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super/s/mdrol once/week on arms day?

Zero V said:
hence the studies going into PSARMs
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''SARM-X possesses more powerful muscle building effects than other androgens. SARM-X has the unique ability to selectively target androgen receptors specifically in muscle tissue and not bind to the androgen receptors in other tissues and organs. This greatly increases its anabolic activity in muscle tissue.''
 
Yea... I'm not convinced that PSARMs are where they need to be to rival steroids yet.
 
I like the fact that different routes are being persued especially in case theer is a massive crack down on PHs
 
mark118 said:
I like the fact that different routes are being persued especially in case theer is a massive crack down on PHs
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Actually Psarms have been persued for a while now. The new big thing is myostatin blocking and gene doping. Scary stuff.

There are SO many analogues of different hormones. They could ban every hormone on the market and 15 new ones would pop up.
 
listentocky said:
Tried it yet? I think I'm going to try it for a month perhaps.
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no, im running The One for the moment.

Just finished 2 weeks... will reserve judgement for when i finished

but if you choose to try my idea, please let us know

I might try it at xmas time (Mdrol is only £25 (UK) so a single bottle would last months!!)

In all seriousness, it does seem like a 'could be good' idea - once per week would not in theory cause shutdown at a low dose but would over time cause beneficial effects on that day for the body part being trained
 
mark118 said:
no, im running The One for the moment.

Just finished 2 weeks... will reserve judgement for when i finished

but if you choose to try my idea, please let us know

I might try it at xmas time (Mdrol is only £25 (UK) so a single bottle would last months!!)

In all seriousness, it does seem like a 'could be good' idea - once per week would not in theory cause shutdown at a low dose but would over time cause beneficial effects on that day for the body part being trained
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If you do it, keep a log going on here. I would say at least 3 months (considering you are taking it what, 4 times a month) to even get an idea on it though.
 
I am considering doing Superdrol at 10mg 3x every 2 weeks for a very extended period of time to coincide with carb cycling. It would be 10mg for 3 days leading up into the refeed day every 2 weeks. I'll post more details on it later.
 
I actually tried it today. 10mg 45 minutes before workout. Even though it could have been placebo effect I definitely felt more amped up to workout. The sessions lasted an hour and I still didn't want to stop. I did A LOT of volume today but I hit 235lbs on the floor press which is what I'll use to monitor my strength levels while on. I'll check back in next week to let you guys know how it goes.
 
Pretty nifty listentocky. Lets see how it works more drawn out.

UnrealMachine said:
I am considering doing Superdrol at 10mg 3x every 2 weeks for a very extended period of time to coincide with carb cycling. It would be 10mg for 3 days leading up into the refeed day every 2 weeks. I'll post more details on it later.
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That will be unique, you going to log it correcT?
 
listentocky said:
I actually tried it today. 10mg 45 minutes before workout. Even though it could have been placebo effect I definitely felt more amped up to workout. The sessions lasted an hour and I still didn't want to stop. I did A LOT of volume today but I hit 235lbs on the floor press which is what I'll use to monitor my strength levels while on. I'll check back in next week to let you guys know how it goes.
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only once a week?

i think lose dose sdrol is underated (especially in cycles)
 
Zero V said:
Pretty nifty listentocky. Lets see how it works more drawn out.



That will be unique, you going to log it correcT?
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Its part of something big that me and crazyfool are putting together... yeah i'll probably log it. And do it for 16 weeks too. Over 16 weeks its 24 SD pills, not a concern in terms of toxicity.

But like i said... 10mg of SD pre-WO is noticable... I've been validated!
 
UnrealMachine said:
Its part of something big that me and crazyfool are putting together... yeah i'll probably log it. And do it for 16 weeks too. Over 16 weeks its 24 SD pills, not a concern in terms of toxicity.

But like i said... 10mg of SD pre-WO is noticable... I've been validated!
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excellent to hear...

10mg seems to be the right dose id say ie balance of small benefits to lack of sides

On a side note - SD cant aromatise can it?
 
