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CLENVISCERATE the god of fat loss

Ok. Say if we were to apply clenviscerate in the morning, go work out, then feel the burn. Then for our second application in the evening, if we were to just sit around the house and not sweat, would we feel any burn, and would it be just as effective at burning the fat as when we were sweating earlier in the day?

I would like to know because I work tonight, and if sweat is required to get the application more thoroughly absorbed, then I'll do some extra work to *TRY* to get a sweat going on.
 
DenDestroys said:
Ok. Say if we were to apply clenviscerate in the morning, go work out, then feel the burn. Then for our second application in the evening, if we were to just sit around the house and not sweat, would we feel any burn, and would it be just as effective at burning the fat as when we were sweating earlier in the day?

I would like to know because I work tonight, and if sweat is required to get the application more thoroughly absorbed, then I'll do some extra work to *TRY* to get a sweat going on.
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I don't feel much a burn unless I'm heated up. I apply once in the morning, and once in the evening after I've worked out.
I do experience a bit of a tingle sensation in the evening, but I think that's because I exfoliate with Lava soap in the shower.
 
Is it cool to take clenviscerate with Slim Xtreme? I noticed Eviscerate has caffeine in it, and Slim Xtreme does as well. Would these two have any interactions?
 
DenDestroys said:
Ok. Say if we were to apply clenviscerate in the morning, go work out, then feel the burn. Then for our second application in the evening, if we were to just sit around the house and not sweat, would we feel any burn, and would it be just as effective at burning the fat as when we were sweating earlier in the day?

I would like to know because I work tonight, and if sweat is required to get the application more thoroughly absorbed, then I'll do some extra work to *TRY* to get a sweat going on.
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the burn is NOT necessary for effectiveness at all - it's just a pleasant side effect of the mechanisms of capsaicin activation.
 
jrw said:
Is it cool to take clenviscerate with Slim Xtreme? I noticed Eviscerate has caffeine in it, and Slim Xtreme does as well. Would these two have any interactions?
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The caffeine from Eviscerate is not absorbed systemically. You should be fine.

I heard that SX is pretty wicked on its own.
 
dsade said:
The caffeine from Eviscerate is not absorbed systemically. You should be fine.

I heard that SX is pretty wicked on its own.
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Bro, then I must have used too much Eviscerate tonight. I put it on right before working out. I also took some plasmajet. After my workout I was completely pumpled, rock hard, but I had a jittery feel for an hour or two afterwards, like I couldnt relax. I felt nauseated. I put some on my abs and shoulders. I dont know if I used too much or there was some sort of synergistic effect with the Slim Xtreme, but it was reallly wearing off so I dont know what it was exactly. This was with E only, and no clen yet.
 
since the freed fatty acids still need to be burned off, do you have to be in a caloric deficit for this to work, or can you get a nice recomp effect while bulking with it? Would you just need to add in some SS cardio, or would it be pointless?
 
I was afraid I had a bad batch because I haven't received nearly the burning sensation described by others. I've only been dieting for 3 days (UD 2.0) and I've only been using Clenviscerate for 2.5 days.

Holy smokes! I'm down nearly a full inch at the navel and .75" at my obliques. Skin folds for my supralliac and obliques were also down close to a full mm, but navel folds are unchanged. That doesn't suprise me as I had a good bit of visceral fat to loose and it usually goes first.
 
spadesofaces said:
since the freed fatty acids still need to be burned off, do you have to be in a caloric deficit for this to work, or can you get a nice recomp effect while bulking with it? Would you just need to add in some SS cardio, or would it be pointless?
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On a lean bulk, you should get a good recomping effect (depending on your diet macro ratios). Otherwise, ideally you would be in deficit for this to work most effectively.
 
Is adding clen to it really worth it/ effective when ur under 12%bf? I know I don't have time to try it before I got to Hawaii but I want to when I get back
 
if any of you have the following handy, give it a try. maybe friday nite before going out dancing or something cause I have a huge buzz right now...

50mg formestane from E-form or your choice of topical form. 25mg ATD topical (mine is in some napalm) and clenviscerate. mix it in your hand (use gloves dummy) and rub it on.... wow is all I can say.
 
EasyEJL said:
if any of you have the following handy, give it a try. maybe friday nite before going out dancing or something cause I have a huge buzz right now...

