in my first post. I know I'll get some slack for this; but I had alcohol on cycle. I realize now that it was a mistake and would urge other prohormone users to avoid alcohol while on cycle.

Anyway I figured it was the alcohol that threw me off when taking E-stane and Formestane. But when I saw Aaelael's post it made me wonder if it was something else.
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first of all you frontloaded formestane for 2 weeks, got your estrogen levels low. and then you added epi? maybe if you had run the epi for 2 weeks and then added formestane you would have gotten better results. using formestane for 2 weeks and then adding epi was a bad decision in my opinion. i don't drink, but adding alcohol only fanned the fire. you have got to research these products, they are not snickers bars. take them seriously!!!
 
thebigt said:
first of all you frontloaded formestane for 2 weeks, got your estrogen levels low. and then you added epi? maybe if you had run the epi for 2 weeks and then added formestane you would have gotten better results. using formestane for 2 weeks and then adding epi was a bad decision in my opinion. i don't drink, but adding alcohol only fanned the fire. you have got to research these products, they are not snickers bars. take them seriously!!!
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this and Methyl + alcohol = poison :)
 
I most definately learned my lesson about alcohol and prohormone cycles. And trust me, after that experience, it's information I pass along at the front end of conversations.

Anyway to clear things up; I didn't add the E-stane to the formestane cycle. (I see my verbage is unclear.) Before i started the Estane cycle, well out in front, I tried out the formestane to see how my body would react. Several weeks after coming off my test run of Formestane, I began my E-stane cycle with a a formestane add after two weeks of E-stane.
 
:saroll:well i just picked up a how bunch of e-stane. . . and eq plex and some time next year i want to prepare a stacked cycle. . . possibly depending in how im feeling cause I'm preparing for a competition and i need to know how long these things can be detected in your system??? i was thinking m-drol eq plex since the plex isn't methyl or h-drol and e-stane. . . not sure i have some tren as well. . . anythoughts please let me know i have completely cycled an m-drol no problems and an h-drol. . . or should i wait!! I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY SO LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS!!! :outtahere:
 
Aaelael said:
:saroll:well i just picked up a how bunch of e-stane. . . and eq plex and some time next year i want to prepare a stacked cycle. . . possibly depending in how im feeling cause I'm preparing for a competition and i need to know how long these things can be detected in your system??? i was thinking m-drol eq plex since the plex isn't methyl or h-drol and e-stane. . . not sure i have some tren as well. . . anythoughts please let me know i have completely cycled an m-drol no problems and an h-drol. . . or should i wait!! I TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY SO LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS!!! :outtahere:
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What are the goals you are trying to achieve?
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
What are the goals you are trying to achieve?
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well I'm competiting next year in a contest. . . so i'm currently doing a cutting cycle with h-drol for lean gains. . .but my next cycle i want mass but little water retention. . . .the e-stane i know is for strength and lean gains but i was hoping for some insight. . . I love m-drol with the gains but its pretty bulky. . . I want size but also lookin to increase vascularity and maintain strength with my PCT as well!!!:saroll:
 
Aaelael said:
well I'm competiting next year in a contest. . . so i'm currently doing a cutting cycle with h-drol for lean gains. . .but my next cycle i want mass but little water retention. . . .the e-stane i know is for strength and lean gains but i was hoping for some insight. . . I love m-drol with the gains but its pretty bulky. . . I want size but also lookin to increase vascularity and maintain strength with my PCT as well!!!:saroll:
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I should have been more clear. For the cycle that you were asking for for assistance with, what is the goal of that cycle? I want to be able to give you the best response I can, but wanted to make sure I steer you the right direction.
 
Aaelael said:
well I'm competiting next year in a contest. . . so i'm currently doing a cutting cycle with h-drol for lean gains. . .but my next cycle i want mass but little water retention. . . .the e-stane i know is for strength and lean gains but i was hoping for some insight. . . I love m-drol with the gains but its pretty bulky. . . I want size but also lookin to increase vascularity and maintain strength with my PCT as well!!!:saroll:
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damn, bryan. i'll leave that one to you!!!:cheers:
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
I should have been more clear. For the cycle that you were asking for for assistance with, what is the goal of that cycle? I want to be able to give you the best response I can, but wanted to make sure I steer you the right direction.
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well i thought i was clear but I say this. . .I want lean size/increased vascularity/ none of my results to show up on a test for a competition!/ lose bf%/did i mention lean mass - i want the h-drol results with m-drol mass with some serious strength. . . . :firedevil:
 
Aaelael said:
well i thought i was clear but I say this. . .I want lean size/increased vascularity/ none of my results to show up on a test for a competition!/ lose bf%/did i mention lean mass - i want the h-drol results with m-drol mass with some serious strength. . . . :firedevil:
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For me, I would do a P-Mag, X-Tren, Topical Formestane cycle/bridge.
 
