Natty T's Bodybuilding Log

natty texan said:
^^^thanks man, i'll look into it.


stoked is reversitrol btw...
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so stoked is reversitol just sold under a different name???ya man like i said I'm not the brightest bulb in the tree on this stuff but I was also finding info out for myself....:usa1:
 
andrew732 said:
Stoked is a combination of trans-reservatrol, icarrin, quercetin, and piperine.
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that's the more...in depth answer.


stoked is the only one i was looking into with reversatrol (i thought, but i think i'm wrong now)

and the only reason i was looking into it was for the reversatrol.
 
Today: Chest

Notes: I decided to use a technique tx lifter talked about in his log: STOP FRONT DELT PRESSING WHEN DOING CHEST EXERCISES
"Go get some 30-40lb dumbells & lay down on a flat bench but I only want you laying down with the top half of your back on the bench--your ass & your lower back will be off (the edge) of it, now lower the dumbells as deep as they can go & at the bottom drop your trunk (ass) as low as you can & raise your ribcage high (like you would do if you were doing a cross bench pullover)---now hold that position throughout the whole movement--& press the dumbells 10 times (& keep that ass down & sternum up-in that same position I told you to hold...on every rep down the bottom sink the dumbells as low as you can go for a deep 1 second pause before pressing...do not let your delts roll forward like every newbie does. A newbie presses & then flattens his chest & rolls his delts forward at the end of a press.

See how that feels? That's how you should be doing every single chest exercise--with that same exact feel. (I'm not suggesting lifting like that on everything--I'm trying to get you to know the difference between a chest presser & a front delt presser) so you personally adjust yourself (shoulders back & down, pinched shoulder blades, chest high, sternum high) on every chest exercise you do."

However, I used the half bench, on the Squat Cage, and used a Barbell. (it was fantastic)

The Workout:
Bench Press: (with only my upper back on the bench, the rest of my body was supported up by my legs) started with 45 just to see how it felt, went up to 135 for a warm up.

now i'm kinda...dumb/brave and i didn't want to lower the weight for this technique all that much so i threw 25's on and did 185 for 8 reps. let me say: very very good, I definitely felt like i was incorporating more of my chest. I then went up to 215 for 3 reps, then 225 for 2 sets of 4 reps, and back down to 215 for 4 reps.

Incline Bench:135 x 4 sets of 8

Skull Crushers: 80 lbs x 4 sets of 8 I wanted to do more, but there was noone who looked able to spot (and spot well) and i was struggling on the last reps with 80 so i stuck with it.

Side Raises: 40 lbs x 3 sets of 8 and one set of 10

Front raises: 40 lbs x 4 sets of 8

Bent over...side raises? (intention to hit rear delts) 30 lbs x 4 sets of 8

That was it.
Short and sweet.


I've still been going to the doc's and they're now saying they're unsure about my diagnosis...(which is really pissing me off, it's like saying you have cancer...but we're not sure if you really do or not)

however in light of this event, and my love for football, I'm semi cross training until I know what's going on.
 
Purely out of interest, what is your issue with transdermals? I can understad an issue with the pro hormones, but sustain should be fine even if some of it does rub off on someone else..
 
natty texan said:
Today: Chest

Notes: I decided to use a technique tx lifter talked about in his log: STOP FRONT DELT PRESSING WHEN DOING CHEST EXERCISES
"Go get some 30-40lb dumbells & lay down on a flat bench but I only want you laying down with the top half of your back on the bench--your ass & your lower back will be off (the edge) of it, now lower the dumbells as deep as they can go & at the bottom drop your trunk (ass) as low as you can & raise your ribcage high (like you would do if you were doing a cross bench pullover)---now hold that position throughout the whole movement--& press the dumbells 10 times (& keep that ass down & sternum up-in that same position I told you to hold...on every rep down the bottom sink the dumbells as low as you can go for a deep 1 second pause before pressing...do not let your delts roll forward like every newbie does. A newbie presses & then flattens his chest & rolls his delts forward at the end of a press.

See how that feels? That's how you should be doing every single chest exercise--with that same exact feel. (I'm not suggesting lifting like that on everything--I'm trying to get you to know the difference between a chest presser & a front delt presser) so you personally adjust yourself (shoulders back & down, pinched shoulder blades, chest high, sternum high) on every chest exercise you do."