Yes I definitely noticed. Whether that translates to gains over time is yet to be seen. I'm crossing my fingers. I will log it. At the moment I workout 3x a week. Push/Squat/Deadlifts so that's my only reasoning for using once a week. If this is successful then perhaps I might try more but I do not want to count my chickens before they hatch. Unreal, how will you be running yours?
 
listentocky said:
Yes I definitely noticed. Whether that translates to gains over time is yet to be seen. I'm crossing my fingers. I will log it. At the moment I workout 3x a week. Push/Squat/Deadlifts so that's my only reasoning for using once a week. If this is successful then perhaps I might try more but I do not want to count my chickens before they hatch. Unreal, how will you be running yours?
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assuming thats addressed for me...

i do a 4 way split, and my area of weakness if arms (my bros arms who also BBs is also subject to this weakness) and so I'd use it on arms day and then do calves at the end too

once a week
 
Also guys, which do you think would be better

CEL's Mdrol - tried and test high quality

OR

Chapparal Labs 'megavol' which contains the usual 10mg of SD/cap but also
Hawthorn Berry - 160mg
N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine - 100mg

Do you think those 2 extra ingreidents would make any difference? also... Chapparal labs, legit?
 
I'm taking the cheap nutraplanet house brand I got on sale for $13 lol. If I'm not mistaken the hawthorn takes a while to build up and needs to be preloaded so I do not see that working as well. How is the one treating you?
 
listentocky said:
I'm taking the cheap nutraplanet house brand I got on sale for $13 lol. If I'm not mistaken the hawthorn takes a while to build up and needs to be preloaded so I do not see that working as well. How is the one treating you?
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its only the end of the 2nd week... but apparently its meant to 'hit you' far earlier which i have yet to see

thing is, when on Hdrol and with a diet plan far less sensible but with similar calorie total it definitely kicked in !

hence, if it carries on like this ill sell the other 2 bottles and try this 1x/week thing (and my new interest in this area)
 
mark118 I thought you were doing an Epi pulse? is this in addition to this once a week SD protocol? or are you still debating what steroid you can take the least of and still possibly gain something without risking anything?
 
BUCKNUTS said:
mark118 I thought you were doing an Epi pulse? is this in addition to this once a week SD protocol? or are you still debating what steroid you can take the least of and still possibly gain something without risking anything?
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sorry for the confusion

researching long time regarding the epi pulsing, still wanna know more and so im still on the fence

the SD plan would be distant in the future but i havent started back at uni (grad student) yet and so im using my time to plan and learn as much as possible about any futures cycles so that i can just order, stick it in the cupboard and not think about it until the time comes and im ready to go
 
mark118 said:
sorry for the confusion

researching long time regarding the epi pulsing, still wanna know more and so im still on the fence

the SD plan would be distant in the future but i havent started back at uni (grad student) yet and so im using my time to plan and learn as much as possible about any futures cycles so that i can just order, stick it in the cupboard and not think about it until the time comes and im ready to go
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Just wondered, research is a good thing, just seems like you are really unsure if you want to take the "plunge" into doing a cycle. Better safe than sorry I suppose.
 
BUCKNUTS said:
Just wondered, research is a good thing, just seems like you are really unsure if you want to take the "plunge" into doing a cycle. Better safe than sorry I suppose.
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I am running the One (apparently not as suppresive which is why 6br is sufficient for the PCT+a test booster) but as for the harder stuff, especially Sdrol im taking my time, im in no rush.
 
mark118 said:
I am running the One (apparently not as suppresive which is why 6br is sufficient for the PCT+a test booster) but as for the harder stuff, especially Sdrol im taking my time, im in no rush.
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That's wise. So you are running the one? I've not run that. How is it for you in terms of gains and sides?
 
BUCKNUTS said:
That's wise. So you are running the one? I've not run that. How is it for you in terms of gains and sides?
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so far... minimal on both accounts

im eating a lot (good stuff too), much better than when i was on hdrol which was amazing for me, but have only put on 1.5 kg in 2 weeks for something people say gives you double to triple to that... but ill reserve full judgement til the end of my cycle

running it a 3caps/day for 5 weeks

hdrol was at 50,50,75,75,75,75 with reversitol as pct and that was an amazing cycle
 
With some orals, gaining weight depends on how much BF you have. You may be shedding fat & gaining weight at same time therefore a recomp. So you must use the mirror more than the scale.
 
This is fascinating. I'd love to try Dimethazine at 15 on work out days, PreWO 3-4 days a week..................like Mon-Wed-Th-Sat or Mon-Weds-Fri and see how it goes.