50mg formestane from E-form or your choice of topical form. 25mg ATD topical (mine is in some napalm) and clenviscerate. mix it in your hand (use gloves dummy) and rub it on.... wow is all I can say.
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Can you elaborate?
 
well, you know the sort of buzz/euphoria you get at 125-150mg formestane applied at once? this is even better than that. I think its mostly enhanced quick absorption sort of like with the sensations I got applying over where I injected my TRT meds. man I wish I was working out today. going to try it again tomorrow morning
 
EasyEJL said:
if any of you have the following handy, give it a try. maybe friday nite before going out dancing or something cause I have a huge buzz right now...

50mg formestane from E-form or your choice of topical form. 25mg ATD topical (mine is in some napalm) and clenviscerate. mix it in your hand (use gloves dummy) and rub it on.... wow is all I can say.
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Whats that do? I had some penetrate + formestane and i swear i noticed no difference in performance. ATD, tho, sounds interesting.
 
On top of the cool buz is all that stuff enhace the fat burn even more?

I'm a pretty white guy and I don't tan at all in the sun. I want to apply a sunless tanning moistureizer.... Can I put it on top of the eviscerate without it messing eviscerate up?
 
ahsswimmaster said:
On top of the cool buz is all that stuff enhace the fat burn even more?

I'm a pretty white guy and I don't tan at all in the sun. I want to apply a sunless tanning moistureizer.... Can I put it on top of the eviscerate without it messing eviscerate up?
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Keep in mind that the idea behind transdermals is that it pulls anything small enough into the skin/blood. I wouldnt risk it. Im sure there is stuff in the tanner that you dont want to get inside of you. Im not positive, but if in doubt i would hold off on one of the two.
 
That's a good point. So after I shower would I be able to add the tanner without eviscerate doing anything or should I wait a few days?
 
EasyEJL said:
if any of you have the following handy, give it a try. maybe friday nite before going out dancing or something cause I have a huge buzz right now...

50mg formestane from E-form or your choice of topical form. 25mg ATD topical (mine is in some napalm) and clenviscerate. mix it in your hand (use gloves dummy) and rub it on.... wow is all I can say.
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Where can u even get that stuff. I know you can't post links but are u allowed to pm them?
 
eform isn't sold any more but I think CEL sells a topical formestane, and its here at nutraplanet

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as far as the atd, I had my own raw powder, and mixed it into napalm :)
 
ahsswimmaster said:
That's a good point. So after I shower would I be able to add the tanner without eviscerate doing anything or should I wait a few days?
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Eviscerate will eat right through self-tanners like Alien Blood. However, you can get away with daily AFTER applying E and letting it dry completely.
 
i AM RESEARCHING Clenviscerate + Nicotine

i will call it CLENVISCERATE v2.... my theory in my head that if the nicotine can pass transdermally and the fat cell... it will increase CLENVISCERATEs effectiveness.

I know nictotine has a small MW and .162 and will pass easily. but will it work

Nicotine should have a mild DNP effect on the fat cell...forcing more fat to burned and making storage very hard...
 
IRONPOPE said:
i AM RESEARCHING Clenviscerate + Nicotine

i will call it CLENVISCERATE v2.... my theory in my head that if the nicotine can pass transdermally and the fat cell... it will increase CLENVISCERATEs effectiveness.

I know nictotine has a small MW and .162 and will pass easily. but will it work

Nicotine should have a mild DNP effect on the fat cell...forcing more fat to burned and making storage very hard...
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Yes, it will work VERY well.
 
i looked around for raws, but im guessing theres no easy access unless you extract it from something like a patch, correct?
 
tnubs said:
i looked around for raws, but im guessing theres no easy access unless you extract it from something like a patch, correct?
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Someone else will have to comment.
 
Rodja said:
You can extract it from the gums/lozenges. Playing with the raw would be VERY dangerous.
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would the nasal version straight up mixed with the transdermal be effective
and HOW effective... very little is out there on it used in this fashion
 
mcgeier said:
I can only get the clenbuterol in tab form. Can I seperate the clen from the fillers? If yes, how?
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You aren't looking well enough, then. Usually the topical application is easier to come by than the tabs; it'd be easier an easier approach, instead of bringing adv. chem into this.
 
I have both the Eviscerate and clen now. Neither came with a pump. The E is just a push open top like shampoo, and the clen came with a 3/ml dropper.

So how do I get the dosing right? What is the best way to do this without pumps?
 
jrw said:
I have both the Eviscerate and clen now. Neither came with a pump. The E is just a push open top like shampoo, and the clen came with a 3/ml dropper.

So how do I get the dosing right? What is the best way to do this without pumps?
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That 3/ml dropper is the right instrument. The clen is 200mcg/ml. That meaning there is 100mcg in .5ml. Each dash is 20mcg. Draw up in the dropper your desired amount of clen, then, voila.
 
