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The Complete 8 week Fat Loss Stack

well technically your getting the CLA and green Tea for free. The original price of the DT is 49 bucks.

Have you taken any topical fat burners?

so if you can find cheaper than free anywhere let me know :) I mean obviously people arent going to be buying the Fat Loss Stack for just the CLA and green tea otherwise it would be cheaper.
 
fightbackhxc said:
well technically your getting the CLA and green Tea for free. The original price of the DT is 49 bucks.

Have you taken any topical fat burners?

so if you can find cheaper than free anywhere let me know :) I mean obviously people arent going to be buying the Fat Loss Stack for just the CLA and green tea otherwise it would be cheaper.
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Not to mention the green tea is organic and pesticide free, and the CLA has a nice isomer content.

The DermaTherm Target also seems to be working very well for people.
 
yes! cannot forget that. Pesticides are pesky :)
 
MrBigPR said:
Results speak for the product, just check out fightbackhxc's log.
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as if one log says it all, lol. Everyone must admit that many logs are not at all subjective and are basically paid for by supplement companies. So it is better to get a variety of info, not just go off of one log.

fightbackhxc said:
well technically your getting the CLA and green Tea for free. The original price of the DT is 49 bucks.

Have you taken any topical fat burners?

so if you can find cheaper than free anywhere let me know :) I mean obviously people arent going to be buying the Fat Loss Stack for just the CLA and green tea otherwise it would be cheaper.
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technically who cares about the original price of anything. we all know most supps sell for half the retail, and that many supps are junk. Not saying that about DT as I haven't tried it.. but the retail price is technically irrelevant
 
guyrelax said:
i dont think its that great of a deal. you can get cla and green tea cheaper elsewhere. and i personally did not see any results with cla. I also am not a fan of topical fat burners...
just my opinion
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What are your experiences with Topical fat burners and CLA?

Have you looked over the write-ups for our products? How were you using CLA, and at what dose?


Our CLA product contains specific isomer concentrations geared towards effect as well:


What is the cis-9, trans-11 and trans-10, cis-12 all about?

These are known as different CLA isomers. The c-9, trans-11 is the most abundant CLA isomer found in nature, while the trans-10, cis-12 appears to be the most metabolically active for improving body composition. However, it’s been found that supplementing with equal amounts of both CLA isomers produces the desired effects without any side effects. (28) Our CLA ethyl ester provides the ideal 50/50 mix of the c-9, trans-10 and trans-10, cis-12 isomer.
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guyrelax said:
as if one log says it all, lol. Everyone must admit that many logs are not at all subjective and are basically paid for by supplement companies. So it is better to get a variety of info, not just go off of one log.



technically who cares about the original price of anything. we all know most supps sell for half the retail, and that many supps are junk. Not saying that about DT as I haven't tried it.. but the retail price is technically irrelevant
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my log is unsponsored. I bought the DT myself. So I am not as bias as a sponsored log. I bought this product and decided to log it because if it sucked then other people would know.

Then why are you arguing price about CLA and Green Tea?
 


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This has become even better my friends...

Use the Coupon Code: 49FATLOSS and get this stack for only $49.95!!

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Trauma1 said:


Bumping this GREAT DEAL!! :wave2:


This has become even better my friends...

Use the Coupon Code: 49FATLOSS and get this stack for only $49.95!!

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You guys are going to clean out my bank account...even more...
 
Jordinator said:
I'm debating a $400 order soon... Gotta wait until I get paid though lol :O Should last me for a damn long time...
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If you have any questions about the product line, you know where to find me. I hope that our products help you to achieve your fitness goals! :)
 
Trauma1 said:
If you have any questions about the product line, you know where to find me. I hope that our products help you to achieve your fitness goals! :)
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Goin for the 1-Tren stack + Extra bottle of Sustain, Fat loss stack, BCAA, Creapure, Beta alanine kg of each. Should be good times...
 
Jordinator said:
I'll think about it. Depends on how my school is going and how busy I am at work. At the very least I'll give some before/after stats with a review.
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We would truly appreciate the feedback, bud!
 
simmons said:
Not to mention the green tea is organic and pesticide free, and the CLA has a nice isomer content.

The DermaTherm Target also seems to be working very well for people.
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Honestly, how long has it been out and how many logs are there?

You are totally overstating the success rate. For the love of God, let's try to keep some objectivity here. I'm not saying DT is good or bad, I'm just saying it's so new there's not much validity to someone who says that it's working well for people. And it wasn't even from a rep. What is this claim based on?