If I ran it for like 4-5 weeks, would I need a mild PCT liker Reversitol or Novadex-XT or any kinda LiverLonger/Cycle Support at like 1/2 the reg. dosage?

I gotta box layin' around......................

And Reversitol, LivLonger, Life Support and plenty of Nolva.
 
droppinplates said:
This is fascinating. I'd love to try Dimethazine at 15 on work out days, PreWO 3-4 days a week..................like Mon-Wed-Th-Sat or Mon-Weds-Fri and see how it goes.

If I ran it for like 4-5 weeks, would I need a mild PCT liker Reversitol or Novadex-XT or any kinda LiverLonger/Cycle Support at like 1/2 the reg. dosage?

I gotta box layin' around......................

And Reversitol, LivLonger, Life Support and plenty of Nolva.
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dymethazine looked like a hit or miss compound and I think it'll suck for pulsing because it's basically SUPPOSED to be delayed action Superdrol making it 'less harsh.' The delay being the breaking of the azine bond... idk what the half life is but this makes me think it isn't ideal for pulsing.

Epi/SD are best for pulsing from my experience and what i've read. I haven't TRIED pulsing others but i know that half life is real important for pulsing.

I wouldn't bother with any liver supps for a pulse, it's so weak on your body, and an OTC pct would work fine. But if i were you i'd look into something liek Superdrol 20mg pulse 3-4x a week for 4-5 weeks.

Actually screw all of this, i'm waiting for your MassTabs run. It's crosssed my mind to pickup 2 bottles and run something like 1 cap a day and 2 caps on lifting days, that way i get more than 1pill/day dose and more than 30day duration
 
UnrealMachine said:
dymethazine looked like a hit or miss compound and I think it'll suck for pulsing because it's basically SUPPOSED to be delayed action Superdrol making it 'less harsh.' The delay being the breaking of the azine bond... idk what the half life is but this makes me think it isn't ideal for pulsing.

Epi/SD are best for pulsing from my experience and what i've read. I haven't TRIED pulsing others but i know that half life is real important for pulsing.

I wouldn't bother with any liver supps for a pulse, it's so weak on your body, and an OTC pct would work fine. But if i were you i'd look into something liek Superdrol 20mg pulse 3-4x a week for 4-5 weeks.

Actually screw all of this, i'm waiting for your MassTabs run. It's crosssed my mind to pickup 2 bottles and run something like 1 cap a day and 2 caps on lifting days, that way i get more than 1pill/day dose and more than 30day duration
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Might work. I can't wait to start the Mass Tabs! Elbows are getting better and I have everything I need. One a day oughta do me to start.
 
hi guys

just bumping here,

during and after my pct of the one ill be running Act Xtreme which brings up 2 questions

during PCT i obviously will touch anything else but 2nd gear and act xtreme but in the following month, i would like to move onto my 2nd bottle of act xtreme so should i try the once/week mdrol then or wait a further month til im off the act xtreme?

also, which dose do you think 5mg? or 10mg?

thanks!
 
I'm gonna hit up the mdrol on deadlift day. I love deads anyway, so it should just make em even more fun.
 
WheyGood said:
DR.D, I haven’t tried a pulsing cycle yet, but the concept got me to thinking about what an even less frequent pulsing schedule might be like.

Here’s an example – let’s say a person had no plans to take any anabolic substances over the next 6 months. He’s going to train hard, eat plenty of protein, get enough rest, and take only non-hormonal supplements. The idea is that the guy wants to have his hormones stable and his body in a healthy state during this time.

This guy cycles his “heavy” weight training, with the heaviest session occurring once every two weeks. What if he then decided to try “pulsing” 20mg Phera-Plex (pre-workout) and 20mg Superdrol (post-workout) on these heavy days every two weeks? Would the following happen:

- The PP and SD would make those “heavy” workouts more effective.
- The PP and SD would increase the gains ‘slightly’ over time.
- The total 40mg pulse every two weeks would cause virtually no shutdown, and negligible to no negative sides.
- This schedule could be safely maintained for up to six months (?) because the effects on lipids, blood pressure, liver values, and natural testosterone production would be so minimal.
- There would be no PCT needed when the schedule was stopped after 6 months.

I can hear just hear the replies to this concept – “Dear God, no!” and “Six months on methyls!” etc.

The idea is to target the optimum day for anabolic supplementation (the heaviest, most taxing training session that occurs every few weeks) while otherwise using the anabolics so infrequently that there are no negative sides, no need for “cycle support”, no PCT needed at the end.

