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Which steroids give you gyno, and which steroids don't

UnrealMachine

UnrealMachine

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Another information gathering thread here, I will attempt to compile the results so long as they are organized.

Steroids you've tried that
A) give you gyno (if you think it's dose dependent please specify dose, if you used a clone please specify which clone)
B) don't give you gyno (no need to specify the dose)


I'm going first:
A) Get gyno from:
1) Revolt (Max LMG clone - progestin!)
2) T-Roid ("Tren" dienolone clone, thought to be a progestin!)
3) Testosterone (aromatizes, letro takes care of this)
4) P-Plex (phera clone, only when i went up to 50mg and very minor)

B) Don't get gyno from:
1) Superdrol
2) Epi
3) Halodrol
4) Prostanozol
5) Trenadrol (didn't get anything from it actually)

I've seen people get gyno from almost every designer but i'm looking to get more info and see what the rates are like. Also see if there's any "iffy" clones that don't follow the usual rates.




GYNO RANKING

Dienolone "tren" - 3
Phera - 2
Dbol - 2
Sus 500 - 1
Revolt - 1


Gyno in PCT doesn't count, as it's probably rebound gyno
 
A) Get gyno from:
1)Dbol (due to estrogen conversion). Ran 30mg per day.
2)ACL Tren Xtreme (19-Nor pro-dienolone). Ran at 90mg per day.
Agree with Unreal, thought to be a progestin.

B) Don't get gyno from:
1)Phera
2)Epi
3)Hemadrol (didn't get anything from it, I guess it was bunk)

As for any other compound like halodrol, superdrol, M1T, M1A/MXT : I haven't tried and can't give any comments.
 
Have only run 3 DS cycles:

Epi - no gyno
Mdrol - 3 weeks into PCT and has actually reduced minor gyno (from a P-plex cycle) by about 70-80%.

CEL P-plex - got gyno from 30mg per day - So im guessing its the Progestin aspect as Nolva didn't stop it (I didn't expect it to reduce it just to stop it which it didn't).
 
Epi products can DEFINITELY cause gyno. I had gyno appear during PCT while using a SERM. Not talking puffy nips either. I'm certainly not the only user to report this.

Didn't get:

Test prop.
Sustanon-250 (500mg weekly)
Laurabolin (Deca equiv. @ up to 800mg weekly)
H-drol
1-AD
4-AD

Got:

Epi (for me, combo of Havoc and Epistane)
 
A) Get gyno from:
1)Dbol (left tit, had surgery and had that sh!t removed)

B) Don't get gyno from:
1)Epi (Epidrol, Epistane)
2)Hdrol (CEL H-Drol)
3)3-AD (AX)
4)Bold 200 (EQ-Jet)

Don't know about S-Drol yet but will try in a little while. Also got a bottle of Tren (T-Roid) but I am not going to run it, too many gyno reports and I still got potential for my right tit :-)

~abuleh
 
great thread idea!! maybe you guys can list the serm's+extras you used for the cycles too for comparissons sake...

brown
 
Got it from epistane - Pea sized nodules under nips during PCT (could have been from the 6-oxo extreme i took during PCT)
Didn't get it from Superdrol
 
abuleh said:
A) Get gyno from:
1)Dbol (left tit, had surgery and had that sh!t removed)

B) Don't get gyno from:
1)Epi (Epidrol, Epistane)
2)Hdrol (CEL H-Drol)
3)3-AD (AX)
4)Bold 200 (EQ-Jet)

Don't know about S-Drol yet but will try in a little while. Also got a bottle of Tren (T-Roid) but I am not going to run it, too many gyno reports and I still got potential for my right tit :-)

~abuleh
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brownchoclit said:
great thread idea!! maybe you guys can list the serm's+extras you used for the cycles too for comparissons sake...

brown
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PCT for all my ph/ds cycles was Nolva with different dosing. PCT for 3-AD was aPCT because it was sooo mild.

Extras: Cycles Assist, protein, creatin, etc.....