thebigt said:
damn, that is the cycle you are doing, isn't it.:cheers: gotta love the formestane. just got 2 bottles today.
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If I can ever get over this damn cold long enough to start working out again, I will likely be running that one. Although escholars log has got me thinking about doing the M1,4ADD, P-Mag, and Formestane.
 
hey guys just don't use up all my damned formestane...please. :outtahere:
 
mw1 said:
You just reminded me ....time to apply my Topical Form/Suppress C...brb:slomo:
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you aint makin me jealous, i got 2 bottles today and gonna get 2-3 more next week. already have 3 bottles of suppress-c. bigt aint no fool.:cheers:
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
For me, I would do a P-Mag, X-Tren, Topical Formestane cycle/bridge.
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mw1 said:
Or Hdrol/Xtren/Form/Suppress C:cheers:
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hmmm well okay here is my next question hahah i have lots so i have a ton of m-drol and just bought some eq plex (3) e-stane (3) h-drol (2) p-plex (1) m-drol (4) out of those with what i have said what combination would you suggest and x-tren (1) :saroll:
 
Aaelael said:
hmmm well okay here is my next question hahah i have lots so i have a ton of m-drol and just bought some eq plex (3) e-stane (3) h-drol (2) p-plex (1) m-drol (4) out of those with what i have said what combination would you suggest and x-tren (1) :saroll:
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I would suggest what I originally suggested, but since you dont have P-Mag, you could go with the H-Drol, X-Tren, topical formestane stack.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
I would suggest what I originally suggested, but since you dont have P-Mag, you could go with the H-Drol, X-Tren, topical formestane stack.
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sounds good . . . for that particular stack what would the cycle look like?? i have a feeling that i'll bridge the xtren during week 2 or 3?? and the formestane is a new product to me i'll have to do some research on that but some insight would be wonderful :knockedout:
 
Aaelael said:
sounds good . . . for that particular stack what would the cycle look like?? i have a feeling that i'll bridge the xtren during week 2 or 3?? and the formestane is a new product to me i'll have to do some research on that but some insight would be wonderful :knockedout:
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For the topical formestane, look at the intro thread on it in our subforum and you will learn alot.

H-Drol - 50 mg the first week, 75 mg per day for the rest of the cycle (6 weeks)
X-Tren - I would add it in beginning of week 2 and use it at 60 mg per day weeks 2 thru 4, then 90 mg per day weeks 5 and 6
Topical formestane - start beginning of week 3 at 100 mg per day and then run it for the whole cycle and overlap it two weeks into PCT at 100 mg per day the first week and 50 mg per day the second week
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
For the topical formestane, look at the intro thread on it in our subforum and you will learn alot.

H-Drol - 50 mg the first week, 75 mg per day for the rest of the cycle (6 weeks)
X-Tren - I would add it in beginning of week 2 and use it at 60 mg per day weeks 2 thru 4, then 90 mg per day weeks 5 and 6
Topical formestane - start beginning of week 3 at 100 mg per day and then run it for the whole cycle and overlap it two weeks into PCT at 100 mg per day the first week and 50 mg per day the second week
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good lookin out brotha!!! :saroll: GO BIG OR GO HOME HAHAH thanks again just recieved my 6bottles woo hoo!!!
 
Well I started out at around 185lbs after HS. Was always skinny and very tall. I was diagnosed with MS in Sep 2007 and after the shock of it started to get healthy. I went up to 220lbs in about 15 months by eating right and just being dedidcated to my gym days. I actually did a H Drol cycle about 7 weeks ago consulted with my doctor and i had my liver checked every 2 weeks. I did not have any problems except for reading to much info about gyno and convinced my self i had it and stopped h drol and day 28. I think these PH get bad reps because people are idiots and "ABUSE" the supplement. I for one researched this months and had formed me a conclusion on what i was doing and had everything i needed in my cabinet. I also went over everything with my doctor. I know alot of people dont confide in their doc's before a cycle but just a little common sense IMO and the supplement industry would be in a different place! Good Luck CEL and if the ban stays i will be more then happy to try one of your newer non pro horme suppl's because you guys are very good at what you do!!
 
Lou villian said:
Well I started out at around 185lbs after HS. Was always skinny and very tall. I was diagnosed with MS in Sep 2007 and after the shock of it started to get healthy. I went up to 220lbs in about 15 months by eating right and just being dedidcated to my gym days. I actually did a H Drol cycle about 7 weeks ago consulted with my doctor and i had my liver checked every 2 weeks. I did not have any problems except for reading to much info about gyno and convinced my self i had it and stopped h drol and day 28. I think these PH get bad reps because people are idiots and "ABUSE" the supplement. I for one researched this months and had formed me a conclusion on what i was doing and had everything i needed in my cabinet. I also went over everything with my doctor. I know alot of people dont confide in their doc's before a cycle but just a little common sense IMO and the supplement industry would be in a different place! Good Luck CEL and if the ban stays i will be more then happy to try one of your newer non pro horme suppl's because you guys are very good at what you do!!
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Thanks for the positive words and congrats on your progress.
 
STOCK PILE!

:firedevil: MUAHAHAH
 

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