However, I used the half bench, on the Squat Cage, and used a Barbell. (it was fantastic)

The Workout:
Bench Press: (with only my upper back on the bench, the rest of my body was supported up by my legs) started with 45 just to see how it felt, went up to 135 for a warm up.

now i'm kinda...dumb/brave and i didn't want to lower the weight for this technique all that much so i threw 25's on and did 185 for 8 reps. let me say: very very good, I definitely felt like i was incorporating more of my chest. I then went up to 215 for 3 reps, then 225 for 2 sets of 4 reps, and back down to 215 for 4 reps.

Incline Bench:135 x 4 sets of 8

Skull Crushers: 80 lbs x 4 sets of 8 I wanted to do more, but there was noone who looked able to spot (and spot well) and i was struggling on the last reps with 80 so i stuck with it.

Side Raises: 40 lbs x 3 sets of 8 and one set of 10

Front raises: 40 lbs x 4 sets of 8

Bent over...side raises? (intention to hit rear delts) 30 lbs x 4 sets of 8

That was it.
Short and sweet.


I've still been going to the doc's and they're now saying they're unsure about my diagnosis...(which is really pissing me off, it's like saying you have cancer...but we're not sure if you really do or not)

however in light of this event, and my love for football, I'm semi cross training until I know what's going on.
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Nice workout bro. Good to see you tearing it up!
 
Random181 said:
Purely out of interest, what is your issue with transdermals? I can understad an issue with the pro hormones, but sustain should be fine even if some of it does rub off on someone else..
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They're messy! LOL. I hate transdermals. Except for Napalm. :D
 
Random181 said:
Purely out of interest, what is your issue with transdermals? I can understad an issue with the pro hormones, but sustain should be fine even if some of it does rub off on someone else..
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exactly...they're messy...and i don't really want to take the time to rub myself down...and i live in texas, so i'm always freakin sweaty...
 
hey natty,

Go easy on the docs about your condition...chronic traumatic encephalopathy is, as are all brain injuries tough to diagnose properly without opening you up; and then sometimes it still doesn't answer the question. I know you are justified in being frustrated but who knows if 10 years down the road you look back and say this is the best thing that could have happened to you. As they say, things happen as they should.

Being in football shape is never a bad thing, either. With the weightlifting the main things you are missing from the fb fitness is the speed/explosive power which is always good to keep up on anyway. I can't wait to start running stairs again.
 
heywood said:
hey natty,

Go easy on the docs about your condition...chronic traumatic encephalopathy is, as are all brain injuries tough to diagnose properly without opening you up; and then sometimes it still doesn't answer the question. I know you are justified in being frustrated but who knows if 10 years down the road you look back and say this is the best thing that could have happened to you. As they say, things happen as they should.

Being in football shape is never a bad thing, either. With the weightlifting the main things you are missing from the fb fitness is the speed/explosive power which is always good to keep up on anyway. I can't wait to start running stairs again.
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i know. I've been pretty easy on them and i'm not upset with them, i'm just frustrated because right as i start accepting something and planning to go along with all that it entitles, it changes...
 
I'm not sure if it was the new form yesterday or the low volume with the heavy weight but my chest, tri's, and delts feel fantastic.

it's the good doms...the doms that make you want to live in the gym...not the painful ones that make you resemble 90 year old grandpa billy who's pinching nurse hiney in the nursing home...
 
natty texan said:
I'm not sure if it was the new form yesterday or the low volume with the heavy weight but my chest, tri's, and delts feel fantastic.

it's the good doms...the doms that make you want to live in the gym...not the painful ones that make you resemble 90 year old grandpa billy who's pinching nurse hiney in the nursing home...
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Thats great...I love the feeling of some quality DOMS :)
 
natty texan said:
I'm not sure if it was the new form yesterday or the low volume with the heavy weight but my chest, tri's, and delts feel fantastic.

it's the good doms...the doms that make you want to live in the gym...not the painful ones that make you resemble 90 year old grandpa billy who's pinching nurse hiney in the nursing home...
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It's most likely the extra force in the eccentric portion of the heavier lifts that got you sore. I loves me some Domsmestic Violence in the gym.
 
Today: Legs.