A potential problem with this concept – resisting the temptation to “sneak” some extra PP or SD here and there. The trainee would have to be disciplined and never pulse any more frequently than every two weeks (if the schedule were to be maintained for something like 6 months).

This approach might appeal to someone who wants to keep their body as healthy as possible for a period of time while still slightly increasing gains over the alternative of no PP/SD usage at all over that timeframe.

Is this idea a waste of time, or worth trying?
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DR.D said:
Yes, but it's only 13 doses (520mg total androgen load) over 6 months instead of over 1 month like a standard pulse cycle, so the typical methyl concerns are a non-issue! All of your assertions would be accurate. It would necessarily help those heavy days, and you would have nothing but big bounces that were quite disproportionate to any transient shutdown.

I would go a bit further and say do at least 1 dose a wk instead of every 2 wks though. I think you'd get the same type of response your shooting for here, but with far greater efficiency. Once a week could be done indefinitely, for years straight theoretically. The toxicity would be so diluted, all you'd notice would be gains favored over time.
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from the pulsing thread
 
mmmkay...first off guys...let me point out that while dr.D is VERY knowledgable, and should definately garner the respect of everyone on this board, he is not a real doctor. None of these pulsing ideas have every really been studied. A lot of people on THIS board of have run pulses becaause of Dr.D's thread, and thats fine. People should always be trying to break out of the box. But this is all speculation, D's work is not gospel. And many people take posts out of that thread and twist them to fit their own context. In this instance you may see some mild benefit from using super once a week but its not going to target the muscle group you want it to. If anything you will get a very mild systemic benefit over time. If your really looking for site growth I would look at some peptide options over this idea.
And second, while Rosie is VERY knowledgeable, and has proven herself many times over, she is still just regurgitating information she has been told. She has no real life experience with these compounds and her opinions should be taken accordingly. Now im sure this will piss a lot of people off, but personal experience accounts for a lot in my mind.
 
Mooch let's say it's 30mg SD pulsed 1x a week on arms day 20mg preworkout and 10mg post workout. You don't think arms would grow at a slightly accelerated rate with respect to the rest of the body? The active Superdrol during the workout will cause much greater muscular endurance and thus allow for you to end up getting more reps at heavier weight. Also there will be an increased pump stretching the fascia more and helping pump nutrients into the muscles. The 10mg post workout will mean that the muscles are in a very anabolic environment in the key hours after being broken down... This seems like it must correspond to an increased rate of repair and better nutrient direction to the muscles.

This must have a greater effect on your arms than it will 3 days later in your legs when there's 0 Superdrol left.

Even pulsing SD at 10mg pre-WO i was able to notice it, i believe with double that amount preworkout and more post workout, there will be a definitive edge with that workout compared to all other workouts of the week.
 
unreal, it may or may not help shuttle nutrients into the muscle post workout, but there are much better ways to do this in my opinion...ie...insulin, igf-1,pslin,iload ..etc...etc...as for real recovery this is definately not happening within the 12 hour half-life of superdrol. Recovery really occurs much later, that is the benefit of running a straight cycle as opposed to a pulse....i honestly do not think this idea would hold much merit for site growth. I think this gentleman really needs to take his training into account if his arms dont respond well. Most guys with this problem are over-training arms and with the number of sets hes doing after pre-exhausting tris with other push movements this would seem to be the case.
 
mooch2321 said:
unreal, it may or may not help shuttle nutrients into the muscle post workout, but there are much better ways to do this in my opinion...ie...insulin, igf-1,pslin,iload ..etc...etc...as for real recovery this is definately not happening within the 12 hour half-life of superdrol. Recovery really occurs much later, that is the benefit of running a straight cycle as opposed to a pulse....i honestly do not think this idea would hold much merit for site growth. I think this gentleman really needs to take his training into account if his arms dont respond well. Most guys with this problem are over-training arms and with the number of sets hes doing after pre-exhausting tris with other push movements this would seem to be the case.
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i have addressed my training issues, but as with my brother who trains differently to me, we both just have arms that are stubborn to growh whereas our pecs and traps seem to grow with little stimulation
 