I feel this site suffers (compared to other sites) because far too many people buy into what reps say without challenging the info or even questioning their facts. Then they start parroting it which would bring a smile to any company reps face.

I haven't been here all that long but there are so many people hawking stuff all over the place I feel like I'm in a swap meet sometimes. There are some good reps here who give good advice, but collectively there's too much implicit product promotion in the forums (outside of the company promotions forum) which makes some people question the objectivity of the advice dispensed here.
 
Well I can say its worked well for me.
 
LAGear said:
Honestly, how long has it been out and how many logs are there?

You are totally overstating the success rate. For the love of God, let's try to keep some objectivity here. I'm not saying DT is good or bad, I'm just saying it's so new there's little point in someone who's not a rep saying that it's working well for people.

I feel this site suffers (compared to other sites) because far too many people buy into what reps say without challenging the info or even questioning their facts. Then they start parroting it which would bring a smile to any company reps face.

I haven't been here all that long and there are so many people hawking stuff all over the place I feel like I'm in a swap meet sometimes. There are some good reps here who give good advice, but collectively there's too much product promotion in the forums (outside of the company promotions forum) which makes some people question the objectivity of the advice dispensed here.
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I completely understand where you're coming from. However, I'm not developing my opinions from thin air.

My fiance used the original DermaTherm, and it produced some nice results. That being said, I am aware that Primordial has revamped the ingredient profile to make the product more target specific. The hormones have been removed, and the updated ingredient profile is pretty nice IMO. Not to mention, the new product only requires 2 pumps, rather than the 5 required by the old product.

Also, I've been watching a few logs (including one before the product was released) and everyone that I have seen thus far has had positive results from the product.

Like I said, I understand what you are saying, but this company produces some quality products IMO, and DermaTherm Target seems to be promising. :dunno:
 
LAGear said:
Honestly, how long has it been out and how many logs are there?

You are totally overstating the success rate. For the love of God, let's try to keep some objectivity here. I'm not saying DT is good or bad, I'm just saying it's so new there's not much validity to someone who says that it's working well for people. And it wasn't even from a rep. What is this claim based on?

I feel this site suffers (compared to other sites) because far too many people buy into what reps say without challenging the info or even questioning their facts. Then they start parroting it which would bring a smile to any company reps face.

I haven't been here all that long but there are so many people hawking stuff all over the place I feel like I'm in a swap meet sometimes. There are some good reps here who give good advice, but collectively there's too much implicit product promotion in the forums (outside of the company promotions forum) which makes some people question the objectivity of the advice dispensed here.
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I understand your views, LA. I'd like to think though that as a company Primordial Performance does a pretty good job of answering questions, providing studies, and demonstrating a solid working knowledge of our product line. I know that i personaly work hard to give you all articulate and informative responses to your product based questions on a daily basis. It can seem like products are "slung" around in threads at times, but this section (company promotion) is used to promote a sponsors' product line.

Product promotion is going to exist outside this section on AM as well. Not every member understands or follows the structured format to individual sections and frequently place varied questions around the board. There are many knowledgeable members/reps here on AM in general. I think as a whole, there is a good balance of veterans, intermediates, and novices in the mix.

There are logs beginning to roll in now with our new Dermatherm Target product. I've put together a consolidated log to help provide a good resource tool for people to view. It's a work in progress, so i'll continue to update it. There is already som pictures in there that provide some good initial anecdotal feedback. Check it out, here:

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If you have any questions yourself, i'd be glad to help you out. BTW - I hope your PCT goes well my friend. Keep me updated with that. :)
 


Bumping this GREAT DEAL!! :wave2:


Use the Coupon Code: 49FATLOSS and get this stack for only $49.95!!

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I hope my previous post didn't come across as a knock against PP. I haven't used any of their products (will probably try Dermacrine soon) but their reputation seems solid even if it feels like product promotion can go a little over the top every once in a while. And I don't think I've seen anything but SOLID advice from their reps, which I can't say about every company.

And I hope my post didn't come across as a knock against DT. I was just pointing out that it's too new to draw any conclusions about it.

I understand that product promotion is going to exist but it drives me nuts when there's a solid thread going (not in company promotions) and a rep pops in out of nowhere just to say OUR PRODUCT WOULD GO GREAT WITH THAT STACK! even when their product wasn't even mentioned prior to their post.

I appreciate your articulate and informative posts and hope you can appreciate that sometimes I'm going to question and challenge you (and others) when something you say doesn't sit right with me.