Box Squats. (again just a reminder, i have to use benches because the box at our gym only goes up to the bottom of my calves...it's more there as a step for short people to do pull ups i think...) 335x3 or 4 reps (i can't remember) x 2 sets. 315 x 4 reps (i know this one for sure) x 3 sets.

followed this up with a set of regular squats, axss to grass 225 lbs x 15 reps by one set.

Single Leg Calf Raises (on the machine) I wasn't feeling like loading the machine up and wondering around trying to find all the 35's (our gym has like 6 total...100's of 45's but no 35's) so i just set the machine weight at 300 and did 4 sets of 10 on each leg.

Reverse Hack Squats: 3 plates on each side by 2 sets of 8, 2 plates on each side by 2 sets of "explosive" 10

Lying Leg Curls 100 lbs machine weight x 4 sets of 8.

At the end of my workout after my shower, I tried to put on my boxers and I couldn't pull them up because my legs were swollen so i had to cut slits up the sides on both legs...
Again I'm following more of a football based routine. I've taken a variation of joe defranco's ws4sb's and put my own personal touches on it.

And finally...for all of ya'll who keep pm'ing about pic's i specifically borrowed one of my ex's phones that could email pictures and took these for ya'll. For some reason, I can't get photobucket to accept the url so ya'll will have to be happy with links.

Warning! I'm pudgy :(
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This I was getting flippin pissed off at the back pictures...I couldn't hit my back directly for money...This is by far, the highest B.F. I think i've had since my freshman year in highschool. Sitting around for a year and half will do that to you :(
 
alright i did it the long way...i saved them to the computer then uploaded from there.

Again I have the most fat i've had in years...it's embarrassing me right now actually....so much so I almost didn't post them up.

Front Flexed:
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Natty T-Stack (as of right now)


2 Continuous Cycles of Animal Stak (42 Days)
+
2 bottles (continuous) of Jungle Warfare (60 Days)
+
3 Bottles (continuous) of Sustain Alpha. (87 days) I'm doing more on this, so that when I come off everything else my body doesn't completely completely screw up. Hopefully with this it will only slightly screw up.

I'm planning on running 2 straight cycles of animal m-stak, starting on the last day of my animal stak cycle. Hopefully this will keep my body anabolic as it comes off the T-boosters. This total cycle will last 87 Days.

If ya'll have anything ya'll think should be added. (liver support stuff like that) please PM it to me.

I will continue my regular "essentials" through out.
Animal Flex
a preworkout (will be switching to jp8 when I run out of shock)
pure creatine mono
Omega 3's
3 Grams Vita C
a multi-v (i just get a store bought brand)
bcaa powder
taurine powder




? (any suggestions)
 
thanks guys. I've always been proud of my traps...they're just big cushions for the squat bar though ;)



I looked into dthc and I plan on running it some time. I'd have to take stak out to throw it in that stack though and I've gotten great results from stak in the past.
 
shaddow said:
Traps are HUGE, bro!! :scared:

Isn't JW hormonal?
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from what I've read it's nonhormonal

Pro-Hypertrophic Proprietary Matrix 250mg **
Proprietary Momortica Chirantilia Extract
Conjugated (-)3,4-divanillyl tetrahydrofuran, Aded (17-alkyl-4-delta-5a-dehydro-etiocholan-1,6-den-3-one)
Proprietary Cunjugated Coleonol Extract.
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Jungle Warfare™ F.A.Q's

1) What exactly is in Jungle Warfare™?

A: Jungle Warfare is a non-androgen non-hormone based pro-hypertrophic product we have been working to perfect for the past few years. Our goal was to combine herbal AR-agonist that have no hormonal activity with positive estrogen and free testosterone modulation. In short, when combined with proper diet and training, Jungle Warfare supports lean tissue in a major long term progressive way while disrespecting fat stores rudely as well. The goal was to design a non-androgenic matrix for increased myotrophic expression and lipolysis that did not create issues for athletes or enthusiast either ethically or legally. From the results we feel we did pretty well.

2) Jungle Warfare is a non-hormonal AR agonist. Does this mean that it will cause other unwanted androgenic effects?