~abuleh
 
ottoclif said:
Got it from epistane - Pea sized nodules under nips during PCT (could have been from the 6-oxo extreme i took during PCT)
Didn't get it from Superdrol
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Same here. Nothing visible but they are definitely there (palpable). In my 3rd week of toremifene with no improvement/degradation. Thinking it my be the PCT (to low a dose or wrong compound). I have tamoxifene citrate on hand; however, I am hesitant to bridge to it. We'll see what happens over the next week.

Never issues on superdrol or pheraphlex.
 
MarleyDog said:
Same here. Nothing visible but they are definitely there (palpable). In my 3rd week of toremifene with no improvement/degradation. Thinking it my be the PCT (to low a dose or wrong compound). I have tamoxifene citrate on hand; however, I am hesitant to bridge to it. We'll see what happens over the next week.

Never issues on superdrol or pheraphlex.
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I'd start an AI (letro) after you stop the toremifene. I can almost promise you that nolva won't help/hurt. Best to knock it out before the tissue hardens. PM me if you need help.
 
updated, but not enough results to be at all useful
 
I wonder how genetic this is Unreal. We all know that some ppl are more subceptable to gyno than others. hell, some kids get it when they go through puberty. some abuse phs/aas like crazy and dont have an outbreak at all. i wonder if this is an unaccurate poll do to genetics??

oh and my wrist is good enough to be lifting again. so my log is back on tomorrow man!! stay tuned!
 
You travis, glad about the wrist, its about time you get that log rolling, i know you are anxious

Genetics is a big factor, but i just wanted to see which PH/DS had the highest rates of occurrence for gyno
 
me too man. i was pretty unoptimistic going into the gym today but all lifts (besides DB & BB press) felt good. but i can use the vrtical chest press machine no pain!! so tomorrow is the big day....again lol!!

no no, dont get me wrong i respect this log very much and it is a great log. i just think its unfair how some ass-hats can use products with no protection and their nipples look better then when the started the cycle LOL!!
 
Did not get any signs of gyno from h-drol. Nips got alittle itchy but im guessing that its because it really shuts me down for some reason... Its to the point where its not even worth me adding it to a cycle.
 
I'd also like to add that I ran Clomid for pct dosed at 100/100/50/50/ and it fixed me right up. I got pretty tight during pct which was a nice bonus.
 
Designers:

Superdrol 10mg day(s-drol, m-drol)
X-tren 60mg day
Epistane 20mg day

Illegal:

Test (any ester pretty much any dose)
Dbol (even at 10mg day)
deca (used at 2mg per lb. bodyweight)
 
UnrealMachine said:
Another information gathering thread here, I will attempt to compile the results so long as they are organized.

Steroids you've tried that
A) give you gyno (if you think it's dose dependent please specify dose, if you used a clone please specify which clone)
B) don't give you gyno (no need to specify the dose)
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If everything i've done counts as B even at retarded doses, do I have to name them all?
 
lol Easy you are 1 lucky mofo
 
Gyno:
CEL m-drol/p-plex stack.. ----prolactin gyno... ALSO NO GAINS..

Not gyno:
Original phera plex!
p-plex is not phera plex in my opinion...
 
Designers
KS trenadrol...<--- OTC tren = BS

illegals
Tren ace - I got a little puffy but it was nothing to get concerned over or even worried
will use and run again

Do not get gyno from...
epi
hdrol
stanodrol
test e / p
winstrol
var
 
only ran two cycles but never got gyno from either

epistane

second was epistane/11 sterone


though i will have nolva on hand for when I run m14add/1-testosterone in about 6 weeks
 
UnrealMachine said:
lol Easy you are 1 lucky mofo
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what I honestly think it is, is that my body has always had pretty high estrogen levels. when my total test was right at bottom of scale (250-270 range) my estrogen was in the 60s, over top of range. Even on my one blood test with a total test of 22, and non measureable LH/FSH/free test, my estrogen was still around 36.... So I think overal my body is just well acclimatized to it, so the chest tissue receptors aren't overly sensitive.
 
Bump for an interesting thread idea
 
i have got a pea size lump under my nipple from a dbol cycle, i can get hold of tamoxifen would this get rid of it????
 
no gyno from epi, h-drol, m1,4add, mdxt or 19-nor andro.
 
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