I think the consultative approach is more effective than the over the top approach. Especially somewhere like this where you've got a lot of noobs who are really uncertain about what to do and trying to learn; hitting them with a 2x4 doesn't help them and only makes them question the rep's objectivity.

We should drop this and let discussion bout the deal resume. I just wanted to clarify that my comments weren't necessarily directed and PP and I wasn't knocking PP or its products. :)
 
LAGear said:
I hope my previous post didn't come across as a knock against PP. I haven't used any of their products (will probably try Dermacrine soon) but their reputation seems solid even if it feels like product promotion can go a little over the top every once in a while. And I don't think I've seen anything but SOLID advice from their reps, which I can't say about every company.

And I hope my post didn't come across as a knock against DT. I was just pointing out that it's too new to draw any conclusions about it.

I understand that product promotion is going to exist but it drives me nuts when there's a solid thread going (not in company promotions) and a rep pops in out of nowhere just to say OUR PRODUCT WOULD GO GREAT WITH THAT STACK! even when their product wasn't even mentioned prior to their post.

I appreciate your articulate and informative posts and hope you can appreciate that sometimes I'm going to question and challenge you (and others) when something you say doesn't sit right with me.

I think the consultative approach is more effective than the over the top approach. Especially somewhere like this where you've got a lot of noobs who are really uncertain about what to do and trying to learn; hitting them with a 2x4 doesn't help them and only makes them question the rep's objectivity.

We should drop this and let discussion bout the deal resume. I just wanted to clarify that my comments weren't necessarily directed and PP and I wasn't knocking PP or its products. :)
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Not at all, buddy. :)

I know what you were trying to say, and that it wasn't directed at any company in particular. I enjoy your postings in what i've read, LA. You seem to be a smart guy that articulates well. I think you're a very good addition to AM, so welcome. :)

If any of you guys have questions about this stack, please feel free to post them up. :)
 
If you want I can give a totally un biased prospective based on my medical credentials (PharmD in Pharmacy). PP has given the public exactly what they need in products that deliver. Trauma has been so kind enough to put each product's log into a 1 page thread so you can see the results. Eric the founder has poured countless hours delivering write-ups that reflect what the product does. Nothing of their products are hyped; everything checks out ingredient wise and result wise. They use nothing but the finest, unadulterated and organic materials available in the world. I feel that the supplement industry should be told about a company who constantly delivers and strides everyday to make their products better than the day before.
 
MrBigPR said:
If you want I can give a totally un biased prospective based on my medical credentials (PharmD in Pharmacy). PP has given the public exactly what they need in products that deliver. Trauma has been so kind enough to put each product's log into a 1 page thread so you can see the results. Eric the founder has poured countless hours delivering write-ups that reflect what the product does. Nothing of their products are hyped; everything checks out ingredient wise and result wise. They use nothing but the finest, unadulterated and organic materials available in the world. I feel that the supplement industry should be told about a company who constantly delivers and strides everyday to make their products better than the day before.
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Thanks alot MrBig... Im glad you notice the countless hours spent... It is true!
 
BoneDaddy said:
I'm VERY interested in stacking this with the 1-T Tren stack/PCT stack. what do you7nguys think?
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I think overall it would work pretty well. The "Tren-like" compound in our 1-T Tren will demonstrate some pretty impressive thermogenic/recomp effects. Quite a few guys that are logging our 1-T Tren have noted that.

What's your overall goal?
 
Trauma1 said:
I think overall it would work pretty well. The "Tren-like" compound in our 1-T Tren will demonstrate some pretty impressive thermogenic/recomp effects. Quite a few guys that are logging our 1-T Tren have noted that.

What's your overall goal?
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Overall goal would be to drop some bf (the more the merrier) while stacking on some lean beef. I did a cycle of The One a few months back and got some nice recomp from it but I'm soooooooooo damn intrigued by the 1T Tren. I'm itching to jump on it and see what it can do.
 
BoneDaddy said:
Overall goal would be to drop some bf (the more the merrier) while stacking on some lean beef. I did a cycle of The One a few months back and got some nice recomp from it but I'm soooooooooo damn intrigued by the 1T Tren. I'm itching to jump on it and see what it can do.
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Well the stack you have outlined would deliver nicely, imo. If you choose to do this, keep us updated with your progress! :)
 
WARNING: You will get XTREMELY shredded bro! That stack will tear you up. My brother is logging 1-T Tren right now and hes already lost some BF and kept size and gained strength.
 
Gotta use the coupon code broseph: 49FATLOSS
 
Has anyone's girlfriend/wife used this? I'm thinking of grabbing one for my girl as she's looking to drop a few lbs also.
 
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