DenDestroys said:
That 3/ml dropper is the right instrument. The clen is 200mcg/ml. That meaning there is 100mcg in .5ml. Each dash is 20mcg. Draw up in the dropper your desired amount of clen, then, voila.
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That seems like such a ridiculously small amount of clen compared to 3/ml of Eviscerate. Isnt the starting recommended like 40mcg twice a day? Just doesnt seem like much.
 
but that is systemic where this is targeted. only so much of your body gets hit with eviscerate, so do the math that way
 
jrw said:
That seems like such a ridiculously small amount of clen compared to 3/ml of Eviscerate. Isnt the starting recommended like 40mcg twice a day? Just doesnt seem like much.
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well the real role of EVIS is to allow the CLEN to easily sneak past the dermal layer and saturate the fat cells. (napalm would do the same just for the record)

I dosed the CLEN with the EVIS in the same manner of a standard Oral Clen cycle and got bad sides and severe burning.

That led me to beleive that the fat cells were saturated past the breaking point and the rest of the clen went systemic causing sides.

I just cant advise anyone to go higher than 40-50mcg twice a day based on my personal testing. CLEN is a dangerous chemical.
 
Will I be able to loose 1.5% Bf in around 8 days? I'll be doing E/C and eviscerate. My cals will be no more than 1500 per day with less than 20g carb except on refeed day. I'll be lifting and then cardio on rest day.

I'm gonna try clenvuscetate when I get back from Hawaii.
 
IRONPOPE said:
well the real role of EVIS is to allow the CLEN to easily sneak past the dermal layer and saturate the fat cells. (napalm would do the same just for the record)

I dosed the CLEN with the EVIS in the same manner of a standard Oral Clen cycle and got bad sides and severe burning.

That led me to beleive that the fat cells were saturated past the breaking point and the rest of the clen went systemic causing sides.

I just cant advise anyone to go higher than 40-50mcg twice a day based on my personal testing. CLEN is a dangerous chemical.
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Do you still add clen per application, or do you now use a bottle that has E and clen already mixed?
 
jrw said:
Do you still add clen per application, or do you now use a bottle that has E and clen already mixed?
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i add the clen per app....beacuse you can vary the amount of clen..until u find a good set point for your body. You may can only handle 20mcg per app at first...but feels good adding a little more later

Once you mix it...whatever the ratio is..thats what it is....
 
ahsswimmaster said:
Will I be able to loose 1.5% Bf in around 8 days? I'll be doing E/C and eviscerate. My cals will be no more than 1500 per day with less than 20g carb except on refeed day. I'll be lifting and then cardio on rest day.

I'm gonna try clenvuscetate when I get back from Hawaii.
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if your diet and workouts are 300 spartan level intense... Clenviscerate will get u there... i dont see a problem
 
I was pretty sure clenvuscetate would do the trick but I don't have enough time to wait for it to come inmail. Only like 8 days til I leave for Hawaii. 200mg/25mg 3x or 4x per day How many cals should ( more or less of the 1500 i'm eating now?) and then break p/f/c %.???

Sine it's only for 8 days I think i will be able to really push myself
 
How would clenviscerate work with something like H-drol? Would both still be effective, lean dry gains while targeting fat areas? Also, would something like alphaburn still be needed as the systemic, or would that be unneccessary?
 
jrw said:
How would clenviscerate work with something like H-drol? Would both still be effective, lean dry gains while targeting fat areas? Also, would something like alphaburn still be needed as the systemic, or would that be unneccessary?
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I think adding muscle at a fair clip...while at the same time burning fat at a fair clip is hard to pull off at the same time.... The body holds fat at higher priority than muscle in my opinion. That said.... an HDROL/CLENVISCERATE stack effects would be diet controlled.

1. dieting hard + HDROL/CLENEVISCERATE = NO muscle loss while burning a ton of fat

2. bulk eating for size = big muscles gains with small levels fat gain

water bloat may be a problem in some with this combo
 
IRONPOPE said:
I think adding muscle at a fair clip...while at the same time burning fat at a fair clip is hard to pull off at the same time....
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It's possible if planned right. A CKD with proper timing can have a great recomp effect. Adding AAS will definitely improve the results.
 
Would taking an ECAY stack simultaneously be a good systemic fat burner with clenviscerate? Or do Ephedrine and Clen use the same pathways, therefore ECAY would not be a good choice for to add.
 
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