mooch2321 said:
mmmkay...first off guys...let me point out that while dr.D is VERY knowledgable, and should definately garner the respect of everyone on this board, he is not a real doctor. None of these pulsing ideas have every really been studied. A lot of people on THIS board of have run pulses becaause of Dr.D's thread, and thats fine. People should always be trying to break out of the box. But this is all speculation, D's work is not gospel. And many people take posts out of that thread and twist them to fit their own context. In this instance you may see some mild benefit from using super once a week but its not going to target the muscle group you want it to. If anything you will get a very mild systemic benefit over time. If your really looking for site growth I would look at some peptide options over this idea.
And second, while Rosie is VERY knowledgeable, and has proven herself many times over, she is still just regurgitating information she has been told. She has no real life experience with these compounds and her opinions should be taken accordingly. Now im sure this will piss a lot of people off, but personal experience accounts for a lot in my mind.
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The pulsing protocol IS based on real world research and trial with corticosteroids which continues to be used to this day, and while aas and corticosteroids are not the same the principles of suppression are applicable to the use of any exogenous hormone as far as I'm concerned, so this method wasn't pulled out of DR.D's ass it is in fact based on tried and proven methods. As far as everyone doing it, I say why not? almost all of what we know about these compounds is anecdotal anyways so people giving the method a try and logging results is a great resource as long as the logger is honest in terms of benefits/sides. There is a bunch of anecdotal evidence that the method works on this board and others, I would like to see some with pre and post cycle blood work though. I didn't do either myself but it would be nice to see.
 
BUCKNUTS said:
The pulsing protocol IS based on real world research and trial with corticosteroids which continues to be used to this day, and while aas and corticosteroids are not the same the principles of suppression are applicable to the use of any exogenous hormone as far as I'm concerned, so this method wasn't pulled out of DR.D's ass it is in fact based on tried and proven methods. As far as everyone doing it, I say why not? almost all of what we know about these compounds is anecdotal anyways so people giving the method a try and logging results is a great resource as long as the logger is honest in terms of benefits/sides. There is a bunch of anecdotal evidence that the method works on this board and others, I would like to see some with pre and post cycle blood work though. I didn't do either myself but it would be nice to see.
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jeez....Never once did i say dr.d pulled this method out of his AS$!!! I think i made it clear that i have the utmost respect for him and i thank-you for putting words in my mouth....@sshole. You say in your post that all we know about these compounds is anecdotal but then also say these methods are tried and proven because someone did research with corticosteroids....it may not be apples and oranges but its definately red and green apples. I for one do not like red apples. Dr.D may have gotten his idea from the medical applications for corticosteroids....but we are not talking about hormone suppression in this thread. Did you read the whole thing? Nothing about the use of corticosteroids applies to this gentleman achieving site growth by using superdrol once a week.
 
I'd rather not turn this into a shouting match guys. Let's keep this positive if we can. Anyway.... today was workout two. Still got insane pumps and still lifted 230lbs on the floor press. I didn't move up in poundage but have also been insanely sick the last 4 days. I expected a decrease in strength. Another note is I popped open the cap and poured the contents into olive oil about 30 minutes before the workout. Seemed to do the trick. Hopefully this translates to gains over time. We shall see.
 
mooch2321 said:
jeez....Never once did i say dr.d pulled this method out of his AS$!!! I think i made it clear that i have the utmost respect for him and i thank-you for putting words in my mouth....@sshole. You say in your post that all we know about these compounds is anecdotal but then also say these methods are tried and proven because someone did research with corticosteroids....it may not be apples and oranges but its definately red and green apples. I for one do not like red apples. Dr.D may have gotten his idea from the medical applications for corticosteroids....but we are not talking about hormone suppression in this thread. Did you read the whole thing? Nothing about the use of corticosteroids applies to this gentleman achieving site growth by using superdrol once a week.
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I am an A-hole. Sorry I didn't mean to come off that way, I'm not normally a jerk only occasionally. I def did not contradict myself I said that the pulsing method has some research and real world applications with corticosteroids, but if any studies exist for superdrol or epi or any of these other compounds I haven't seen them so yes most of what we know about these compounds is anecdotal. Sorry dude but you clearly were not talking about site specific growth when you said " mmmkay...first off guys...let me point out that while dr.D is VERY knowledgable, and should definately garner the respect of everyone on this board, he is not a real doctor. None of these pulsing ideas have every really been studied. A lot of people on THIS board of have run pulses becaause of Dr.D's thread, and thats fine. People should always be trying to break out of the box. But this is all speculation, D's work is not gospel." I apologize if I sidetracked the discussion guys.
 