A: No, not at all. There is nothing in Jungle Warfare™ that can aromatize to estrogens, nor are there any synthetic androgenic compounds in the matrix. Just because something potentially stimulates the AR (Androgen Receptor) does not mean it will send an androgenic signal or cause the negative side effects that synthetic androgens can have. Our experience from long term testing has been that Jungle Warfare™ actually supports the HPTA, rather than suppresses it like hormones do. This in itself is a big step in potential for performance optimization with the main focus on health first through natural means.
Of course, it seems plausible to at least consider that a severe over dose, employed long term, may possibly inhibit FSH activity simply due to AR stimulation. But this would be an intake level beyond bizarre if it is possible at all. After all, you can really stimulate some serious gyno and have raisin nuts if you drink enough soy milk.
The goal is to support, not replace endogenous hormones, in a manner that favors lean mass and/or its performance capacity. Add to this hypertrophic activity with a favorable natural estrogen to androgen ratio and you have the makings of some interesting potentials. We certainly have been satisfied with the results users have shared.
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If I'm wrong please say something!
 
Thought it USED to be hormonal, but I could be wrong. If I'm not mistaken, it went through a re-formulation.
 
oh so now your willing to use transdermals! :P j/k natty, pics look good man its obvious you got some serious muscle there bro, Im not up on natural stacks (Dont really see the point but everyone to their own) so I cant comment on your stack.
 
yeah, i looked into sustain on your suggestion R-181. (forgot to rep you so repping now) I realized if I apply it at night, and set a box fan on me i should be able to sleep the night without sweating. (hopefully)


*off topic* i'm not 100% sure but in the uk hormones are legal for personal use right??
 
Today: Back


T-Bar Rows: 3 plates+ 25 for 2 sets of 8| 3 plates + a 10 for one set of 8| 3 plates alone for 1 set of 8

D.B. Curls: 60's for 2 sets of 8| 55's for 1 set of 8| 45's for an extremely slow set (count of 10 on the way down) of 8|

Lat Pulldowns: 120 lbs (i think this is up 20 from two weeks ago :D ) for 4 sets of 8

Bent over rows overhand grip 135 x 4 sets of 8 with 10 seconds rest between each set.


Some of ya'll have asked for leg pics so let me try to get some on.
 
Yes all AAS are legal in the UK, providing you import less than 3 months worth for personell use. I already have a lab ready for about 2~3 years time when I can hop on some test and some deca and maybe some D-bol and well you get the idea! :D

edit: While were on the subject of laws, is it not legal to import medecine for personell use in the US? I see that you guys are often using research chems, I personally get all my stuff from an online pharmacy :)
 
Random181 said:
Yes all AAS are legal in the UK, providing you import less than 3 months worth for personell use. I already have a lab ready for about 2~3 years time when I can hop on some test and some deca and maybe some D-bol and well you get the idea! :D

edit: While were on the subject of laws, is it not legal to import medecine for personell use in the US? I see that you guys are often using research chems, I personally get all my stuff from an online pharmacy :)
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no...you have to have a prescription and fill it at a local pharmacy (usually at grocery stores)


i'd be worried ordering from an online company...that's basically how they got a lot of baseball players...


so you have a lab set up to make your own stuff?
 
I have heard the JW works decent, but Natty if you aren't willing to risk a possible issue of non natural then I would just play safe than sorry, unless their is a lab test that shows only strictly the proposed ingredients....

Not sure, wait to hear what others have to say first though.
 
i wonder why aas are legal in the uk????? propaganda to let the public ruin their health? jk!

NATTY T, I saw bloodwork on this one guys log who ran JW, before the stack he was average t levels. After he was mid 100s, wich is pretty low! But that log was about a year old i think.
 
Nice workouts natty keep it up bro...I gotta get home to take a look at those pics..i will do that later tonight...I wanna see these traps hahahaah (no homo) though....LOL:006::usa1:
 
okay JW is out.


any suggestions for it's replacement? (t-911 and dthc are out, their ingrediants either interfere or are already included with animal stak and sustain)
 
prime.


and the winner is mass fx (for now)

so

new cycle:
42 days on animal stak
+
60 days on mass fx
+
87 days on sustain alpha

as soon as my 42 days of animal stak ends i'll be going on 42 days of animal m-stak. Then entire cycle will last an estimated 87 days. however i will probably include a "come-off" period for coming off sustain at the very end where i gradually reduce the amount of pumps.
 
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