listentocky said:
I'd rather not turn this into a shouting match guys. Let's keep this positive if we can. Anyway.... today was workout two. Still got insane pumps and still lifted 230lbs on the floor press. I didn't move up in poundage but have also been insanely sick the last 4 days. I expected a decrease in strength. Another note is I popped open the cap and poured the contents into olive oil about 30 minutes before the workout. Seemed to do the trick. Hopefully this translates to gains over time. We shall see.
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what are your goals here? why the floor press? your bench pressing off the floor right? are you doing this close grip for tris? im confused......

BUCKNUTS said:
I am an A-hole. Sorry I didn't mean to come off that way, I'm not normally a jerk only occasionally. I def did not contradict myself I said that the pulsing method has some research and real world applications with corticosteroids, but if any studies exist for superdrol or epi or any of these other compounds I haven't seen them so yes most of what we know about these compounds is anecdotal. Sorry dude but you clearly were not talking about site specific growth when you said " mmmkay...first off guys...let me point out that while dr.D is VERY knowledgable, and should definately garner the respect of everyone on this board, he is not a real doctor. None of these pulsing ideas have every really been studied. A lot of people on THIS board of have run pulses becaause of Dr.D's thread, and thats fine. People should always be trying to break out of the box. But this is all speculation, D's work is not gospel." I apologize if I sidetracked the discussion guys.
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sorry for jumpin your @ss man....on the other hand i do not agree that the studies being done on corticosteroids should hold true for AAS. If hpta suppression were the only factor then i would agree but there is so much else in the equation. The point i was trying to make(and doing it badly), in my earlier post that you quoted, is simple. Until a real study has been done everything else is speculation.
 
mooch2321 said:
sorry for jumpin your @ss man....on the other hand i do not agree that the studies being done on corticosteroids should hold true for AAS. If hpta suppression were the only factor then i would agree but there is so much else in the equation. The point i was trying to make(and doing it badly), in my earlier post that you quoted, is simple. Until a real study has been done everything else is speculation.
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It's all good man I came off wrong in my post, what are the other considerations you are referring to? Strictly speaking you are right there haven't been, Nor will there be any studies done. I really do hope that unreal or someone else does a good log on this once a week idea I would def be following along, as it is I'm not sold on the idea.
 
I want to be on cycle or off cycle counting down the days where I can cycle again. 1x a week dosing isn't a cycle so i'm not going to do it, i don't know how well it would work but i'm inclined to think it would make a difference over a long period of time.

But i won't try it, if i do a cycle i'm going to be ON CYCLE that's for sure, looking into heavier stacks and injectables a lot more now...

What i do plan to do in the future that I will log is 8 week SD pulse up to 30mg, 3x a week using DC training. I think I can gain and keep 15 pounds off of that. 10/20/20/30/30/30/30/30. 60 SD pills over 8 weeks, I think the toxicity is manageable. I really think pulsing SD + DC training = GOLDEN.

That is how SD should be pulsed, in an actual cycle with a legit PCT at the end.

The only thing i don't like about the 1x a week idea is it tries to evade the sides and shutdown of steroids but still tries to get the benefits... but it risks so little that it risks just doing nothing... If you're going to cycle just do it, don't be afraid of shutdown, that's what PCT is for...

I started out in this game terrified of side effects and shutdown and trying to run weak cycles to "save my potential" or keep my "receptors clean," bogus ideas like that. My first cycle was H50 at the normal dose 50mg for 4 weeks and i didn't even know for sure if it was working and made no gains... Second cycle I ran Phera only 3 weeks... First 2 cycles I did amounted to practically nothing because I was too SHY and not aggressive enough... Last cycle I pushed my doses and duration properly and came out of PCT with better results than most of my previous cycles put together.
 
I agree with you guys. I would love to run a straight cycle. I'm not afraid of pct. I have serms and AI's ready. This is just something I've wondered myself. Why not try it so the question can be answered? If it does nothing after a month or so I'll take a break and just run a pulse or something. And as for the floor press, it's just my favorite lift lol. I still hit military presses and dips and rack lockouts so I should be covered. And as for goals, eating mostly for recomp with Sundays being my cheat day. Yes, cheat DAY.
 
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